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Feb 22, 2020 10:24:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Accusing Russia of once again helping Trump get elected is a negative for the Trump campaign, although I doubt he will lose a single supporter over it. But the point is, it's a negative in the eyes of Trump haters and democrats and they latch onto it to continually mount their efforts to remove him. But now, US intel, for what it's worth, are reporting that Russians are now helping Bernie Sanders. If it's a negative for Trump it MUST be a negative for Sanders.

So the question is, who doesn't like Sanders? Well that is simple; the DNC doesn't like Bernie and we have all predicted that the DNC would do something to stop his nomination.

It seems obvious to me; Trump haters and democrats hate Trump thus we have Russian interference and collusion. Democrats and the DNC don't like Bernie and thus we have new Russian interference and potential accusations of collusion.

Could it have always been the democrats and not the Russians at all? I haven't trusted US intel for a while now, nor the FBI and CIA for that matter and we know the CIA and FBI worked to help Obama/Clinton.

The news of Russia helping Sanders comes from our intel, but so also did the news of Russia helping Trump; well, them and Mueller. The DNC says they can do what ever they want. I'm thinking they control the US intel and and the very source of anything about Russia interfering in our elections. And now, they are going after Bernie. Corruption seekers have to admire the gall, for lack of a better word, of the DNC but has the DNC now over played their hand?? The Russians have no reason to try to help Bernie. But the DNC has every reason to want the voters to think Bernie is being helped by Russia.

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Feb 22, 2020 10:28:44   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Accusing Russia of once again helping Trump get elected is a negative for the Trump campaign, although I doubt he will lose a single supporter over it. But the point is, it's a negative in the eyes of Trump haters and democrats and they latch onto it to continually mount their efforts to remove him. But now, US intel, for what it's worth, are reporting that Russians are now helping Bernie Sanders. If it's a negative for Trump it MUST be a negative for Sanders.

So the question is, who doesn't like Sanders? Well that is simple; the DNC doesn't like Bernie and we have all predicted that the DNC would do something to stop his nomination.

It seems obvious to me; Trump haters and democrats hate Trump thus we have Russian interference and collusion. Democrats and the DNC don't like Bernie and thus we have new Russian interference and potential accusations of collusion.

Could it have always been the democrats and not the Russians at all? I haven't trusted US intel for a while now, nor the FBI and CIA for that matter and we know the CIA and FBI worked to help Obama/Clinton.

The news of Russia helping Sanders comes from our intel, but so also did the news of Russia helping Trump; well, them and Mueller. The DNC says they can do what ever they want. I'm thinking they control the US intel and and the very source of anything about Russia interfering in our elections. And now, they are going after Bernie. Corruption seekers have to admire the gall, for lack of a better word, of the DNC but has the DNC now over played their hand?? The Russians have no reason to try to help Bernie. But the DNC has every reason to want the voters to think Bernie is being helped by Russia.
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The big difference is that Sanders very publicly attacked Russian interference in our elections while Putins idiot Pumpkinfuhrer denies and sadly encourages it. It is indisputable that Russian interference has and continues to attack our elections and campaigns, how can anyone be against stopping it and punishing the Russians?

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Feb 22, 2020 10:37:16   #
RRRoger
 
The corrupt Democrat Establishment Elite are drowning and clutching at strays.
I hope they are all voted out of office.
Even RINOs are better because at least they vote for Constitutional Judges.
But, we need to Primary them out too and replace them with actual Public Servants.

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Feb 22, 2020 10:44:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
The big difference is that Sanders very publicly attacked Russian interference in our elections while Putins idiot Pumpkinfuhrer denies and sadly encourages it. It is indisputable that Russian interference has and continues to attack our elections and campaigns, how can anyone be against stopping it and punishing the Russians?


Of all people, Trump is the one who can say with confidence that Russia didn't help him win in 2016 and for sure he didn't collude with them. Trump knows what many of us do; Russia did not interfere/hack or what ever. It was businesses looking to make a buck. The DNC is dictating US Intel now, in my opinion. Trump knows it too so he scoffs at efforts to "stop" Russia but, in reality, Trump is the leader of the groups who are fighting against Russian interference. Bernie denounces Russian interference but has done nothing to stop it.

We KNOW that hackers can make their hacks appear to come from anywhere. We KNOW that the interwaves are open and can allow anyone to get online and do what was done in 2016; meme's, bot's etc.

Your support of Sanders "denouncing" of Russian interference is not surprising, but people will apply the same standard or harsher to him and will stray from supporting him, or at least that is what the DNC thinks.

You claim Trump discourages efforts to stop Russia from interfering and yet he and his administration are the very ones who are working to stop it. What you need to consider is that those groups, namely the FBI and CIA, are most likely under DNC control. They use "Russia" to politically undermine those they oppose; Trump and now, Bernie Sanders, one of your own.

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Feb 22, 2020 10:45:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RRRoger wrote:
The corrupt Democrat Establishment Elite are drowning and clutching at strays.
I hope they are all voted out of office.
Even RINOs are better because at least they vote for Constitutional Judges.
But, we need to Primary them out too and replace them with actual Public Servants.


That becomes very difficult when virtually all information sources for the US citizens is tainted with false information; propaganda.

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Feb 22, 2020 10:57:12   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Accusing Russia of once again helping Trump get elected is a negative for the Trump campaign, although I doubt he will lose a single supporter over it. But the point is, it's a negative in the eyes of Trump haters and democrats and they latch onto it to continually mount their efforts to remove him. But now, US intel, for what it's worth, are reporting that Russians are now helping Bernie Sanders. If it's a negative for Trump it MUST be a negative for Sanders.

