The right wing once more is isolated in what they believe..
Zemirah wrote:
Hiding behind a carefully woven pseudo scientific mask IS only successful while self-contained within that same 90% + crowd of like-thinking earth dwellers who have chosen to cloak themselves in their own brand of self-righteous, moral indignation toward all we nonbelievers/nonparticipants in their religious ritual deification of all things green.
It is the audacious effrontery of having thinking people see right through that oh so carefully woven veil of global warming/climate change/the sky-is-falling deception that occasionally pierces your own hypnotic, self chosen blinders.
"Know ye that the Lord He is God.
It is He who has made us, and Not we ourselves;
we are His people, and the sheep of His pasture."
(Psalm 100:3)
What wayward man has determined to call nonrenewable natural resource is produced from the remains of ancient life (coal, oil, natural gas), explaining the idea of "fossilized energy" formed over long periods of time when dead plant material was buried and subjected to high heat and pressure - this is the idea that when we use fossil fuels, we are using energy that was stored by photosynthesis 300mya, so we are recovering "fossilized energy."
The total expenditure of energy in the world each year is about 3 Γ 10 17 kJ. Today, more than 80% of this energy is provided by the combustion of fossil fuels: oil, coal, and natural gas, for which, God through His providence for mankind, has placed deposits, which are found located throughout the world, though some areas have a larger supply than others.
This is an effrontery to the self-righteousness of man; we would now create our own "self-sustaining" fuel..., for cannot we, in our self-deification, do so better than God?
...In looking for these thick-skulled pretenders of superiority, check the nearest mirror.
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absolutely agree with you...
1ProudAmerican wrote:
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We have to be very careful with this often expressed idea.. if it goes wrong would make the potato bug seem a blessing..
But I still like the concept..
Retired professor of climatology, Dr. Tim Ball argued that climate data has been manipulated and climate issues have focused on computer models rather than empirical data. Ball contends that studies showing a rise in temperatures caused by human activity ignores research that indicates that "the worldβs been warming up since about 1680" and that this is "well within any natural range." He believes that mainstream scientists have only looked at human causes and not the natural ones. In contrast to reports and most peopleβs sense that storms and hurricanes are more frequent and severe, Ball said that "the actual record shows that there has been a decrease in severe storms."
Ball welcomes the warming trend, since he says plants and animals can adapt better to rising temperatures than cooler ones, although he said that there will be a cooling period "by 2030." Ball also believes that the perception that plastics are severely polluting the oceans is not due to too much plastic being produced and thrown away, but that ships carrying the plastics to China and other places overseas for recycling simply dumped their cargos when the industry became depressed and the plastic was not worth transporting to its destination. He also contends that the idea of human-caused climate change is politically motivated by those who believe that "we need socialism from pole to pole." He concluded that "there is far too much emotionalism in the discussion of these issues."
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Retired professor of climatology, Dr. Tim Ball argued that climate data has been manipulated and climate issues have focused on computer models rather than empirical data. Ball contends that studies showing a rise in temperatures caused by human activity ignores research that indicates that "the worldβs been warming up since about 1680" and that this is "well within any natural range." He believes that mainstream scientists have only looked at human causes and not the natural ones. In contrast to reports and most peopleβs sense that storms and hurricanes are more frequent and severe, Ball said that "the actual record shows that there has been a decrease in severe storms."
Ball welcomes the warming trend, since he says plants and animals can adapt better to rising temperatures than cooler ones, although he said that there will be a cooling period "by 2030." Ball also believes that the perception that plastics are severely polluting the oceans is not due to too much plastic being produced and thrown away, but that ships carrying the plastics to China and other places overseas for recycling simply dumped their cargos when the industry became depressed and the plastic was not worth transporting to its destination. He also contends that the idea of human-caused climate change is politically motivated by those who believe that "we need socialism from pole to pole." He concluded that "there is far too much emotionalism in the discussion of these issues."
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Sounds like a voice of reason.
