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Feb 22, 2020 16:30:35   #
truthiness
 

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Sanders disavowed that Russian help as opposed to trump who did not disavow and who in the past has requested it ("Russia, if you are listening...").

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Feb 22, 2020 16:30:55   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
permafrost wrote:
I may have messed up my post.. whatever I did say, the comment should have been that Bernie is considered the most easily promoted and yet easy to beat.. A/c mostly because he has made a not so good explanation of how his programs are cost effective..

So the nut and bolts is that Russia would like to have trump run against Bernie and they would get 4 more years of their own favorite, easy to control lackey...

Sorry if my OP was poor.. if I stay around a while maybe I will do better..
I may have messed up my post.. whatever I did say,... (show quote)


Here's the real winner and Kevyn's choice!!



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Feb 22, 2020 16:35:16   #
truthiness
 
padremike wrote:
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God)."

Do you find within the Oath any mention of the country. You do, however, read allegiance to the Constitution and there amidst it also stands your President, the one you savage because you're governed by blind hatred. Once you take this oath when is the expiration date? Why do Conservaties understand you Progressives are a domestic enemy; a cancer that if left to grow will kill the host?

You claim the country needs real Americans and I would agree. You may be native born but you are not a native son. Your progressive philosophy and agenda cannot be reconciled as anything except destructive to bodies, souls and nations. You're so consumed and overpowered by evil you turn everything good, sacred and pure into filth. And, if you truly believe the nonsense you posted above then you're also not too bright.

Other than those things, have a nice day.
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or ... (show quote)

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Key phrase.."according to the regulations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice."
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-orders-3332819

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Feb 22, 2020 16:36:56   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
amadjuster wrote:
Here's the real winner and Kevyn's choice!!



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Feb 22, 2020 16:39:10   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
truthiness wrote:
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Sanders disavowed that Russian help as opposed to trump who did not disavow and who in the past has requested it ("Russia, if you are listening...").
OMG, not this shit again. When your brain train crashed, how far off the rails did it go?



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Feb 22, 2020 16:52:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God)."

Do you find within the Oath any mention of the country. You do, however, read allegiance to the Constitution and there amidst it also stands your President, the one you savage because you're governed by blind hatred. Once you take this oath when is the expiration date? Why do Conservaties understand you Progressives are a domestic enemy; a cancer that if left to grow will kill the host?

You claim the country needs real Americans and I would agree. You may be native born but you are not a native son. Your progressive philosophy and agenda cannot be reconciled as anything except destructive to bodies, souls and nations. You're so consumed and overpowered by evil you turn everything good, sacred and pure into filth. And, if you truly believe the nonsense you posted above then you're also not too bright.

Other than those things, have a nice day.
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or ... (show quote)




I have no blind hate... I do have a lot of very focused disdain for the orange POS that you in fact helped to place in the office of the POTUS... you are part of the fault for the failure of our country.. and should be held to account.. but you never will..

And being a right winger.. you left out the part of the oath that you do not like..

and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Via the UCMJ, unlawful order from the pres or from anyone can be challenged if they do not follow the constitution..

But this dose not address the subject at hand..

the orange infection has this need to have all his boot lickers flatter him and never ever be critical of his most whimsical comment, let alone the spur of the moment policy or infraction of the law..

So now we have a result that while the gutless republicans say in your face that yes he violated the law, but darn, just do not think he should be removed from office..

Now he has found he can indeed do any darn thing he wants with no down side until he is out of office.. so the first item on the agenda is to make the DOJ nothing but his own group of yes men and law be damned..

What next?? considering that when out of office he will be indicted, his lust for the office knows no limit..
So, if he is reelected and can stay alive longer then 4 years, he will want to change the term limits law so he, like Kim, Putin and the China leader can be in power for life..