So the question is, who doesn't like Sanders? Well that is simple; the DNC doesn't like Bernie and we have all predicted that the DNC would do something to stop his nomination.

It seems obvious to me; Trump haters and democrats hate Trump thus we have Russian interference and collusion. Democrats and the DNC don't like Bernie and thus we have new Russian interference and potential accusations of collusion.

Could it have always been the democrats and not the Russians at all? I haven't trusted US intel for a while now, nor the FBI and CIA for that matter and we know the CIA and FBI worked to help Obama/Clinton.

The news of Russia helping Sanders comes from our intel, but so also did the news of Russia helping Trump; well, them and Mueller. The DNC says they can do what ever they want. I'm thinking they control the US intel and and the very source of anything about Russia interfering in our elections. And now, they are going after Bernie. Corruption seekers have to admire the gall, for lack of a better word, of the DNC but has the DNC now over played their hand?? The Russians have no reason to try to help Bernie. But the DNC has every reason to want the voters to think Bernie is being helped by Russia.
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When you hear one of these liberal Jackasses claim that Trump is working for Putin, it's a sure sign that you're witnessing a totally feminized sissy boy who has no other excuse for the fact that Trump kicked the crap out the Clinton pig.

The average liberal male is a feminized wuss and is thoroughly butt hurt because they worshipped that treacherous Jezebel.

The average liberal male wuss longs to be ruled by a female and thus behaves like that which it idolizes.





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Feb 22, 2020 11:00:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
When you hear one of these liberal Jackasses claim that Trump is working for Putin, it's a sure sign that you're witnessing a totally feminized sissy boy who has no other excuse for the fact that Trump kicked the crap out the Clinton pig.

The average liberal male is a feminized wuss and is thoroughly butt hurt because they worshipped that treacherous Jezebel.

The average liberal male wuss longs to be ruled by a female and thus behaves like that which it idolizes.


There is a LOT of truth to that!!

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Feb 22, 2020 11:02:08   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kevyn wrote:
The big difference is that Sanders very publicly attacked Russian interference in our elections while Putins idiot Pumpkinfuhrer denies and sadly encourages it. It is indisputable that Russian interference has and continues to attack our elections and campaigns, how can anyone be against stopping it and punishing the Russians?


Sanders attacks with words while Mr.Trump attacks with policy including sanctions. Bernie must have them shaking in their Siberian made mukluks.

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Feb 22, 2020 11:10:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
padremike wrote:
Sanders attacks with words while Mr.Trump attacks with policy including sanctions. Bernie must have them shaking in their Siberian made mukluks.


If you mean the DNC, yes I agree!!

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Feb 22, 2020 13:02:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If you mean the DNC, yes I agree!!


I meant the Russians but you're right, the DNC must be plotting 24/7 how to rid themselves of this bothersome beast.

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Feb 23, 2020 08:27:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Accusing Russia of once again helping Trump get elected is a negative for the Trump campaign, although I doubt he will lose a single supporter over it. But the point is, it's a negative in the eyes of Trump haters and democrats and they latch onto it to continually mount their efforts to remove him. But now, US intel, for what it's worth, are reporting that Russians are now helping Bernie Sanders. If it's a negative for Trump it MUST be a negative for Sanders.

So the question is, who doesn't like Sanders? Well that is simple; the DNC doesn't like Bernie and we have all predicted that the DNC would do something to stop his nomination.

It seems obvious to me; Trump haters and democrats hate Trump thus we have Russian interference and collusion. Democrats and the DNC don't like Bernie and thus we have new Russian interference and potential accusations of collusion.

Could it have always been the democrats and not the Russians at all? I haven't trusted US intel for a while now, nor the FBI and CIA for that matter and we know the CIA and FBI worked to help Obama/Clinton.

The news of Russia helping Sanders comes from our intel, but so also did the news of Russia helping Trump; well, them and Mueller. The DNC says they can do what ever they want. I'm thinking they control the US intel and and the very source of anything about Russia interfering in our elections. And now, they are going after Bernie. Corruption seekers have to admire the gall, for lack of a better word, of the DNC but has the DNC now over played their hand?? The Russians have no reason to try to help Bernie. But the DNC has every reason to want the voters to think Bernie is being helped by Russia.
Accusing Russia of once again helping Trump get el... (show quote)


Exactly correct!!! Coincidental my butt!!! I have always rationalized 2016 everything in attacks of Trump was the deceiving criminal acts of the dems !!! And as we learned in all those investigations Mueller did they were the driving force of lies, collusion, fabrication and fraud!!

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Feb 23, 2020 08:34:10   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kevyn wrote:
The big difference is that Sanders very publicly attacked Russian interference in our elections while Putins idiot Pumpkinfuhrer denies and sadly encourages it. It is indisputable that Russian interference has and continues to attack our elections and campaigns, how can anyone be against stopping it and punishing the Russians?


Yea right~~ he only did that after knowing for a month the Russians were helping him when he got caught up in it just now.. Before that his self admitted knowledge for a month he did nothing..Not a peep!! Now he condemns the act and you justify it.. Trump denied it too yet you condemn him... Double standards much there, kevvy??? Of course..

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Feb 23, 2020 08:37:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
padremike wrote:
I meant the Russians but you're right, the DNC must be plotting 24/7 how to rid themselves of this bothersome beast.


Bloomberg has money the DNC needs, he is their wonder child.. Bernie has them all up in arms... I mean look at the alternatives. Not much to chose from thats for sure...

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