son of witless wrote:
Okay okay, I will bite. What EXACTLY is this cheating Trump has done and will do to win. You put out a lot of vague accusations, which are not fair to me. If I am to prove you wrong, and I will, I must have concrete " Facts " to refute.
Again in your mind if Trump wins, he must have cheated. So go at it. Tell me how my boy Donald is accomplishing his skullduggery.
As far as misinformation, that is crap. Both sides can easily be accused of that. Give me more. If it pleases you
Okay okay, I will bite. What EXACTLY is this cheat... (
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LOL - I love your confidence.
First, let me make this clear... I NEVER said Trump is responsible or will be responsible for the cheating in the elections. I'm not saying he isn't or won't be either, there's a lot neither of us know about and I'm not going to base my accusations on vague notions. In fact, I was I was being pretty dang specific with what I meant by cheating. IMO there are two forms of cheating, one of which I am willing to stake claims on. Here they are...
1. Gerrymandering: I *did* mention that in my post and really it couldn't be any more exact. Gerrymandering is identifiable because it changes the district maps... so, pretty obvious. The effects of gerrymandering can also be seen in the difference between popular and electoral counts. This is why I am willing to stake claims on this form of cheating... AFTER the votes are counted. Until then my "claim" is pure speculation which really isn't something you can "prove" one way or another. The best you can do is question my reasoning which I also explained already but I'll revisit that in a minute.
2. Voter suppression: I actually left this out of my previous post because even though I feel voter suppression is a much larger problem than gerrymandering, it's not as easy to track down or prove. For one, voter suppression affects the popular vote so the difference between the popular vote and the electoral vote will be completely ineffective in finding its impact. Indeed, the exposure of voter suppression requires in depth investigation, which will no doubt be obstructed.
So, if you're going to try and "prove me wrong" which I welcome you to try. You first need to understand what I am actually stating, so you know WHAT to disprove.
So let me set that up for you by being super-clear about what I am claiming. I'll just go back to the post you initially had an issue with... (
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=3159029&t=175876)
See where I said, "we all know Trump will lose the election in 2020 unless the Republicans succeed in rigging it" ???
Now let's look at your response... (
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=3159068&t=175876)
There you say this... "So your premise is that when President Trump wins, he cheated ?"
Sorry for exposing your lack of reading comprehension in front of everyone but as you can see, I never said Trump's victory would depend on HIM cheating... I said it would depend on the Republicans rigging the election. You obviously didn't catch that.
It's no big deal, I'm just letting you know that if you want to "prove me wrong", you need to drop the whole "he's accusing Trump of cheating" bit, because that isn't what I'm saying.
To answer your question about "What EXACTLY is this cheating"... Let's just go with all that gerrymandering the Republicans are doing as the example.
Finally, let's not lose sight of the fact that we ARE talking about the 2020 elections... which hasn't happened yet. So once again, that means I'm speculating. In other words, I'm not actually accusing anyone of actually cheating... YET. I am only suggesting that Trump's victory would depend on someone cheating, namely the Republicans at large. Again, it's speculation and as I already explained, this is based on the numbers I am seeing, such as the 12 million vote difference.
So... good luck trying to "prove me wrong" witless. I look forward to your attempts.