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Jan 18, 2020 12:17:49   #
kemmer
 
debeda wrote:
Yeah. Cuz they're reset. AND there are areas of the world that often have periods of dry-out. Remember Smokey the Bear???

Hahahaha.... Oh puulleease. Even YOU can do better than that.

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Jan 18, 2020 12:19:48   #
debeda
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahaha.... Oh puulleease. Even YOU can do better than that.


That's all you've got?

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Jan 18, 2020 12:23:27   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
peg w wrote:
The grean new deal is a plan for survival. It was 40 degrees above normal three days ago. Is Trump going to change that fact? What does 40 degrees sbove normal look like in the middle of summer?

If the theory is correct
I guess we will find out
but I aint headin north

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Jan 18, 2020 12:41:08   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
debeda wrote:
That's all you've got?


All you've got is a closed mind and rw talking points

And that's all, folks

Anyone saying there isn't climate change amidst all the science is going the way of the dinosaurs. And dragging the rest of the population with them.

Most children are smarter than the rw posters on OPP

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Jan 18, 2020 12:44:18   #
kemmer
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
All you've got is a closed mind and rw talking points

And that's all, folks

Anyone saying there isn't climate change amidst all the science is going the way of the dinosaurs. And dragging the rest of the population with them.

Most children are smarter than the rw posters on OPP


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Jan 18, 2020 13:08:05   #
debeda
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
All you've got is a closed mind and rw talking points

And that's all, folks

Anyone saying there isn't climate change amidst all the science is going the way of the dinosaurs. And dragging the rest of the population with them.

Most children are smarter than the rw posters on OPP


Uh huh

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Jan 18, 2020 13:29:07   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trumpdom are his orange based cult members..

The proportion of Americans who are "alarmed" by global warming tripled over the last five years and is now at an all-time high, a new survey shows.

Almost 6 in 10 Americans are either "alarmed" or "concerned" by global warming, marking what researchers say is a major shift in public perception of the issue.
The survey was conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University's Center for Climate Change Communication, which together have tracked Americans' views on climate change since 2008.

As recently as 2014, the percentage of Americans categorized as "dismissive" of global warming was roughly the same as those who were "alarmed" -- around 11 to 12%.
But in the years since, the ranks of the "dismissive" -- those who believe global warming is not happening or caused by humans -- has fallen to just 10%.
Over the same time, the "alarmed" group -- people who are most worried about global warming and support measures to reduce heat-trapping carbon pollution -- grew to 31% of those surveyed, and today outnumber the dismissive crowd by more than 3-to-1.
The findings show that as the global climate changes rapidly, a growing proportion of Americans view the climate crisis as an actual crisis.
This new urgency felt my many Americans stands in sharp contrast to the policies of the Trump administration, which has rolled back dozens of environmental regulations, many of which were aimed at curbing climate change.

As for what could be behind the shift, Leiserowitz says there are a number of likely factors.

One, he says, is the science.
"The reports from the scientific community have become ever more dire," he said, pointing to the alarming United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2018 report that showed the window to stem catastrophic climate change is rapidly closing as one example.
Another reason is that political leaders are talking about the issue more, and polls have shown that tackling climate change is now a top issue for many Democratic voters.
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trum... (show quote)


Another question I DARE you to answer. So lets us for shits and giggles say we do everything you Global Warmers say we should. Will that fix anything ?

Can we then do exactly what yuse guys are doing ? When we change over to carbon free energy and we still get bad weather and Mother Earth keeps getting hotter, can we say like you guys do now, " see it's getting warmer and you were wrong. "

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Jan 18, 2020 13:31:50   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
son of witless wrote:
Another question I DARE you to answer. So lets us for shits and giggles say we do everything you Global Warmers say we should. Will that fix anything ?

Can we then do exactly what yuse guys are doing ? When we change over to carbon free energy and we still get bad weather and Mother Earth keeps getting hotter, can we say like you guys do now, " see it's getting warmer and you were wrong. "


I hope you don't have kids and they broke the mold with you sonny.