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Retired professor of climatology, Dr. Tim Ball argued that climate data has been manipulated and climate issues have focused on computer models rather than empirical data. Ball contends that studies showing a rise in temperatures caused by human activity ignores research that indicates that "the worldβs been warming up since about 1680" and that this is "well within any natural range." He believes that mainstream scientists have only looked at human causes and not the natural ones. In contrast to reports and most peopleβs sense that storms and hurricanes are more frequent and severe, Ball said that "the actual record shows that there has been a decrease in severe storms."
Ball welcomes the warming trend, since he says plants and animals can adapt better to rising temperatures than cooler ones, although he said that there will be a cooling period "by 2030." Ball also believes that the perception that plastics are severely polluting the oceans is not due to too much plastic being produced and thrown away, but that ships carrying the plastics to China and other places overseas for recycling simply dumped their cargos when the industry became depressed and the plastic was not worth transporting to its destination. He also contends that the idea of human-caused climate change is politically motivated by those who believe that "we need socialism from pole to pole." He concluded that "there is far too much emotionalism in the discussion of these issues."
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Dr. Tim Ball was not a climatologist.. he was a professor of Geography at the University of Winnipeg..Canada..
Not credible at all..
permafrost wrote:
Forgetting all your misconstrued excuses not to recognize CC..
TAX... Who is speaking about tax.. carbon tax was a solution proposed some years ago and still has merit. but no one has proposed such a tax for decade or more..
The tax that you and I should be concerned is the intent to tax gun ownership..
With all the whining about losing your guns, which is never going to happen.. what may happen is a tax of ownership of a gun..
Precedent is clear.. we pay tax on cars, boats and other personal property but not guns..
must be some government type drooling about adding a gun tax to all the other taxes we all pay..
What do you think of that? have you ever heard it mentioned??
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" must be some government type drooling about adding a gun tax to all the other taxes we all pay.."
That is only for those who vote Democrat. All Republicans are exempt.
" With all the whining about losing your guns, which is never going to happen. "
There are a lot of good people with Australian accents on the other side of the world, who beg to differ.
" TAX... Who is speaking about tax.. carbon tax was a solution proposed some years ago and still has merit. but no one has proposed such a tax for decade or more.. "
When you're right, you're right. Until my boy Donald leaves DC there ain't gonna be no stinking Carbon Tax. Now after 2024, when Donald retires, you had better begin breathing into paper bags, cause all of your emissions will be measured and taxed.
son of witless wrote:
" must be some government type drooling about adding a gun tax to all the other taxes we all pay.."
That is only for those who vote Democrat. All Republicans are exempt.
" With all the whining about losing your guns, which is never going to happen. "
There are a lot of good people with Australian accents on the other side of the world, who beg to differ.
" TAX... Who is speaking about tax.. carbon tax was a solution proposed some years ago and still has merit. but no one has proposed such a tax for decade or more.. "
When you're right, you're right. Until my boy Donald leaves DC there ain't gonna be no stinking Carbon Tax. Now after 2024, when Donald retires, you had better begin breathing into paper bags, cause all of your emissions will be measured and taxed.
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Son,, why does the word "tax" bring such fear to you guys?? No one likes to pay tax,, but we have to do so. just like voting, it is an obligation of living in a wonderful nation.. we all want to keep it wonderful and part of that is paying for the services we receive..
Think for a moment on the consequence of a nation not paying its debts.. we would be in a depression as we have never experienced.. even our defense treaties would be gone..
And while a carbon tax would likely be the most efficient way to accomplish results in controlling CC, no one at the moment is proposing any form of carbon tax.. nor explanation of how it would work..
As for a tax on guns.. only referenced because a fellow coffee drinker mentioned the possibility as a last horrible political attempt , that no one could consider..
Relax, don't worry.. be happy.. thing will mellow out..
permafrost wrote:
Son,, why does the word "tax" bring such fear to you guys?? No one likes to pay tax,, but we have to do so. just like voting, it is an obligation of living in a wonderful nation.. we all want to keep it wonderful and part of that is paying for the services we receive..
