Problems with Muslims (Page 2): I dunno. There were muslims here since late 40s early 50s who actually fled the theocracies in their own countries. On the other hand, maybe that's...

debeda

Wolf counselor wrote:

Islam is our 'theoretical' enemy.

Muslims are our 'physical' enemy.

'ALL' Muslims.

I dunno. There were muslims here since late 40s early 50s who actually fled the theocracies in their own countries. On the other hand, maybe that's where all the militant "black muslims" came from in the 60s and tos. Hard to tell...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

permafrost wrote:

Cherokee, you can say what you want. it is all OK ... (show quote)

That meme has been circling the past few days... Chuckled the first time...

Interesting how many believe the story about the Marines... Even if it were true it would be a gross fallacy... Like saying the military was created to fight Christianity

The Obama Muslim lie is just funny... And bizarre... But apparently if one shows respect for the faith one must be a Muslim

Stay strong Permi

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

debeda wrote:

I dunno. There were muslims here since late 40s early 50s who actually fled the theocracies in their own countries. On the other hand, maybe that's where all the militant "black muslims" came from in the 60s and tos. Hard to tell...

It's my understanding that there has always been a small number of Muslims in the US... As the faith is rather wide spread it makes sense...

Many of the africans brought over were Muslims, and some immigration from eastern Europe as well...

Interestingly, there are no numbers concerning the Asian population... But one could assume that there were Muslims among them as well...

Of course there would have been Muslims among the Spanish who sailed to the new world as well...

The world is rarely as black and white as we think of it...

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

It's my understanding that there has always been a... (show quote)

I hate to repeat myself, but this quote from a former Muslim is on target!
This is very simply a protect-the-homeland issue against the Islamic Movement that sees itself as the eventual leader of the world, with Islam the sole religion.

As Shoebat.com reported, al-Qaradawi is the primary scholar of an insidious Sunni Islamic tactic known as Muruna. Westerners have rightly begun to understand Taqiyya – lying to protect the faith of Islam – but this is a Shiite term and practice. Muruna is a much more immediate threat to the U.S. In fact, any Muslim Brotherhood infiltrator of the U.S. Government is very likely employing it right now.

Arabic translations reveal that Sunnis and Shiites have much more in common than just sanctioned prostitution. Few Westerners are familiar with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood revival of the doctrine of muruna, which literally means “stealth” or “flexibility.” It is far worse than taqiyya, since it sanctions all prohibitions that block Muslim interests, even blasphemous ones.

Muruna allows Muslims to sow division and confusion in the Western world. In a recent sermon, this doctrine was exercised by General Guide of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Muhammad Badei, who laid out his vision for the post-revolutionary era while revealing aspects of a strategy followers should use to deal with secularism in the meantime:

Do not fight the ways of the world because they are overpowering but try to overcome and use them, change their course, and pit some of them against others.

When Badei says to “overcome and use” the “ways of the world”, he is instructing Muslims worldwide on how to overcome Western secularism. It was precisely this purpose for which muruna was prescribed by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the main Muslim Brotherhood intellect who initiated it in December 1989 while in the United States during the annual conference of the Association of Muslim Youth Forums. He was with Mohammed Hamadi, a leading rebel in Libya who participated heavily in the “Arab Spring.” Hamadi is also the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Mauritania.

This doctrine and long-term plan should be of great interest to Westerners. In what the forum termed “The Priorities of The Islamic Movement in The Next Three Decades” (from 1990 to 2020), they planned to attain what they described as “the goals of the Islamic Movement.” The plan confirms Badei’s utopian hope for the “establishment of an Islamic state, governed according to Qur'anic law -- first in Egypt and eventually in the entire world.” Accordingly, muruna calls for “organized, popular work to return to Islam in order to lead society, all of society … to bring back the caliphate … to announce Jihad either by arms, by pen, or by heart.”

Muruna was designed to catapult and advance Sharia by using Western means. If one thinks that Sharia, with its harsh code, is problematic enough, how about the elimination of the kinder, gentler laws? Muruna is literally accomplished by permitting behavior normally so eschewed by Sharia that Westerners logically assume a more moderate version of Islam when such prohibitions are suddenly permitted. Westerners' eyes are, in fact, deceiving them. Muruna is about going to great lengths to gain interests through a much deeper level of deception while simultaneously lowering the guard and gaining the support of the infidels.
-----from Shoebat.com.
Shall we heed the lesson?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

manning5 wrote:

I hate to repeat myself, but this quote from a former Muslim is on target!
This is very simply a protect-the-homeland issue against the Islamic Movement that sees itself as the eventual leader of the world, with Islam the sole religion.