Because it's getting to be too late is no reason to do nothing.

Unless you're waiting for the rapture.

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Jan 18, 2020 13:38:32   #
son of witless
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
I hope you don't have kids and they broke the mold with you sonny.

Because it's getting to be too late is no reason to do nothing.

Unless you're waiting for the rapture.


Unless you choose to answer my questions, what you say is of no consequence.

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Jan 18, 2020 14:15:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
Well said. Its interesting how no one looks at all the "climate projections" since the 1970s - none of which happened. Glacier Park this year had to take down the signs put up in I think 2009 by the park that said "these will be gone by 2020". Cuz they're not gone. Some are bigger. Some are smaller. We don't live in a static world.....


It is a shame deb, but yes indeed the melt is happening.. time line may not meet some predictions, but some predictions have been spot on..

this for now..

https://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2019/0618/Glacier-National-Park-s-name-will-outlive-its-glaciers

aria Clemens took time off from her post-college summer job on a Montana ranch to hike into this national park to see a glacier. “I don’t like it,” she pronounced on the trail as she returned. “It’s just kind of sad to see.”

Her displeasure is over the ever-shrinking glaciers that gave this park its name. There were about 150 of them in 1850, now there are about 25, and they are projected to be gone before Ms. Clemens reaches her 40s.

The looming ice rivers have been ravaged by the changing climate. Glaciologists have penciled in 2030 for the glaciers’ obituary, though some ice may linger a bit. As the last surviving glaciers shrivel into shaded folds of the mountains, snow whipping over the Continental Divide may give them “a little lease on life just at the very end,” says Dan Fagre, a glacier expert at the United States Geological Survey. But, he says, “it won’t change the ultimate prognosis.”

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Jan 18, 2020 14:20:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
Ummmmm.....those fires were set, and reset to keep burning by 26 people. You hadn't heard?



As always, the right wing media told you a bit wrong.. it was 26 of the fires set by people not 26 people setting all the fires.



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Jan 18, 2020 14:30:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
Another question I DARE you to answer. So lets us for shits and giggles say we do everything you Global Warmers say we should. Will that fix anything ?

Can we then do exactly what yuse guys are doing ? When we change over to carbon free energy and we still get bad weather and Mother Earth keeps getting hotter, can we say like you guys do now, " see it's getting warmer and you were wrong. "


and your comprehension is once again suffering vastly...

The reduction of CO2 and other greenhouse gases will reduce the effect of CC.. not overnight.. but in due course.. just as the excess carbon took from the beginning of the industrial age to reach the point we are now, the time to reduce the effect will also require time..

The hole in the Ozone needed 30 years to show the healing.. that was a minor part of the CC and what we have to do now is get some headway before we are at a "too late to stop it" tipping point..

we are close to that tipping point and we see the effect of CC every day. even in your back yard if you simply look..

Also, try to remember that Global Warming is part of Climate change and we have not simply had a name change for the same thing.. 2 problems, one triggered by the other..



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Jan 18, 2020 15:01:28   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
As always, the right wing media told you a bit wrong.. it was 26 of the fires set by people not 26 people setting all the fires.


Not how Sky Australia said it.....either way.

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Jan 18, 2020 15:03:08   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
son of witless wrote:
Another question I DARE you to answer. So lets us for shits and giggles say we do everything you Global Warmers say we should. Will that fix anything ?

Can we then do exactly what yuse guys are doing ? When we change over to carbon free energy and we still get bad weather and Mother Earth keeps getting hotter, can we say like you guys do now, " see it's getting warmer and you were wrong. "
There is nothing one can say to the frosty kemmertoids that will change their minds about the old AGW hoax.


