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Jan 10, 2020 03:35:03   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!

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Jan 10, 2020 06:07:20   #
American Vet
 
proud republican wrote:
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!


IIRC, democrats are the one's screaming "it's racist" to purge voter rolls; purge meaning to remove those who - for some reason - are no longer eligible to vote.

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Jan 10, 2020 06:47:18   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!
We we’re not aware of enormous foreign interference in our elections until 2016. The Mueller report produced loads of evidence of Russian interference and misinformation targeting our election and more importantly Americans faith in the process. Every legislator should support building a firewall to keep foreign interests from medaling in our elections and campaigns.

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Jan 10, 2020 06:52:29   #
Kevyn
 
American Vet wrote:
IIRC, democrats are the one's screaming "it's racist" to purge voter rolls; purge meaning to remove those who - for some reason - are no longer eligible to vote.


The majority of those purged from the rolls are removed not for a lack of eligibility but simply because they did not vote in a couple of local elections. These purges are targeted to areas that will benefit the party currently in charge of elections and are designed not to prevent fraud which is practically non existent, (remember Trumps commission on voter fraud that was quietly disbanded when they found none) the purges are designed to suppress voters for political gain.

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Jan 10, 2020 07:04:01   #
American Vet
 
Kevyn wrote:
The majority of those purged from the rolls are removed not for a lack of eligibility but simply because they did not vote in a couple of local elections. These purges are targeted to areas that will benefit the party currently in charge of elections and are designed not to prevent fraud which is practically non existent, (remember Trumps commission on voter fraud that was quietly disbanded when they found none) the purges are designed to suppress voters for political gain.


"The majority of those purged from the rolls are removed not for a lack of eligibility but simply because they did not vote in a couple of local elections."
So, in other words, they failed to meet the eligibility requirements.

"These purges are targeted to areas that will benefit the party currently in charge of elections"
So it is done by both parties - what is "racist" about that?

"fraud which is practically non existent"
You need to learn the definition of voter fraud.....voter fraud (also known as election fraud):

Impersonation fraud at the polls:Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

Duplicate voting: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

Buying votes: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

Ineligible voting: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

Altering the vote count: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

Ballot petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/heritage-explains/voter-fraud

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Jan 10, 2020 08:54:16   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
proud republican wrote:
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!


There is no evidence of such a massive election interference campaign prior to the 2015/16 cycle.

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Jan 10, 2020 09:06:42   #
American Vet
 
lpnmajor wrote:
There is no evidence of such a massive election interference campaign prior to the 2015/16 cycle.


Depends on your definition of "massive". But voter fraud/election fraud has been around quite a while.


"It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous “Democratic Machine,” said Bob Crawford, a now-retired journalist who covered city politics for decades for WBBM-AM and was considered the dean of the City Hall press corps. The Machine ensured voters picked the right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren’t shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.

Through decades of organization, the Machine would become a “monolithic political organization that crisscrossed racial and ethnic boundaries in the city,” Crawford said. The Machine’s operators took advantage of cynicism among voters, who figured they at least had clean water and other necessities thanks to the Machine-backed candidates, leading to systemic fraud, Crawford said.

And the people involved in the Machine didn’t just cheat to win — they cheated so they could get major victories that could give their candidates a “mandate” and discourage potential opponents from rival parties from running for office.

Mayor Anton Cermak helped create the Democratic machine, but experts said it was Mayor Richard J. Daley who mastered how to use it. The Machine operated for decades, but it was Mayor Richard J. Daley (who held office from 1955 to 1976) who mastered it, Crawford said.

“It was Cermak who got the credit for actually creating what came to be known as the Democratic Machine,” Crawford said. “Daley got the credit for turning it into an art form.”

In fact, Robert F. Kennedy once said Daley was “the whole ballgame” — meaning if candidates had Daley and his Machine on their side, they could carry all of Illinois, Crawford said."

https://blockclubchicago.org/2018/10/24/chicago-and-rigged-elections-the-history-is-even-crazier-than-youve-heard/

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Jan 10, 2020 13:03:06   #
Lonewolf
 
proud republican wrote:
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!


could it be this



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Jan 10, 2020 14:20:10   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
It's interesting that Democrats are worried about Election Security since 2016 as if before 2016 we didn't have any problems,really????? This is such a BS!!!!!

