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Feb 6, 2020 17:51:37   #
American Vet
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
I agree with most of that....most of the problem is the community, those stores are not going to open up in an area where employees would be at risk, large chains are not going to risk the employees safety, hence the subsidies to cover the risk at the store you spoke of, guarantee at one time most of these areas had corner crocery stores, fruit and veggies shops, what happened? ...so here comes the dollar stores.

I will disagree with the cost of eating healthy versus the fast food and crap, i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper than fast food places and dollar stores. .............but i have access to sprouts, farmers markets and a whole host of meat markets and grocery stores..........and im willing to put in the time as i enjoy the kitchen.

So how would one fix the core problem?
I agree with most of that....most of the problem i... (show quote)


"i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper than fast food places and dollar stores"
But that requires effort on your part.....

"So how would one fix the core problem?"
I honestly do not believe it can be completely fixed. There are always those people who just do not want to work. And as long as there is a system that provides for them (or enables), there is no incentive for them to do better.

Ben Franklin said: “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

Any suggestions from you on how to fix the problem

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Feb 6, 2020 18:03:21   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
I had no idea something like this is going on. Your thoughts?



Banning Dollar Stores Hurts Underserved Communities More Than It Helps
Dollar stores fill a very real need for families across this country. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t exist.

An “anti-dollar store” movement has been flashing up in towns and cities across the country in recent years. Supporters claim the stores degrade communities and keep areas poor.

https://fee.org/articles/banning-dollar-stores-hurts-underserved-communities-more-than-it-helps/
I had no idea something like this is going on. Yo... (show quote)


They are right, it will hurt more than it helps. Friends and I go to dollar stores, dollar general-there are a bunch of thrift stores with the same theme and almost the same name. It hasn't happened to me yet, but my friend Gloria at times can't make ends meet without that help.

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Feb 6, 2020 18:06:39   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
"i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper than fast food places and dollar stores"
But that requires effort on your part.....

"So how would one fix the core problem?"
I honestly do not believe it can be completely fixed. There are always those people who just do not want to work. And as long as there is a system that provides for them (or enables), there is no incentive for them to do better.

Ben Franklin said: “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

Any suggestions from you on how to fix the problem
"i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper th... (show quote)


How to make fresh food? I don't know if this is what you mean, have you looked into canning and jarring?

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Feb 6, 2020 18:09:06   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
kankune wrote:
BS...I love my dollar store!!


Join the club.

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Feb 6, 2020 18:12:06   #
woodguru
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
... on the way to get the half gallon of true moo chocolate I was there for. ....little dollar totinos pizzas for almost 4 bucks, shit, saw some 73 ground beef ....5.99 a lb WTF? Hot pockets and little burritos almost 4 bucks. .....food is not a good buy there.


Now that there was funny...

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Feb 6, 2020 18:21:54   #
American Vet
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
have you looked into canning and jarring?


Canning and jarring requires effort.....There are always those people who just do not want to work. And as long as there is a system that provides for them (or enables), there is no incentive for them to do better.

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Feb 6, 2020 18:26:40   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Pariahjf wrote:
Agreed... Wonder if the risk factor is too high??



It is, be an easy target with lots of money flow.........would you open one in a high risk area?

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Feb 6, 2020 18:56:17   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
"i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper than fast food places and dollar stores"
But that requires effort on your part.....

"So how would one fix the core problem?"
I honestly do not believe it can be completely fixed. There are always those people who just do not want to work. And as long as there is a system that provides for them (or enables), there is no incentive for them to do better.

Ben Franklin said: “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

Any suggestions from you on how to fix the problem
"i can buy and make fresh food far cheaper th... (show quote)




I live in the kitchen, no effort at all as i enjoy making food.

I agree with all of that, but always have something to add nah, pretty spot on. So much money has been dumped in these areas....where did it go? They could have been rebuilt twice in the last 40 years. ..

How would i fix the problem....hmmmmm, be alot of head busting going on.....not sure if im the guy on that solution.

This isTexas, we have the TDCJ...Texas Department of Criminal Justice, firm believer of the justice part here i believe penalties should be harsh, labor involved in the punishment. ....yea, real harsh.