Y'all wanna witness some AGW alarmist obfuscation, watch Sierra Club president Mair on the SJC hot seat

The Hoax of 'Climate Change'
By Allison Nichols

Obama knows. John Kerry knows. And Al Gore, the man who has made an enormous amount of money perpetuating the biggest hoax foisted on the human race, knows. Human-inspired “climate change” is a ruse. It is all a control-grabbing, land-grabbing, money-grabbing hoax. For instance, Al Gore, the king of carbon credits, whose home has a giant carbon footprint, and who flies all over the world in private jets, has raked in millions from his green investments and "sustainability research." This, after preaching (An Inconvenient Truth) that fossil fuel is the culprit in “global warming.”

The real inconvenient truth is that the earth’s climate has been warming, cooling and dramatically changing since the beginning of time. How many of us know that Chinese sea captains reported melting ice caps as far back as 1434? Mega earthquakes and tsunamis as well as blizzards, raging fires, crippling droughts, powerful storms, horrific tornadoes and scorching heat waves have been around since antiquity. “Climate deniers,” as the alarmists so lovingly refer to us, do acknowledge changes in the climate, but most of us do not accept the premise that human activity the cause.

Recently, the hoax has been ramping up. President Obama, who has been likened to “Spock” by his climate change cheerleaders, exhorts that slow “climate change” progress can be blamed on “confused, blind, racists shrouded with hate Americans.” Obama is a far cry from a cool, rational Spock character; his cynical rhetoric continues to divide Americans and cuts off debate.

The latest forecast from the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change adds fuel to the fire. Their scare tactic is to tell us that we are "doomed.” The panel decries that carbon emissions must fall 45% by 2030. Their forecast is, of course, more poppycock emanating from liberal progressives throughout the world. And on top of that, in the Federal Climate Assessment report just issued, out has come a dire warning to Americans that climate change will negatively affect Americans physically, socially, and economically. That fact is elementary. Horrible weather does and has had severe ramifications for humans throughout the world since the beginning of time.

“Rising sea levels,” “ocean change,” and “global warming,” (now referred to as “climate change”) have become part of the vernacular despite severely flawed global warming models. However, local and global foot soldiers of the liberal progressive Socialist agenda that was hatched at the UN Brundtland Commission in 1987 continue to foster this ruse about "sustainable development," its principal buzzword. And a word to the wise, changing code words faster than the weather does not change facts.

Liberal progressives very effectively created this giant hoax. The UN and its sycophants realized, brilliantly I might add, that to continue their agenda, they would have to go beyond the Brundtland Report, and would then require the targeting of private property with oppressive regulations, had to be established on a local level first, e.g., Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is not just a toothless socialist agenda, but rather, it is a radical extremist environmentalist agenda that poses a threat to our liberties.

Recognizing that local governments (Agenda 21) are agents of change, the UN began redrafting a so-called environmental constitution. This “covenant,” as they call it, gives the UN authority over the entire globe. Unbelievably, it is being enforced despite the fact that the science behind the ruse is seriously flawed. And, history affords us the inconvenient truth that historical facts put a giant hole in their “human inspired” climate change theory.

Environmentalists have been gobbling up land with regulations based on bad science and greed for years. Consider the fact that if we get rid of fossil fuels by making them non-competitive, radical environmentalists, with their sketchy green technology, are poised to sashay in to take unprecedented control over private property and pocket billions of more dollars: “climate change” hype is a giant cash cow.

I wonder, do these environmentalists gone crazy, who have outstripped the reasoned environmentalists of the past, truly believe that carbon emissions interfere with the cycles of nature? It is audacious to think that some of us, including a hefty number of scientists (whose numbers are shrinking) believe that humans, who are tiny in the scheme of things, have a whit to do with climate changes and sea-level rises and falls. The hubris here is mind-boggling.

Even James Lovelock, whose “Gaia Hypothesis” is the founding platform for global warming hysteria, and who predicted the death of billions of humans because of it, now admits that he was an alarmist and is debunking the entire cabal. Lovelock has stated that the idea that humans are responsible for changes in the climate is not credible. Lovelock further suggested that the modern green movement has become a religion that uses guilt to gain support.

