factnotfiction

Really sad that trump and his supporters have no idea what the truth is. They live their lives as one big lie.

It really is time to remove trump from office and shut his supporters up from the incessant lies that they tell.

If impeachment can't remove trump, then he needs to voted out, by any margin, but preferably by such an overwhelming rebuke of trump and his policies that his type of politician will never get any power again.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/politics/fact-check-trump-false-impeachment-wednesday/index.html

vernon

every time you open your mouth nothing but DUMB pours out.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Really?

1. Schiff had composed his parody prior to the release of the transcript and Pelosi obviously hadn't seen it when she made her comments.

2. Lie by CNN. There was certainly some agitation by the democrats when the transcript didn't reflect Pelosi's comments.

3. Most of us don't even think there was a first whistle blower and yes, Trump is correct, the dems were claiming they had others. Where was CNN?

4. They talk about the "call" but never the actual words and what was actually said except to lie about it!!

5. The extension was for a fraction of the aid. CNN exaggerates out their a$$!

6. What Obama gave them was not lethal aid at all. Obama gave them nothing they could use to fight with!!

7. Compared to the US others have given a fraction of what we have!!

8. Nit picking 400 billion versus 530 billion. Sure, what ever. Obama visited all 58 states!

9. Trump paraphrased. He was correct!! CNN lies!!


CNN headline says 14, but there are only 9. Hmm! CNN lies!!!!!!!!!!! And wow, just how reliable is it when their "fact check references" are their own articles!!

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

FACTS from CNN, huh?

Hmmmm......didn't they just have to pay some kid a buttload of money for reporting 'facts' about him?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

LOL! Yeppers!!!!!!!!!!!!

CNN is the Adam Schiff of "news" networks!!

woodguru

[quote=nwtk2007]Really?

1. Schiff had composed his parody prior to the release of the transcript and Pelosi obviously hadn't seen it when she made her comments.
So what, big deal on the parody as well, FOX acted like it was an impeachable lie.

2. Lie by CNN. There was certainly some agitation by the democrats when the transcript didn't reflect Pelosi's comments.

3. Most of us don't even think there was a first whistle blower and yes, Trump is correct, the dems were claiming they had others. Where was CNN?
[i]Making a big deal about something that is a matter of secrecy, how would anyone be able to verify if there were other whistleblowers, and what difference does it make if there was? That would be the height of stupidity to not think there was not even a whistleblower...the information got out, it got to the ICIG, he informed the acting head of national intelligence. Obviously information came from somewhere and that my friend is the definition of whistleblowing.[i/]

4. They talk about the "call" but never the actual words and what was actually said except to lie about it!!
Actually those who talk about the call have picked it apart, and things said in the official rendition which is far from complete and not a transcript at all, spell out exactly what the charges against trump are. "The call is the teeny tiny tip of an iceberg that is filled in with a timeline of what the administration did during the months before and after. There are apparently people as ignorant as trump that believe the call defines the extent of the evidence. The only lie about the call is that it was somehow perfect and exonerated the idiot somehow.

5. The extension was for a fraction of the aid. CNN exaggerates out their a$$!
The extension was because trump intentionally wasted weeks that should have been spent locking in the necessary contracts needed to appropriately spend the funds, which by the way were being spent on US company's products. The most relevant of the issues is that trump had been made aware that a clock was running out and he actually intended for it to do so. The release came under the pressure of the withholding being made public despite aggressive efforts to cover it up. The crime is in the intent and efforts trump went to to subvert the will of congress and our national interests, he was told on multiple occasions that it was illegal and what needed to be done to make it legal. The reality it that the aid might not have even been as important as a strong showing of support and unity with the Ukraine against Putin, which of course never came as he played games with that in opposition to our national interests.

6. What Obama gave them was not lethal aid at all. Obama gave them nothing they could use to fight with!!
Obama, unlike trump, was dealing with a different situation, where there not only was serious corruption, but the nature of the corruption came from russian oligarchs answering to Putin, which was at the heart of the Ukraine breaking their stranglehold on corruption. Obama was fighting the Ukraine's corruption in that we were not sure where military aid would end up because of the corrupt control of Putin oriented loyalties. As a result laws were passed regarding verifying that aid was being used as it is supposed to be. These laws had been adhered to and the pentagon and state departments had signed off on these stipulations...which is another fact proving trump's reason's are pure crapola

7. Compared to the US others have given a fraction of what we have!!
Which has zero relevance to trump withholding aid against the wishes of congress

8. Nit picking 400 billion versus 530 billion. Sure, what ever. Obama visited all 58 states!
It's called obfuscation and aggrandizement when the GOP misrepresents and uses false equivalencies.

9. Trump paraphrased. He was correct!! CNN lies!!
Perhaps he needs to stop paraphrasing as you call it and tell it straight?

CNN headline says 14, but there are only 9. Hmm! CNN lies!!!!!!!!!!! And wow, just how reliable is it when their "fact check references" are their own articles!!

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

The ignorance hurts, even more so when people try to display it, I put responses in with your rhetorical narrative.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I'll address only one point in your useless and attempt to insult reply.

It was clear that none of the democrats first reporting on the whistleblower complaint had not read it at all and they certainly hadn't seen the call transcript when they were reporting on its awful content.

And once I heard Vindman's claim that Trump made a "demand" of the Ukraine president, I knew instantly that he was the source and that it was he that was the whistleblower or it was he that Schiff's office manufactured a whistleblower complaint based upon. It was very, very clear. It was also pretty obvious that when they heard/saw the transcript of the call that they knew they had acted too quickly and regretted acting on Vindman's claim but by then it was too late and they are now trying to save face in that regard.

When this is over and Trump is re-elected it will be your own ignorance which hurts, so take your insult and stuff it!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Man!! How are you still standing after a smackdown like that?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I know, right!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Facts are fun...

Especially progressive facts...

Kind of like play dough...

They can be anything your imagination dreams up....

But got to keep them sealed when you're not playing with them...

Or they dry out and are just a lump of flaking nothing....

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

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promilitary

The Lie Monger strikes again. But I do agree, it must be left up to the voters but sad for you,
he will likely be reelected and the left will have to start making up new lies.