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Jan 6, 2020 00:39:25   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
JoyV wrote:
Minimizing mail-in ballots would exclude a large proprtion of rural citizens from voting. This is something the left has been trying to do for years. Some rural counties in my State have more than 85% of voting done by mail-in ballots. To actually go to a polling place might require well over a hundred miles of driving, and not necessarily all on well maintained, let alone paved roads. It might require setting aside the entire day. And if it rained that day, washes or rivers might be impassible.
Minimizing mail-in ballots would exclude a large p... (show quote)


Agreed, but what about having mobile voting units staffed with trained and vetted workers?

BTW....where the heck do you live? How do these people get out to the doctor, school, or grocery store? And if the can not get out due to no roads, how do USPS get in to collect their mail?

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Jan 6, 2020 00:57:12   #
EmilyD
 
Lonewolf wrote:
What was unfair republican were well represented in the closed-door meetings and had plenty of opportunity to question Witnesses on the floor


What witnesses? The minority (Republicans) weren't allowed to call witnesses during the House hearings. They were only allowed to cross examine the Dem's witnesses. Once they brought the hearings out of the basement after the GOP demanded transparency it became clear how the Democrats were trying to orchestrate a coup without the public knowing about it.

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Jan 6, 2020 01:21:42   #
JoyV
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Agreed, but what about having mobile voting units staffed with trained and vetted workers?

BTW....where the heck do you live? How do these people get out to the doctor, school, or grocery store? And if the can not get out due to no roads, how do USPS get in to collect their mail?


Flash flooding does not last for several days or weeks. A wash is very temporarily flooded but our river, which is normally a few feet in width and less than a foot deep, can go to 4 miles wide and 30 to 50 feet deep when we have a big storm come in from Mexico through the Gulf of California. But until flood waters drop, unless you are a pilot you are stranded. There are many people who must collect their mail at the post office. Or like myself, have a mailbox on the nearest county road to my home. When flooding threatens, or happens, I call my post office to hold my mail since it may be days before I can get to the highway to get to my mailbox. This is why I am set up to do early mail-in ballots. But there are many people who are far more isolated than I am. A high percentage of rural citizens rely on early mail-in ballots even if they are not a necessity at any particular election day, but only a convenience much of the time.

As for Dr appointments and groceries, I reschedule appointments and keep stocked up on non-perishables.

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Jan 6, 2020 07:02:15   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
JoyV wrote:
Flash flooding does not last for several days or weeks. A wash is very temporarily flooded but our river, which is normally a few feet in width and less than a foot deep, can go to 4 miles wide and 30 to 50 feet deep when we have a big storm come in from Mexico through the Gulf of California. But until flood waters drop, unless you are a pilot you are stranded. There are many people who must collect their mail at the post office. Or like myself, have a mailbox on the nearest county road to my home. When flooding threatens, or happens, I call my post office to hold my mail since it may be days before I can get to the highway to get to my mailbox. This is why I am set up to do early mail-in ballots. But there are many people who are far more isolated than I am. A high percentage of rural citizens rely on early mail-in ballots even if they are not a necessity at any particular election day, but only a convenience much of the time.

As for Dr appointments and groceries, I reschedule appointments and keep stocked up on non-perishables.
Flash flooding does not last for several days or w... (show quote)


So what did these people do before vote by mail? I still own a house in AZ, when it floods, people have to remain in place for days....but, floods in that area are unpredictable...once every 3 years. Not often enough to be of significant concern.

What system do you propose to fix the significant challenges to election integrity? What method would you recommend to ensure the chain of custody for mail in votes? Is it possible that you believe there are no issues? At what point do we as citizens put civic duty over convivence? I do not have the answers, but perhaps you do.

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Jan 6, 2020 08:02:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Let me get this straight.
So all a terrorist organization, or someone smuggling in illegals, has to do is - use a private plane, take off from a private airstrip somewhere within flying distance of the US and land at another private airstrip inside the USA.
That’s.....different.


We are talking about private planes inside the US !