As Shoebat.com reported, al-Qaradawi is the primary scholar of an insidious Sunni Islamic tactic known as Muruna. Westerners have rightly begun to understand Taqiyya – lying to protect the faith of Islam – but this is a Shiite term and practice. Muruna is a much more immediate threat to the U.S. In fact, any Muslim Brotherhood infiltrator of the U.S. Government is very likely employing it right now.

Arabic translations reveal that Sunnis and Shiites have much more in common than just sanctioned prostitution. Few Westerners are familiar with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood revival of the doctrine of muruna, which literally means “stealth” or “flexibility.” It is far worse than taqiyya, since it sanctions all prohibitions that block Muslim interests, even blasphemous ones.

Muruna allows Muslims to sow division and confusion in the Western world. In a recent sermon, this doctrine was exercised by General Guide of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Muhammad Badei, who laid out his vision for the post-revolutionary era while revealing aspects of a strategy followers should use to deal with secularism in the meantime:

Do not fight the ways of the world because they are overpowering but try to overcome and use them, change their course, and pit some of them against others.

When Badei says to “overcome and use” the “ways of the world”, he is instructing Muslims worldwide on how to overcome Western secularism. It was precisely this purpose for which muruna was prescribed by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the main Muslim Brotherhood intellect who initiated it in December 1989 while in the United States during the annual conference of the Association of Muslim Youth Forums. He was with Mohammed Hamadi, a leading rebel in Libya who participated heavily in the “Arab Spring.” Hamadi is also the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Mauritania.

This doctrine and long-term plan should be of great interest to Westerners. In what the forum termed “The Priorities of The Islamic Movement in The Next Three Decades” (from 1990 to 2020), they planned to attain what they described as “the goals of the Islamic Movement.” The plan confirms Badei’s utopian hope for the “establishment of an Islamic state, governed according to Qur'anic law -- first in Egypt and eventually in the entire world.” Accordingly, muruna calls for “organized, popular work to return to Islam in order to lead society, all of society … to bring back the caliphate … to announce Jihad either by arms, by pen, or by heart.”

Muruna was designed to catapult and advance Sharia by using Western means. If one thinks that Sharia, with its harsh code, is problematic enough, how about the elimination of the kinder, gentler laws? Muruna is literally accomplished by permitting behavior normally so eschewed by Sharia that Westerners logically assume a more moderate version of Islam when such prohibitions are suddenly permitted. Westerners' eyes are, in fact, deceiving them. Muruna is about going to great lengths to gain interests through a much deeper level of deception while simultaneously lowering the guard and gaining the support of the infidels.
-----from Shoebat.com.
Shall we heed the lesson?

I hate to repeat myself, but this quote from a for... (show quote)

The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization...They don't represent all of Islam...

And I have never heard of Sunnis allowing prostitution... Source?

debeda

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

It's my understanding that there has always been a... (show quote)

AGREED!!

Buck Loc: Valparaiso,IN

You betca....

wilpharm

Skiladi wrote:

Nice what you are trying to say, but it looks like you never got past second grade in spelling

spelling nazi much??? go away

EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast

wilpharm wrote:

spelling nazi much??? go away

For those people who worry about spelling and typos, I hope you never suffer from a stroke where your typing abilities might be compromised. Lighten up!!!

Ricktloml

EN Submarine Qualified wrote:

For those people who worry about spelling and typos, I hope you never suffer from a stroke where your typing abilities might be compromised. Lighten up!!!

Sorry to hear about your stroke. I have poor spelling and typing skills just because, well, I have poor spelling and typing skills.

wilpharm

EN Submarine Qualified wrote:

For those people who worry about spelling and typos, I hope you never suffer from a stroke where your typing abilities might be compromised. Lighten up!!!

skiladi is wound a bit too tight..should not worry about spelling

Ricktloml

manning5 wrote:

I hate to repeat myself, but this quote from a former Muslim is on target!
This is very simply a protect-the-homeland issue against the Islamic Movement that sees itself as the eventual leader of the world, with Islam the sole religion.

As Shoebat.com reported, al-Qaradawi is the primary scholar of an insidious Sunni Islamic tactic known as Muruna. Westerners have rightly begun to understand Taqiyya – lying to protect the faith of Islam – but this is a Shiite term and practice. Muruna is a much more immediate threat to the U.S. In fact, any Muslim Brotherhood infiltrator of the U.S. Government is very likely employing it right now.

Arabic translations reveal that Sunnis and Shiites have much more in common than just sanctioned prostitution. Few Westerners are familiar with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood revival of the doctrine of muruna, which literally means “stealth” or “flexibility.” It is far worse than taqiyya, since it sanctions all prohibitions that block Muslim interests, even blasphemous ones.

Muruna allows Muslims to sow division and confusion in the Western world. In a recent sermon, this doctrine was exercised by General Guide of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Muhammad Badei, who laid out his vision for the post-revolutionary era while revealing aspects of a strategy followers should use to deal with secularism in the meantime:

Do not fight the ways of the world because they are overpowering but try to overcome and use them, change their course, and pit some of them against others.

