Kickaha wrote:
Hillary was the original source of the allegations that Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent. Obama could have easily silenced all of it by producing his birth certificate early in the primary season of 2008. He left it hang because it distracted from the fact he had no record to run on and nothing beyond an empty slogan of hope and change. He never defined what he was hoping for nor why or what he wanted to change other than it would be a fundamental change. His supporters took it to mean whatever they wanted and many of them wanted changes that were contradictory to those of other supporters. Many of us saw it for what it was, smoke and mirrors.
Hillary was the original source of the allegations... (
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In fact, birtherism, as it’s been called, reportedly began with innuendo by serial Illinois political candidate Andy Martin, who painted Obama as a closet Muslim in 2004. That spiraled into a concerted effort by conspiracy theorists to raise doubts about Obama’s birthplace and religion — and essentially paint him as un-American.
Martin, who briefly launched a little-noticed presidential campaign last year, has disavowed the movement he’s often credited with starting, though he still foments similarly discredited doubts about Obama’s religion.
Clinton’s 2008 hands are recoiling at Trump’s revisionism about their role in propagating the lie about Obama’s citizenship. “The suggestion that the Hillary campaign was pushing birtherism in 2008 is bunk. It's fiction,” said Phil Singer, who was Clinton’s 2008 press secretary.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304
moldyoldy wrote:
That is what the right was pushing to hide their guilt
No, the first reports came out during the democrat primaries and were traced to a Clinton advisor.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Barack Hussein Obama is the biggest hoax in history, any history.
You're absolutely right. I don't know why people don't remember when he was elected to the Senate, all the news media was saying he is the first person in the government that is from Kenya. I guess the Dems have short memories.
Kickaha wrote:
Hillary was the original source of the allegations that Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent. Obama could have easily silenced all of it by producing his birth certificate early in the primary season of 2008. He left it hang because it distracted from the fact he had no record to run on and nothing beyond an empty slogan of hope and change. He never defined what he was hoping for nor why or what he wanted to change other than it would be a fundamental change. His supporters took it to mean whatever they wanted and many of them wanted changes that were contradictory to those of other supporters. Many of us saw it for what it was, smoke and mirrors.
Hillary was the original source of the allegations... (
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And trumps BS is better?? I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Make America great again? All he's done is line his pockets and those like him. He has caused the USA to be a joke around the world while dividing this country to pre-civilwar levels. Ok now you all will attack my intelligence for not worshipping trump, whatever I remember trump since the eighties so I know he doesn't care for anyone other then himself. Ok fire away,......
wizer wrote:
And trumps BS is better?? I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Make America great again? All he's done is line his pockets and those like him. He has caused the USA to be a joke around the world while dividing this country to pre-civilwar levels. Ok now you all will attack my intelligence for not worshipping trump, whatever I remember trump since the eighties so I know he doesn't care for anyone other then himself. Ok fire away,......
"When we're dead we don't know we're dead and the pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when we're stupid."
wizer wrote:
And trumps BS is better?? I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Make America great again? All he's done is line his pockets and those like him. He has caused the USA to be a joke around the world while dividing this country to pre-civilwar levels. Ok now you all will attack my intelligence for not worshipping trump, whatever I remember trump since the eighties so I know he doesn't care for anyone other then himself. Ok fire away,......
Why bother firing away? If that's what you've got to say, it indicates that you are clueless about the realities of the Trump economy, the record low unemployment and compensation increasing without government having to raise it artificially.
I suspect you are either a TDSer or have simply been propagandized by the mainstream media and lying Democrats.
wizer wrote:
And trumps BS is better?? I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Make America great again? All he's done is line his pockets and those like him. He has caused the USA to be a joke around the world while dividing this country to pre-civilwar levels. Ok now you all will attack my intelligence for not worshipping trump, whatever I remember trump since the eighties so I know he doesn't care for anyone other then himself. Ok fire away,......
Do you remember Trump from the eighties
think he won a medal for one thing...
And won a lawsuit for something...
Google it..
Pretty cool...
Seth wrote:
Why bother firing away? If that's what you've got to say, it indicates that you are clueless about the realities of the Trump economy, the record low unemployment and compensation increasing without government having to raise it artificially.
I suspect you are either a TDSer or have simply been propagandized by the mainstream media and lying Democrats.
Seth, sometimes I enjoy the idea that the kommiecrats think that you, me, and Trump are the only ones doing well in this economy.
Let the kommiecrats think that way.
They will get the truth on election day.
Seth wrote:
Why bother firing away? If that's what you've got to say, it indicates that you are clueless about the realities of the Trump economy, the record low unemployment and compensation increasing without government having to raise it artificially.
I suspect you are either a TDSer or have simply been propagandized by the mainstream media and lying Democrats.
Agreed. Those Never Trumpers would have a far easier time in life if they could just forgive...
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Seth, sometimes I enjoy the idea that the kommiecrats think that you, me, and Trump are the only ones doing well in this economy.
Let the kommiecrats think that way.
They will get the truth on election day.
Yup, then we'll get 4 more years of moaning from these Bolsheviks.
Fortunately, since they will be on the minority in the House and Senate, there'll be no more phony impeachment stupidity.
maryla wrote:
Agreed. Those Never Trumpers would have a far easier time in life if they could just forgive...
That's why the
Leftist Propaganda Ministry mainstream media keeps plugging away... To keep those who are in the dark exactly where they are, and why Democrats like Pelosi,
Noodler Nadler and Schitt never let up. They need to prevent the "reality challenged" and the ignorant from exposure to the truth.
It's mind boggling that so many people can exist in such deep, dark holes that they can't see the positive changes in our economy that the Trump Administration has engendered, despite the repetition of lies from the left.
padremike wrote:
"When we're dead we don't know we're dead and the pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when we're stupid."
Smh sorry your stupid should I type slower for you?
Seth wrote:
Why bother firing away? If that's what you've got to say, it indicates that you are clueless about the realities of the Trump economy, the record low unemployment and compensation increasing without government having to raise it artificially.
I suspect you are either a TDSer or have simply been propagandized by the mainstream media and lying Democrats.
Trump supporter 101, if people disagree call them stupid or brainwashed. I didn't attack anyone but look at the reactions, smh time will tell.
wizer wrote:
Trump supporter 101, if people disagree call them stupid or brainwashed. I didn't attack anyone but look at the reactions, smh time will tell.
"Time will tell."
I have no idea where you've been these last couple of years, but time
has told -- the economy, jobs... While the rest of us are experiencing and thoroughly enjoying a great-and-getting-greater economy, the middle class is working, making more money while paying less taxes, an awful lot of "out-of-something" people are actually parroting the Democrats' denial of the above reality we see with our own eyes, so what can I say?
There's either some sort of mental disconnect over there on the left or TDS simply won't allow its sufferers to acknowledge that anything Trump does,
anything at all, no matter what, is positive, and that's just plain beyond the realm of possibility for
any president, even a far left Democrat. Everyone gets at least one thing right somewhere along the line, and when you can't even give them that, you simply aren't to be taken seriously.
This is why when dealing with TDSers, it's extremely difficult to have any respect for their mental capacities.
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