Then you rant about real Americans.. on lord.. while you back, loudly support the distribution of our remaining American values and call it an accomplishment to give all the power and wealthy to the 5% and himself. you show total disdain for what the founder desired this country to become.. the road which made us the greatest nation in the world has been reduced to the gavel left over from the rubble left from the turning in the 80s that transferred the wealth from the middle/working class to the very wealthy and has no sign of stopping..

You keep speaking the word "evil" never seeming to have a clue that evil is orange and sitting in the oval office..

We have nothing good at all coming from this administration.. for anyone but himself. from simply grade school insults to international miscalculations.. the pay out will be long and hard to recover from.

Yes, I am a real American because I have concern and hope for all Americans not just the ones gifted by wealth and power.. But the real Americans, those are the ones who made this a great nation and now are on the way to endless repression by the greedy policy of those you helped put in charge..



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Feb 22, 2020 17:11:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
truthiness wrote:
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Sanders disavowed that Russian help as opposed to trump who did not disavow and who in the past has requested it ("Russia, if you are listening...").


What difference does that make, especially if Russia isn't actually trying to help anyone?

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Feb 22, 2020 17:12:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
OMG, not this shit again. When your brain train crashed, how far off the rails did it go?


Somehow the Trump haters think that was an official call for help from Russia. LOLOLOLOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Feb 22, 2020 17:13:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
I have no blind hate... I do have a lot of very focused disdain for the orange POS that you in fact helped to place in the office of the POTUS... you are part of the fault for the failure of our country.. and should be held to account.. but you never will..

And being a right winger.. you left out the part of the oath that you do not like..

and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Via the UCMJ, unlawful order from the pres or from anyone can be challenged if they do not follow the constitution..

But this dose not address the subject at hand..

the orange infection has this need to have all his boot lickers flatter him and never ever be critical of his most whimsical comment, let alone the spur of the moment policy or infraction of the law..

So now we have a result that while the gutless republicans say in your face that yes he violated the law, but darn, just do not think he should be removed from office..

Now he has found he can indeed do any darn thing he wants with no down side until he is out of office.. so the first item on the agenda is to make the DOJ nothing but his own group of yes men and law be damned..

What next?? considering that when out of office he will be indicted, his lust for the office knows no limit..
So, if he is reelected and can stay alive longer then 4 years, he will want to change the term limits law so he, like Kim, Putin and the China leader can be in power for life..

Then you rant about real Americans.. on lord.. while you back, loudly support the distribution of our remaining American values and call it an accomplishment to give all the power and wealthy to the 5% and himself. you show total disdain for what the founder desired this country to become.. the road which made us the greatest nation in the world has been reduced to the gavel left over from the rubble left from the turning in the 80s that transferred the wealth from the middle/working class to the very wealthy and has no sign of stopping..

You keep speaking the word "evil" never seeming to have a clue that evil is orange and sitting in the oval office..

We have nothing good at all coming from this administration.. for anyone but himself. from simply grade school insults to international miscalculations.. the pay out will be long and hard to recover from.

Yes, I am a real American because I have concern and hope for all Americans not just the ones gifted by wealth and power.. But the real Americans, those are the ones who made this a great nation and now are on the way to endless repression by the greedy policy of those you helped put in charge..
I have no blind hate... I do have a lot of very fo... (show quote)


What "unlawful" order was given to anyone????

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Feb 22, 2020 17:15:33   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
I may have messed up my post.. whatever I did say, the comment should have been that Bernie is considered the most easily promoted and yet easy to beat.. A/c mostly because he has made a not so good explanation of how his programs are cost effective..

So the nut and bolts is that Russia would like to have trump run against Bernie and they would get 4 more years of their own favorite, easy to control lackey...