The operative question is, do “We the People” of our great nation really want to be manipulated by the UN and its minions? Do we care that the UN invasion into our country will ultimately strip away our freedoms? Do we care that “climate change” hype is a sinister means of enforcing the idea that the collective takes a front seat to individual rights?

To make matters worse, liberal progressive socialists have very effectively (as they always do…a la Saul Alinsky) demonized and dismissed the canaries in the coal mine as wacky, racist, paranoid, conspiracy theorists. Not so fast. The canaries understand that the invasion of the UN agenda, with the help of liberal progressives socialists has ushered in abuses, controls and illegal appropriations that the Constitution of the United States has warned would strip us of our liberty and freedoms.

Enough is enough. Liberal progressive scientists and politicians, not science, are dictating our carbon regulations. These modern environmental extremists have shot way past stewardship of the planet. It is up to reasoned citizens of our great country to have our voices heard.

So what can we do? The best place to have the voices heard from those of us who understand that private property is the most important guarantee of our freedoms is by taking seats on local boards and commissions. Also of importance is to determine if your city or town is a member of Agenda 21. If yes, it is up to those who understand the ramifications of that to challenge the membership.

And most importantly, although it's a monumental task, the youth of our nation who have been indoctrinated since grammar school, must come to understand that much of what they were spoon-fed in school is liberal progressive “save the planet” moral masquerading. For their own edification, our youngsters might want to hear from the canaries exactly how the hoax will affect their future. Unfortunately, many of the youth in America suffer deep scars from years and years of indoctrination. Inanition, anger, and arrogance, are some of the lingering effects of the sinister propaganda inflicted on our youth by liberal progressive socialists. But we must not give up trying.



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Jan 18, 2020 15:07:59   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There is nothing one can say to the frosty kemmertoids that will change their minds about the old AGW hoax.


Y'all wanna witness some AGW alarmist obfuscation, watch Sierra Club president Mair on the SJC hot seat

The Hoax of 'Climate Change'
By Allison Nichols

Obama knows. John Kerry knows. And Al Gore, the man who has made an enormous amount of money perpetuating the biggest hoax foisted on the human race, knows. Human-inspired “climate change” is a ruse. It is all a control-grabbing, land-grabbing, money-grabbing hoax. For instance, Al Gore, the king of carbon credits, whose home has a giant carbon footprint, and who flies all over the world in private jets, has raked in millions from his green investments and "sustainability research." This, after preaching (An Inconvenient Truth) that fossil fuel is the culprit in “global warming.”

The real inconvenient truth is that the earth’s climate has been warming, cooling and dramatically changing since the beginning of time. How many of us know that Chinese sea captains reported melting ice caps as far back as 1434? Mega earthquakes and tsunamis as well as blizzards, raging fires, crippling droughts, powerful storms, horrific tornadoes and scorching heat waves have been around since antiquity. “Climate deniers,” as the alarmists so lovingly refer to us, do acknowledge changes in the climate, but most of us do not accept the premise that human activity the cause.

Recently, the hoax has been ramping up. President Obama, who has been likened to “Spock” by his climate change cheerleaders, exhorts that slow “climate change” progress can be blamed on “confused, blind, racists shrouded with hate Americans.” Obama is a far cry from a cool, rational Spock character; his cynical rhetoric continues to divide Americans and cuts off debate.

The latest forecast from the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change adds fuel to the fire. Their scare tactic is to tell us that we are "doomed.” The panel decries that carbon emissions must fall 45% by 2030. Their forecast is, of course, more poppycock emanating from liberal progressives throughout the world. And on top of that, in the Federal Climate Assessment report just issued, out has come a dire warning to Americans that climate change will negatively affect Americans physically, socially, and economically. That fact is elementary. Horrible weather does and has had severe ramifications for humans throughout the world since the beginning of time.

