Question go never Trumpers (Page 2): :sm09: :sm09: :sm09: :sm09: :sm09: :sm09: Good morning wolf...

bggamers Loc: georgia

Lonewolf wrote:

I'm hopeing they screw Bernie out of the nomination I won't vote for him ,Ill write in my dogs name she has a big heart and clean paws.

Good morning wolf

bggamers Loc: georgia

Kevyn wrote:

If Bernie is elected his policies will be watered ... (show quote)

as far as border Kev if the stick in the mud dems would cooperate would have a good start. A wall is needed because of how many miles are open on our border.Its to far with to many miles it stretches to far to just have sensors sorry just not possible

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Kevyn wrote:

If Bernie is elected his policies will be watered ... (show quote)

There are just to many points in your post to debunk.
I'm curious about one...."minimum wage to living wage".

Currently minimum wage is around $12.00

How much is "living wage"?

I looked up nationwide averages

Internet, cable $132.
Trash $30
Water. $60
Electric $135
Car payment $532 (according to Experian)
Auto insurance $122.
Fuel/maintenance $430 (CNN)
Cell phone $114
Clothing $161
Food $345 (adult, less for a senior)
Mortgage payment $1029
Home insurance $70
Home/yard maintenance $100.
Entertainment $200.
Average Dental/Prescription/medical $395.
Personal hygiene (tooth paste/shampoo ect)/hair cuts $76.

Does "living wage" include cost of hobbies...wood working, dirt bike, snow skiing, fishing...?

How I arrived at "average monthly cost, Google. Some averages were from 2010-2020. Granted people can shop and save. Cost may be higher or lower depending on which state they live, their age, live rural....using a nationwide average is fair for this conversation.

If everyone on minimum wage went to "living wage" wouldn't they also have to pay $24. For a McDonald's lunch or "$75 for a pizza
All goods and services that rely on minimum wage would have huge price increases while auto's, homes would increase by there normal drivers.

The point, wouldn't the "living wage need to increase in order to keep up with "wage inflation "?

Seattle did this and I personally watched water front and near the water, established landmark businesses and restaurants, specialty shops drop like flys. Out of business because people are not willing to pay the "wage inflation " prices. Dozens of businesses went out in just a 10 block long by 4 block deep area. The greater Seattle area lost hundreds of businesses and now when driving by one sees vacancy signs, empty buildings everywhere.

Living wage regardless of the argument cannot sustain itself.

It's just math......

Jack

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

JFlorio wrote:

Unfortunately I believe you are correct. Which means these people are all about party above country.

The D party elites stole the people's choice and say in the matter when they went to super delegates. No matter who wins, the party tells the super delegates how to vote. This will be the second time the party has robbed Bernie. Even Bernie's supporters are working and paid for by the party to make him look worse than he would on his own. It's how the swamp rolls. For example SARS...2004, AVIAN...2008, SWINE...2010, MERS...2012, EBOLA... 2014, ZIKA...2016, EBOLA...2018, CORONA...2020. Coincidences? I don't think so. What're a few thousand dead people to the party of death and anti-God?

PeterS

JFlorio wrote:

I’ve heard a number of Democrats on the news say Bernie’s policies would be a disaster for America. Yet, they say if push comes to shove they’d vote for him over Trump. I get it somewhat. My question is; If you believe Bernie’s policies detrimental to America, but will vote for him anyway, who will you vote for down ballot?

Because Bernies policies will never be put into place. He is going to have to find a majority and it just isn't there. So he will have to make compromises--hopefully first reducing our trillion a year in new debt--and if he can balance the budget then he can talk about what he may want to do. That will take years though and it will be well into his second term, if he has one, before he could possibly get any of his policies through...

PeterS

plain logic wrote:

No brainer... they are straight line liberal, they will go Democrat to hell with Trump. That's it.

That's part of it yes. But Bernie can't do anything without a majority and he will never get one. The Democratic party isn't the party of Democratic Socialism regardless of what you cons think. Bernie isn't a danger while Trump and his party of minions who can't vote against him very much is...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

PeterS wrote:

Because Bernies policies will never be put into place. He is going to have to find a majority and it just isn't there. So he will have to make compromises--hopefully first reducing our trillion a year in new debt--and if he can balance the budget then he can talk about what he may want to do. That will take years though and it will be well into his second term, if he has one, before he could possibly get any of his policies through...

LOL! Are you dumb , delusional or both. have you seen Bernie's proposals? Or most Democrats for that matter? the Republicans are bad enough on spending but Democrats are republicans squared.

PeterS

JFlorio wrote:

LOL! Are you dumb , delusional or both. have you seen Bernie's proposals? Or most Democrats for that matter? the Republicans are bad enough on spending but Democrats are republicans squared.

Yes, I've seen Bernie's proposals but it's the house and senate that has to make them real and I doubt seriously he will find the necessary majority in either.

And as hard as you people are working to make it one ours is not a Monarchy or dictatorship. It takes a majority in both the house in the senate for a president's bill to pass and if he can't achieve one there is no way for his bill to become law...NONE! Now, where do you see a majority in both the house and senate that will be necessary for Bernie to get what he wants? Until that develops why don't you leave the ad hominem attack till later as it currently makes you look the fool...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

PeterS wrote:

Yes, I've seen Bernie's proposals but it's the hou... (show quote)

A better question is where do you see Democrats that don't support expansion of government?

Kazudy

JFlorio wrote:

I’ve heard a number of Democrats on the news say Bernie’s policies would be a disaster for America. Yet, they say if push comes to shove they’d vote for him over Trump. I get it somewhat. My question is; If you believe Bernie’s policies detrimental to America, but will vote for him anyway, who will you vote for down ballot?

They are already lining up the super delegates to remove Bernie, but many of Bernie supporters said that if Bernie is cheated out of the nomination AGAIN, they will vote for President Trump. Sooo l guess 4 more years in the horizon. Isn’t that great!

Gatsby

PeterS wrote:

Because Bernies policies will never be put into place. He is going to have to find a majority and it just isn't there. So he will have to make compromises--hopefully first reducing our trillion a year in new debt--and if he can balance the budget then he can talk about what he may want to do. That will take years though and it will be well into his second term, if he has one, before he could possibly get any of his policies through...

What you just described has long been known as a "Snake Oil Salesman", and you're correct.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Gatsby wrote:

What you just described has long been known as a "Snake Oil Salesman", and you're correct.

When Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination by the DNC, he’ll go 3rd Party.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

amadjuster wrote:

When Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination by the DNC, he’ll go 3rd Party.

His followers will go nuts. Well, even more nuts. Riots in Milwaukee.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

JFlorio wrote:

His followers will go nuts. Well, even more nuts. Riots in Milwaukee.

Getting some CBD laced popcorn!

Big Kahuna

Lonewolf wrote:

I'm hopeing they screw Bernie out of the nomination I won't vote for him ,Ill write in my dogs name she has a big heart and clean paws.

Does she also vomit when she hears the name, BERNIE? Ovommit still makes us patriots puke when we hear him or see him.