Sorry if my OP was poor.. if I stay around a while maybe I will do better..
I may have messed up my post.. whatever I did say,... (show quote)


Beautiful picture but how come you are so positive Russia wants Mr. Trump running against the Socialist nut case? If you Progressived weren't so irrationally focused on hating Mr.Trump and being thoroughly lobotomized by fake, lying, and subversive news, you'd understand Russia does not want Mr. Trump reelected. He is not in their best interest. They want another "flexible" president they can sucker just like they've made suckers out of every Progressive who is convinced the president is a Russian Bot.The Russians are successful in using the Progressives hatred of Mr. Trump to dismantle our Republic. The only weapons they're using are a computer, fake news, unfounded suspicions, fabricated hatred and fifty cents for an ice cold Coke as they relax and watch our internal destructive conflict unravel. You better face up to it sometime. Progressives are doing exactly what the old USSR said was necessary to destroy America from the inside. It's not Trump, it's you!

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Feb 22, 2020 17:26:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What "unlawful" order was given to anyone????



You cannot seem to grasp much today... did you have a long night on friday??

think harder.. I never said an unlawful order was given i was using that as a step to show the oath is not to the man but to the office and country..

I suppose that a good case could be made for the policies which damage the Country as being unlawful, but in the code they are concerned with military cases only..

By the way.. when trump gave the first order to attack Iran and it was halted.. did you ever wonder why and how?

Have you paid the least bit of attention at the resistance by the high ranking military to the various problems of late in the ME??

the tossing of the Kurd to Turkey, the inflow of Russia to occupy our bases.. the maintaining of the Saudi and the war on Yemen, the refusal to recognize the Iraq vote to remove the US out of their country..

These issues between the prez and the military will not be very public but that are in play each day.. the military does not like trump any more than the rest of the real people..

Just a reminder
Just a reminder...

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Feb 22, 2020 17:42:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
Beautiful picture but how come you are so positive Russia wants Mr. Trump running against the Socialist nut case? If you Progressived weren't so irrationally focused on hating Mr.Trump and being thoroughly lobotomized by fake, lying, and subversive news, you'd understand Russia does not want Mr. Trump reelected. He is not in their best interest. They want another "flexible" president they can sucker just like they've made suckers out of every Progressive who is convinced the president is a Russian Bot.The Russians are successful in using the Progressives hatred of Mr. Trump to dismantle our Republic. The only weapons they're using are a computer, fake news, unfounded suspicions, fabricated hatred and fifty cents for an ice cold Coke as they relax and watch our internal destructive conflict unravel. You better face up to it sometime. Progressives are doing exactly what the old USSR said was necessary to destroy America from the inside. It's not Trump, it's you!
Beautiful picture but how come you are so positive... (show quote)




Mike, is it not logical?

I grew up in the same time frame as you.. I absorbed the "rather be dead then red" slogans just as much as every kid..My reflex is that socialism leads to communism and that is evil.. and also I see, truly, the Russians as the home of this evil.
But to the point.. I contend that most Americans see this in the same knee jerk fashion that I do.. so a person running as a self described socialist, even when he defines it to clearly separate himself from the impacted image I grew up with will get fewer votes from the few who are undecided and that will be a major weakness .. I do not think Bernie could win without a great struggle. and the Orange Russians seem to agree with my logic..

I can agree with you that Russia also truly wants to foster even more division in our country. they would love that..

but trump has been very good to them, If reelected, he would have no restraints as a one term and things like his giving up on the removal of the two location would not be altered.. His bill has not been paid in full to Putin and I bet never will so without any limit to what trump will be promoting, we will see many more gift to Russia like their position in the ME. the removal of any remaining sanctions. economic perks ..

The cooperation with Putin is one of trump gifts to Russia and do not twist it another way. what the alt-right media says is only a promotion and is not real, in spite of what the orange voice has told you..

real Minnesota reforestation project at work..
real Minnesota reforestation project at work.....

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Feb 22, 2020 17:53:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
You cannot seem to grasp much today... did you have a long night on friday??

think harder.. I never said an unlawful order was given i was using that as a step to show the oath is not to the man but to the office and country..

I suppose that a good case could be made for the policies which damage the Country as being unlawful, but in the code they are concerned with military cases only..