Think for a moment on the consequence of a nation not paying its debts.. we would be in a depression as we have never experienced.. even our defense treaties would be gone..
And while a carbon tax would likely be the most efficient way to accomplish results in controlling CC, no one at the moment is proposing any form of carbon tax.. nor explanation of how it would work..
As for a tax on guns.. only referenced because a fellow coffee drinker mentioned the possibility as a last horrible political attempt , that no one could consider..
Relax, don't worry.. be happy.. thing will mellow out..
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How will the government confiscating more of my hard earned money change the weather?
archie bunker wrote:
How will the government confiscating more of my hard earned money change the weather?
Well.....you won't be able to afford as much sunshine, which should reduce the warming effect.
So......no sunshine for you
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Well.....you won't be able to afford as much sunshine, which should reduce the warming effect.
So......no sunshine for you
I feel sad for my shadow....
permafrost wrote:
Son,, why does the word "tax" bring such fear to you guys?? No one likes to pay tax,, but we have to do so. just like voting, it is an obligation of living in a wonderful nation.. we all want to keep it wonderful and part of that is paying for the services we receive..
Think for a moment on the consequence of a nation not paying its debts.. we would be in a depression as we have never experienced.. even our defense treaties would be gone..
And while a carbon tax would likely be the most efficient way to accomplish results in controlling CC, no one at the moment is proposing any form of carbon tax.. nor explanation of how it would work..
As for a tax on guns.. only referenced because a fellow coffee drinker mentioned the possibility as a last horrible political attempt , that no one could consider..
Relax, don't worry.. be happy.. thing will mellow out..
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" Son,, why does the word "tax" bring such fear to you guys?? No one likes to pay tax,, but we have to do so. just like voting, it is an obligation of living in a wonderful nation.. we all want to keep it wonderful and part of that is paying for the services we receive.. "
Are you from English ancestry ? The reason I ask is because if you are, I am guessing that one of your ancestors likely sent a message to the colonists worded almost exactly the same as yours' is, just before the Boston Tea Party.
permafrost wrote:
Son,, why does the word "tax" bring such fear to you guys?? No one likes to pay tax,, but we have to do so. just like voting, it is an obligation of living in a wonderful nation.. we all want to keep it wonderful and part of that is paying for the services we receive..
Think for a moment on the consequence of a nation not paying its debts.. we would be in a depression as we have never experienced.. even our defense treaties would be gone..
And while a carbon tax would likely be the most efficient way to accomplish results in controlling CC, no one at the moment is proposing any form of carbon tax.. nor explanation of how it would work..
As for a tax on guns.. only referenced because a fellow coffee drinker mentioned the possibility as a last horrible political attempt , that no one could consider..
Relax, don't worry.. be happy.. thing will mellow out..
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Carbon taxes don't make sense...
Like taxes on cigarettes...
archie bunker wrote:
How will the government confiscating more of my hard earned money change the weather?
Hi archie,
The premise behind a carbon tax is that the tax, if applied per the desired process, would raise the price of the carbon fuel, with the tax proceeds being returned to the customer based on how much they purchased.
The added cost to the fuel business would not be recovered by the business. making the business less profitable and bringing alternative s more quickly to market.
Many of these proposals were bandied about so we would have to carefully read any particular plan to find if it was workable or not.. the word of "tax" in all these planes pretty much put an end to these efforts and I have not read of any proposed for a very long time..
I do not think we will ever see a Carbon Tax, it seems an idea which has run the course and has no chance of being enacted..
Weather.... After all the rain/snow we are now in to a Jan thaw with the coldest week of winter just past, we can anticipate warmth of spring any day LOL.. So the snow remains feet deep but the temp reaching the 30s for near 2 weeks, about 10 days to go.. if the weather man is right..
Have a nice day and keep posting..
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