When Badei says to “overcome and use” the “ways of the world”, he is instructing Muslims worldwide on how to overcome Western secularism. It was precisely this purpose for which muruna was prescribed by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the main Muslim Brotherhood intellect who initiated it in December 1989 while in the United States during the annual conference of the Association of Muslim Youth Forums. He was with Mohammed Hamadi, a leading rebel in Libya who participated heavily in the “Arab Spring.” Hamadi is also the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Mauritania.

This doctrine and long-term plan should be of great interest to Westerners. In what the forum termed “The Priorities of The Islamic Movement in The Next Three Decades” (from 1990 to 2020), they planned to attain what they described as “the goals of the Islamic Movement.” The plan confirms Badei’s utopian hope for the “establishment of an Islamic state, governed according to Qur'anic law -- first in Egypt and eventually in the entire world.” Accordingly, muruna calls for “organized, popular work to return to Islam in order to lead society, all of society … to bring back the caliphate … to announce Jihad either by arms, by pen, or by heart.”

Muruna was designed to catapult and advance Sharia by using Western means. If one thinks that Sharia, with its harsh code, is problematic enough, how about the elimination of the kinder, gentler laws? Muruna is literally accomplished by permitting behavior normally so eschewed by Sharia that Westerners logically assume a more moderate version of Islam when such prohibitions are suddenly permitted. Westerners' eyes are, in fact, deceiving them. Muruna is about going to great lengths to gain interests through a much deeper level of deception while simultaneously lowering the guard and gaining the support of the infidels.
-----from Shoebat.com.
Shall we heed the lesson?

I hate to repeat myself, but this quote from a for... (show quote)

Some will, many won't. Reminds me of this...would you firebomb your Christian neighbor's home? a moderate Muslim was asked. Of course not, Islam is the religion of peace. If a radical firebombed your Christian neighbor's home, would he deserve it? well yes, he is after all an infidel

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Cherokee38 wrote:

We have been at war with muslims since the beginning of USA. George Washington paid them tribute to prevent their attacks on USA shipping in the medderian sea. It remained that way until Thomas Jefferson. He created what is now known as marines. They were placed on American ships for protection. They wore heavy leather collars to prevent their heads being chopped off. Ala. "Leaternecks" The marines followed any survivors back to their villages and killed everybody..

Muslims have been a problem for a while. 1952 we passed a law that prevented muslims from holding public office in USA. IN 1990 we passed a law overturning the 1952 law. And our troubles are really beginning.

They congugrate in areas which gives them numbers for smaller elections. We have them as representatives mayors, school board members the list goes on.

Now we have schools teaching muslim, but our kids can't pray to Christ or God. They want to convert our kids to make it easier to convert adults. If the school serves pork they use and usually win. If they don't want their kids to eat pork fix their meals for their kids to know what they are eating. It is not the schools responsibility to know who can eat what.
Prisoners in a prison sued and won because they were not fed hadal meat and did not have prayer areas. Bull shit! THEY broke the law and give up certain rights. If prayer area is that important to them don't break the law and be put away. If you question their dress they sue saying you hurt their feelings. Again bull shit! It says you will assimilate to our way of life to be a citizen. Let us pass a law if you don't assimilate as you agreed remove their citizenship and deport. They wanted to come here we did not ask them to come.

Sharia law is in total conflict with our constitution and shouldn't be allowed. If they dress as muslim or believe in sharia law they should be refused entry. If they start dressing as muslims depot immediately.

This nation was founded on Christian principles and the oath of office is sworn on the Bible not their Koran or any other book. If they refuse then don't let them take office. What is the problem with that? Obama would have had to change or not be president.

I like my country the way it is. I do not need it changed to the shit hole muslims live in.

We have been at war with muslims since the beginni... (show quote)

Yes, you have Sharia nailed. Here's a common-sense approach. They LIE every damn one. It'sin their culture, so they will lie to get over. They have a timeline of dominance 2035 coincidentally so do the Chinese I'll give anything to see that. They train their kids from age 5 on to be sacrificial killers. Ilhan Omar was at one of their compounds. I'd say go to one of their mosques but you'd have to break in, you'll see what a religion of peace they are. That's them in a nutshell. Oh they tried to kill me a few times in Afghanistan, expected that's war, and they tried here WTF so I returned the favor, only I never just try.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Wolf counselor wrote:

It's very simple.

Muslims are the enemy.

Yes indeed.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

4430 wrote:

The problem is that they don't want to assimilate to our culture it is their belief they are to convert the world including America into Islam !

Seems I recall one of the Muslim congressman said she wasn't going to assimilate to American culture !

Their belief told to them by a brutal pedophile. Sound like MSNBC?