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Jan 6, 2020 09:40:46   #
Hug
 
JoyV wrote:
Minimizing mail-in ballots would exclude a large proprtion of rural citizens from voting. This is something the left has been trying to do for years. Some rural counties in my State have more than 85% of voting done by mail-in ballots. To actually go to a polling place might require well over a hundred miles of driving, and not necessarily all on well maintained, let alone paved roads. It might require setting aside the entire day. And if it rained that day, washes or rivers might be impassible.
Minimizing mail-in ballots would exclude a large p... (show quote)


I think a lot depends on how the mail in ballots are handled. Who opens the ballot? It might be that the mail in ballots are found in the trunk of a car the day after the election.

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Jan 6, 2020 10:02:39   #
debeda
 
Hug wrote:
I think a lot depends on how the mail in ballots are handled. Who opens the ballot? It might be that the mail in ballots are found in the trunk of a car the day after the election.



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Jan 6, 2020 11:36:28   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
4430 wrote:
We are talking about private planes inside the US !


😅 whew

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Jan 6, 2020 14:58:21   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
4430 wrote:


I've also saw where there is a drive to clean out of date voter rolls in every state !


The RED states will fight doing so. They need all the dead voters they can find.

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Jan 7, 2020 02:58:51   #
JoyV
 
Pennylynn wrote:
So what did these people do before vote by mail? I still own a house in AZ, when it floods, people have to remain in place for days....but, floods in that area are unpredictable...once every 3 years. Not often enough to be of significant concern.

What system do you propose to fix the significant challenges to election integrity? What method would you recommend to ensure the chain of custody for mail in votes? Is it possible that you believe there are no issues? At what point do we as citizens put civic duty over convivence? I do not have the answers, but perhaps you do.
So what did these people do before vote by mail? ... (show quote)


There are more election issues which do not involve mail-in ballots. Boxes of ballots discovered at an airport. Invalid and/or illegal voting at polling places. Intimidations (such as was done by the Black Panthers) at polling places. Electronic voting machines which are faulty. These are just a few of the issues over the past few presidential elections.

Of course there is room for improvement. But mail-in ballots are still an important means to see all citizens registered to vote get their chance. In AZ, an early mail-in ballot need not be sent through the mail either. There are secure drop boxes at county recorders where the mail-in ballot you recieved can be turned in up to a month in advance of the polling date.

As for whether or not a flood which strands you for days is a significant concern or not when it comes to voting; if you needed to vote at the polling place on one of the days flooding had you stranded, the fact that you would only be stranded for a few days would not matter.

I first started doing mail-in ballots while I was in the military. They are a reasonably safe and effective way to cast a ballot.

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Jan 7, 2020 03:01:55   #
JoyV
 
Hug wrote:
I think a lot depends on how the mail in ballots are handled. Who opens the ballot? It might be that the mail in ballots are found in the trunk of a car the day after the election.


The ballots which were found in the car trunk at an airport were NOT mail-in ballots. They were regular ballots!!!! Despite no one being able to determine how they got there or if they were valid, they were counted.

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Jan 7, 2020 08:19:33   #
Hug
 
Designate 72 hours for the polls to be open and guarded. You show up and vote and if you can not make it to the polls, then you don't vote. Only paper ballots. Voting judges from all parties to be on location at all times while the polls are open. That's it! No early voting, no mail in crap!

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Jan 7, 2020 09:31:31   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Hug wrote:
Designate 72 hours for the polls to be open and guarded. You show up and vote and if you can not make it to the polls, then you don't vote. Only paper ballots. Voting judges from all parties to be on location at all times while the polls are open. That's it! No early voting, no mail in crap!


I recall the punch hole voting and it worked very well till the Democrats started crying about hanging tads !

I somewhat agree with mail in votes but my first time voting was when I was in Vietnam and without absentee ballots I would have been able to vote

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Jan 7, 2020 11:38:52   #
Hug
 
4430 wrote:
I recall the punch hole voting and it worked very well till the Democrats started crying about hanging tads !

I somewhat agree with mail in votes but my first time voting was when I was in Vietnam and without absentee ballots I would have been able to vote

The military is an exception.

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Jan 9, 2020 09:43:34   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We need a secret vote in the impeachment trial that's the only chance at fairness we're going to get!


We do not need or want anything secret in government! That is the main problem, big brother hiding stuff.
What a dumb thing to say.

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