We have had problems, but why is it not a concern to the right? Why does McConnell block election integrity laws that provide fair elections and better equipment? And why have states recently been upgrading systems with equipment that has the same basic abilities to be adulterated?

We have had election problems such as voting machines and no hard ballots or recount capability for several elections and equipment and systems and procedures have been upgraded in all but about 14 states. The problems are real, the equipment is far too old and unreliable, and there are rules that are completely idiotic and senseless unless the intent is to be able to facilitate incorrect counts.

There is no reason a handful of states should have ridiculous rules no other states have because they use their control of the election process to allow for fraud.

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Jan 10, 2020 14:30:52   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
We have had problems, but why is it not a concern to the right? Why does McConnell block election integrity laws that provide fair elections and better equipment? And why have states recently been upgrading systems with equipment that has the same basic abilities to be adulterated?

We have had election problems such as voting machines and no hard ballots or recount capability for several elections and equipment and systems and procedures have been upgraded in all but about 14 states. The problems are real, the equipment is far too old and unreliable, and there are rules that are completely idiotic and senseless unless the intent is to be able to facilitate incorrect counts.

There is no reason a handful of states should have ridiculous rules no other states have because they use their control of the election process to allow for fraud.
We have had problems, but why is it not a concern ... (show quote)


I believe the voting is an individual state issue - not a federal one.

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Jan 11, 2020 08:38:29   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Kevyn wrote:
The majority of those purged from the rolls are removed not for a lack of eligibility but simply because they did not vote in a couple of local elections. These purges are targeted to areas that will benefit the party currently in charge of elections and are designed not to prevent fraud which is practically non existent, (remember Trumps commission on voter fraud that was quietly disbanded when they found none) the purges are designed to suppress voters for political gain.


Yes, they are, your party was giving out Driver Licenses to illegals so they could vote illegally. That's because your party can't win an honest election. Illegals lack eligibility, constitutionally. If someone doesn't vote in two consecutive elections their not responsible citizens and should be purged. Try again.

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Jan 11, 2020 09:12:11   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
lpnmajor wrote:
There is no evidence of such a massive election interference campaign prior to the 2015/16 cycle.


The Al Franken election in MN. More than a thousand cases of fraud were alleged. 113 were prosecuted, almost all Democrats. Franken won by barely 300 votes in a statewide election. One thousand alleged fraud cases, yet only 113 were prosecuted in a state where the election commission was controlled completely by Democrats at the time.

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Jan 11, 2020 11:43:30   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
We we’re not aware of enormous foreign interference in our elections until 2016. The Mueller report produced loads of evidence of Russian interference and misinformation targeting our election and more importantly Americans faith in the process. Every legislator should support building a firewall to keep foreign interests from medaling in our elections and campaigns.


We are just now becoming aware of the foreign, and domestic, “interference” in every aspect of our lives! Everyone, in every country and in every group, with any agenda are always interfering with all human activity! We have all become aphids in service to somebody’s “interests”. If we had the courage to allow real encryption we could return to a semblance of security. It would also limit harm from regional powers with fewer resources than the US. Never happen, of course......we dearly love our boogeymen and the fear and hatred they engender. As for general elections, thank God for the founders wisdom and having 50 elections, not just one!!

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Jan 11, 2020 16:09:47   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
IIRC, democrats are the one's screaming "it's racist" to purge voter rolls; purge meaning to remove those who - for some reason - are no longer eligible to vote.


Are they going to the voting booths to keep undesirables out? My team and I are.

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Jan 11, 2020 16:16:30   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Kevyn wrote:
We we’re not aware of enormous foreign interference in our elections until 2016. The Mueller report produced loads of evidence of Russian interference and misinformation targeting our election and more importantly Americans faith in the process. Every legislator should support building a firewall to keep foreign interests from medaling in our elections and campaigns.


The Mueller report was BS and so was he. Learn to spell meddling. A firewall will do shit. I have a few IT friends who could but won't hack in. Firewalls just make them laugh it's like Dungeons and Dragons to them. I was fully aware of the EU helping Hillary, they failed, didn't they?

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