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Feb 6, 2020 19:00:00   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
Canning and jarring requires effort.....There are always those people who just do not want to work. And as long as there is a system that provides for them (or enables), there is no incentive for them to do better.



Absolutely correct..........

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Feb 6, 2020 19:21:19   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Hmmmm, i personally believe they are not a benefit to communities that would be missed......from the experience with my travels, and sometimes this being the only option in the area. ....they are doing no favors, they are high on staples, some sold frozen food.....wow!! I would walk past on the way to get the half gallon of true moo chocolate I was there for. ....little dollar totinos pizzas for almost 4 bucks, shit, saw some 73 ground beef ....5.99 a lb WTF? Hot pockets and little burritos almost 4 bucks. .....food is not a good buy there. The only thing i see them being good for is stupid crap like party favors, candy and chips, trash bags....just basic garbage. I have noticed they are everywhere now in certain neighborhoods.....too many. They are like a tote the note car dealer. ......only place your credit will let you buy one, you're happy to get it......but they are raping you with no mercy ....broken glass in the vaseline kindo no mercy


The problem is not really the dollar stores in a sense , but the reasons they are there....why are there no actual retail grocery stores? What do you think the core of that problem is? Retailers want to sell, demand usually brings the products to be purchased....money to be made........thoughts?
Hmmmm, i personally believe they are not a benefit... (show quote)


There was an underserved void and they filled it. Now, as the others do, they are moving in where others are, to take their business, if they can. Just like Sears & Roebuck and Sam Walton did with little or no remorse. Capitalism, cut your prices and compete or die. Customers and consumers win, except with big tech. They are big enough to crush all others. Time to cut them up like Ma Bell and watch her kids grow up and compete and keep each other honest. Those are my thoughts. Sam Walton put tons of mom & pop stores under and you lost the people you knew and knew you. You know, the ones who let you have credit until you got back on your feet or dropped off some groceries or found you another job and recommended you, or just hired you themselves. Those people you walked away from for strangers you didn't know and didn't know you, for the shiny new superstores and lower prices.

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Feb 6, 2020 20:05:33   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
kankune wrote:
BS...I love my dollar store!!


Every one is missing the purpose of these stores. I live forty-five minutes from the nearest Wal-Mart. We had two here, Fred's closed so now we have only Dollar General. The produce and meats are cheaper or the same as the two grocery stores we have. It's one stop shopping, with housewares, automotive, pharmacy and clothing...etc. So yes I love our discount store, it fills a niche. Now we have a Dollar Tree got to check it out.

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Feb 6, 2020 20:29:36   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Pariahjf wrote:



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Feb 6, 2020 21:14:45   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Every one is missing the purpose of these stores. I live forty-five minutes from the nearest Wal-Mart. We had two here, Fred's closed so now we have only Dollar General. The produce and meats are cheaper or the same as the two grocery stores we have. It's one stop shopping, with housewares, automotive, pharmacy and clothing...etc. So yes I love our discount store, it fills a niche. Now we have a Dollar Tree got to check it out.


We live in a county will 11,000people in the entire county. The nearest real grocery store is 32 miles away, but there is a dollar general in our little town and they have most of the day to day household items so we don't have to drive for an hour to go to a Kroger. there are a number of people who have no car, they can walk to the Dollar General when needed, otherwise they have to ask someone to take them or pick up what they need. When we are going to the Kroger, we have a list of things the neighbors need for us to get, and hopefully we will get payment for the groceries when we drop them off, but often it is a week or more before they have the money. Such is small time America, but we love it.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:57:43   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kankune wrote:


Nice to see you again Kankune! I hope all is well, especially with your little ones.

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Feb 7, 2020 06:38:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
American Vet wrote:
I had no idea something like this is going on. Your thoughts?



Banning Dollar Stores Hurts Underserved Communities More Than It Helps
Dollar stores fill a very real need for families across this country. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t exist.

An “anti-dollar store” movement has been flashing up in towns and cities across the country in recent years. Supporters claim the stores degrade communities and keep areas poor.

https://fee.org/articles/banning-dollar-stores-hurts-underserved-communities-more-than-it-helps/
I had no idea something like this is going on. Yo... (show quote)


Get rid of all Dollar Stores and replace them with "Fifty Cent Stores". That takes care of the issue.

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