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Jan 25, 2020 14:33:25   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.

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Jan 25, 2020 14:37:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)


Get off CNN and MSLSD!!!!

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Jan 25, 2020 14:37:34   #
Liberty Tree
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)


Well, Whine Brat, do you feel better?

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Jan 25, 2020 14:41:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)

Sad as it is, a tellingly accurate post.

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Jan 25, 2020 14:48:05   #
Hug
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sad as it is, a tellingly accurate post.


No way is it accurate. This post is just propaganda. Reflects that the writer does not know anything about American history and just waiting to support the Communist party.

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Jan 25, 2020 14:57:58   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Just gon'na throw this out there...“The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction. Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately.” ― Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays

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Jan 25, 2020 14:59:24   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Hug wrote:
No way is it accurate. This post is just propaganda. Reflects that the writer does not know anything about American history and just waiting to support the Communist party.

And the cult speaks ...

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Jan 25, 2020 15:03:13   #
Liberty Tree
 
slatten49 wrote:
Just gon'na throw this out there...“The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction. Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately.” ― Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays


Just because opinions are passionate does not make them accurate. They are just opinions.

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Jan 25, 2020 15:12:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Just because opinions are passionate does not make them accurate. They are just opinions.

Exactly, L-T That was the clear point of Bertrand Russell's quote.

Perhaps more succinctly, from Benjamin Franklin... "If passion drives you, let reason hold the reins."

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Jan 25, 2020 15:22:54   #
Hug
 
All good points.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:06:54   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
whitne ('brat') wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)


The last four letters of you user name, perfectly describes you.

And your ridiculous rant confirms it.

A whining little snot nosed spoiled brat.



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Jan 25, 2020 18:20:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)


>>>

The 2 greatest threats to America are immigrants both legal and illegals and Muslim scumbags!

FACT

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Jan 25, 2020 19:36:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia! br This ... (show quote)


There was more than one bald-faced lie told on the floor of the Senate. By Democrats. The circus in the House degenerated into a partisan witch hunt in which truth was the first casualty. I thought Paul Ryan was the biggest shitweasel to ever disgrace the Speakership until the sot from San Francisco took over for another turn at bat.

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Jan 25, 2020 19:58:02   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sad as it is, a tellingly accurate post.


Though well crafted, only partially correct. We were already well on that road before Trump. There is no democrat candidate either that is capable of stopping this train.

Also by branding people as members of a cult it only helps in keeping the country divided. Same happened in the Obama years. Obama’s tenure was the first time I ever heard avid supporters referred to as cult members. It was divisive then too.

Trump didn’t get us here. How did we get here is the question and blaming it on one person is a cop out.

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Jan 25, 2020 20:46:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Welcome to the United States of Dystopia!
This reminds me of a few things …
First, a metaphor from Shakespearean days, at the Bard's theater, where the nobles sat safely above the pit, watching both the play and the rabble below in the pit, who whooped and hollered at the actors, and occasionally threw rotten vegetables onto the state, while brawling with one another in the pit.
It reminds me of the days before the French Revolution, where the divide between the haves and the have-nots was as great as it is here today, and the attitudes of both sides are similar.
But more than anything, it reminds me of the WWE, where the rabble surrounding the ring behave much as the wrestlers in the square circle … booing the good guy and cheering the baddie. Where winning mostly involves an illegal hold or substance out of the sight of the referee, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Where civility is non-existent and morality is focused on 'winning' at all costs.
We are at a point in our culture where a bald-faced lie on the floor of the U.S. Senate goes unchallenged under the auspices of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
We are at a point where the President can slur rivals (or anyone who disagrees with him) on Twitter and destroy reputations or re-election chances.
We are at a point where no matter what the President says or does, the members of his cult blindly follow and accept those actions and words as gospel.
We are at a point where the actions of the government are so melded with the actions benefitting the holder of the presidency that the two are indistinguishable.
We are at a point where the president can spend $100,000,000 of taxpayer dollars so that he can golf one-third of the time that he has been in office and nobody says a word.
We are at a point akin to Nazi Germany in the mid-1930's immediately prior to Hitler's rise to power. Granted, the economic situation is better, but the underlying sentiments of grievance and loss of power because of 'others' is almost identical.
This is the state that we find ourselves today and these are but a few of the problems that we face.
We have a morality problem, in that what we are seeing in our society is a lack of it. Some claim to be "devout Christians" yet still support a man in the presidency that has broken most of the Commandments that they cling to as a basis for their own morality. Those two situations cannot exist simultaneously.
We treat each other with a grossness and lack of civility that I don't remember being this bad in my almost eighty years of memory. It seems that we have receded from a civilized society to one of pseudo-anarchy where it's every 'man' for themselves and the rules are only enforced when the flagrance of the offense cannot be ignored. "Might makes right, and justice is the interest of the stronger" [paraphrased from Plato's Republic, Chapter 1].
The justice system has two branches … one for the well-to-do and another for the rest of us. A well-publicized case in San Francisco involved F. Lee Bailey, the well-known lawyer, who was accused of drunk driving. He brought in two of his high-priced lawyers from his law firm, made mincemeat of the arresting officer, was acquitted in spite of overwhelming evidence, and avoided felony conviction. That would not have happened to most of us.
The economic system isn't much better. The stock market is OK, but for most of us, our economic situations haven't improved. Automation is taking more and more of our jobs, and retraining a secretary to be a computer technician to maintain a robot probably isn't in the cards. This is going to get exponentially worse.
Finding a place to work where the employer values their employees and treats them well is rare these days, and most of the jobs are where the employee just fills a slot and does rote work is the norm (for low wages, too.)
All in all, we're becoming a dystopian society. There's no denying this. And I'm not sure that recovery will ever be complete, if at all. Trump will probably be reelected … we have to remember that this is a person that will use every trick (legal and illegal) to win the election, and we can underestimate him at our peril. After that, it's gonna be a rough patch for the country.
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Hi Whitnbrat...

Hope all is well...

Seems to me there are plenty of folk who have no problem criticizing the POTUS when they feel he needs it... Supporters I mean.... I've disagreed with him more than once...

Shocked at your statement concerning morality...

We have different views on the term...

I find the thought of infanticide, freeloading, suppressing religious beliefs, and generalizing those who disagree with me immoral...

Trump? will most certainly be reelected... And you're correct, he does use every "trick"... Name a politician who doesn't?

The world is changing... Perhaps America needs to look to her own borders and citizens, rather than attempting to play "king of the world"...

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