“Rising sea levels,” “ocean change,” and “global warming,” (now referred to as “climate change”) have become part of the vernacular despite severely flawed global warming models. However, local and global foot soldiers of the liberal progressive Socialist agenda that was hatched at the UN Brundtland Commission in 1987 continue to foster this ruse about "sustainable development," its principal buzzword. And a word to the wise, changing code words faster than the weather does not change facts.

Liberal progressives very effectively created this giant hoax. The UN and its sycophants realized, brilliantly I might add, that to continue their agenda, they would have to go beyond the Brundtland Report, and would then require the targeting of private property with oppressive regulations, had to be established on a local level first, e.g., Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is not just a toothless socialist agenda, but rather, it is a radical extremist environmentalist agenda that poses a threat to our liberties.

Recognizing that local governments (Agenda 21) are agents of change, the UN began redrafting a so-called environmental constitution. This “covenant,” as they call it, gives the UN authority over the entire globe. Unbelievably, it is being enforced despite the fact that the science behind the ruse is seriously flawed. And, history affords us the inconvenient truth that historical facts put a giant hole in their “human inspired” climate change theory.

Environmentalists have been gobbling up land with regulations based on bad science and greed for years. Consider the fact that if we get rid of fossil fuels by making them non-competitive, radical environmentalists, with their sketchy green technology, are poised to sashay in to take unprecedented control over private property and pocket billions of more dollars: “climate change” hype is a giant cash cow.

I wonder, do these environmentalists gone crazy, who have outstripped the reasoned environmentalists of the past, truly believe that carbon emissions interfere with the cycles of nature? It is audacious to think that some of us, including a hefty number of scientists (whose numbers are shrinking) believe that humans, who are tiny in the scheme of things, have a whit to do with climate changes and sea-level rises and falls. The hubris here is mind-boggling.

Even James Lovelock, whose “Gaia Hypothesis” is the founding platform for global warming hysteria, and who predicted the death of billions of humans because of it, now admits that he was an alarmist and is debunking the entire cabal. Lovelock has stated that the idea that humans are responsible for changes in the climate is not credible. Lovelock further suggested that the modern green movement has become a religion that uses guilt to gain support.

The operative question is, do “We the People” of our great nation really want to be manipulated by the UN and its minions? Do we care that the UN invasion into our country will ultimately strip away our freedoms? Do we care that “climate change” hype is a sinister means of enforcing the idea that the collective takes a front seat to individual rights?

To make matters worse, liberal progressive socialists have very effectively (as they always do…a la Saul Alinsky) demonized and dismissed the canaries in the coal mine as wacky, racist, paranoid, conspiracy theorists. Not so fast. The canaries understand that the invasion of the UN agenda, with the help of liberal progressives socialists has ushered in abuses, controls and illegal appropriations that the Constitution of the United States has warned would strip us of our liberty and freedoms.

Enough is enough. Liberal progressive scientists and politicians, not science, are dictating our carbon regulations. These modern environmental extremists have shot way past stewardship of the planet. It is up to reasoned citizens of our great country to have our voices heard.

So what can we do? The best place to have the voices heard from those of us who understand that private property is the most important guarantee of our freedoms is by taking seats on local boards and commissions. Also of importance is to determine if your city or town is a member of Agenda 21. If yes, it is up to those who understand the ramifications of that to challenge the membership.

And most importantly, although it's a monumental task, the youth of our nation who have been indoctrinated since grammar school, must come to understand that much of what they were spoon-fed in school is liberal progressive “save the planet” moral masquerading. For their own edification, our youngsters might want to hear from the canaries exactly how the hoax will affect their future. Unfortunately, many of the youth in America suffer deep scars from years and years of indoctrination. Inanition, anger, and arrogance, are some of the lingering effects of the sinister propaganda inflicted on our youth by liberal progressive socialists. But we must not give up trying.
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