By the way.. when trump gave the first order to attack Iran and it was halted.. did you ever wonder why and how?

Have you paid the least bit of attention at the resistance by the high ranking military to the various problems of late in the ME??

the tossing of the Kurd to Turkey, the inflow of Russia to occupy our bases.. the maintaining of the Saudi and the war on Yemen, the refusal to recognize the Iraq vote to remove the US out of their country..

These issues between the prez and the military will not be very public but that are in play each day.. the military does not like trump any more than the rest of the real people..
You cannot seem to grasp much today... did you hav... (show quote)


"Via the UCMJ, unlawful order from the pres or from anyone can be challenged if they do not follow the constitution.."

I assumed you were referring to what has been claimed as an unlawful order give by Trump/claimed by Vindman.

As for the rest, you've been out too long to have a feel for what is going on. I am not "out." I will tell you that Trump hears the recommendations of the "generals" but in no way will automatically follow their recommendations. Thsi is not taken well by many on many levels but, Trump takes his commander in chief role seriously. And he is not adverse to emphasizing his authority over them.

If Trump says he decided to refrain from a planned attack, he did it because he decided to refrain. Simple as that. Which attack are you referring to. I don't recall any planned attack on Iran. The Iranian "general" was killed in Baghdad. It was an attack on a terrorist, not Iran. What are you implying? I'm sure it's BS but go ahead and lets hear it.

And you are dead wrong about the military "not liking" Trump. LOL!

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Feb 22, 2020 17:55:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike, is it not logical?

I grew up in the same time frame as you.. I absorbed the "rather be dead then red" slogans just as much as every kid..My reflex is that socialism leads to communism and that is evil.. and also I see, truly, the Russians as the home of this evil.
But to the point.. I contend that most Americans see this in the same knee jerk fashion that I do.. so a person running as a self described socialist, even when he defines it to clearly separate himself from the impacted image I grew up with will get fewer votes from the few who are undecided and that will be a major weakness .. I do not think Bernie could win without a great struggle. and the Orange Russians seem to agree with my logic..

I can agree with you that Russia also truly wants to foster even more division in our country. they would love that..

but trump has been very good to them, If reelected, he would have no restraints as a one term and things like his giving up on the removal of the two location would not be altered.. His bill has not been paid in full to Putin and I bet never will so without any limit to what trump will be promoting, we will see many more gift to Russia like their position in the ME. the removal of any remaining sanctions. economic perks ..

The cooperation with Putin is one of trump gifts to Russia and do not twist it another way. what the alt-right media says is only a promotion and is not real, in spite of what the orange voice has told you..
Mike, is it not logical? br br I grew up in the ... (show quote)


You just can't admit that the "Russians" are not meddling in our election for disruption or any other reason. That is tom foolery. That is a myth the DNC has put in place. Today's democrats are the most corrupt in the history of our country.

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Feb 22, 2020 18:32:54   #
waltmoreno
 
padremike wrote:
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God)."

Do you find within the Oath any mention of the country. You do, however, read allegiance to the Constitution and there amidst it also stands your President, the one you savage because you're governed by blind hatred. Once you take this oath when is the expiration date? Why do Conservaties understand you Progressives are a domestic enemy; a cancer that if left to grow will kill the host?

You claim the country needs real Americans and I would agree. You may be native born but you are not a native son. Your progressive philosophy and agenda cannot be reconciled as anything except destructive to bodies, souls and nations. You're so consumed and overpowered by evil you turn everything good, sacred and pure into filth. And, if you truly believe the nonsense you posted above then you're also not too bright.

Other than those things, have a nice day.
I,(state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or ... (show quote)


Bingo!!! Permie believes that each and every bureaucratic underling under the President doesn’t have to follow the president’s directives! Wrong!!!
They swear to follow the constitution AND the president!!!
If they wanna follow whatever drumbeat they hear, they’re free to run for President and AFTER winning it, they can follow whatever drumbeat they hear.

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