A question regarding self defense shootings
Jan 5, 2020 11:03:03 #
1ProudAmerican wrote:
...because kevy doesn't like the kid across the street because his (kevy's) mom likes him better than kevy….kevy is trying to find out his options....
Ha! Sounds reasonable to me
Jan 5, 2020 11:03:40 #
archie bunker wrote:
Kev, Kev, Kev, 
are you trying to tailor the conversation here?
I mean, you bring the AR-15, 30 round mag, and a dead kid into it, and all.
Sorry, but I can see where you're going with this. It's obvious to me anyway.
are you trying to tailor the conversation here? I mean, you bring the AR-15, 30 round mag, and a dead kid into it, and all.
Sorry, but I can see where you're going with this. It's obvious to me anyway.
Yep, he covered all the talking points.
Jan 5, 2020 13:06:12 #
bggamers wrote:
They can be held liable but if they just hit the bad guy no that's one reason most legal gun owners don't engage. Here in ga we have the castle law that protects you from intruders or castle doctrine it is in Alabama/Georgia (home/car/business) you have the right to defend yourself in these 3 areas but the shooting must be while your inside and threatened so I'm really not sure how that scenario would work while in public
Successfully shoot the bad guy and you are a hero, miss and hurt a bystander and you are guilty of a form of manslaughter, not intentional murder in the first degree.
I have carried concealed and done the processing on when it's my place to interfere with an armed robbery, if the person carries out his robbery and it doesn't look like anyone is going to get hurt I'll keep it to myself, if it looks like people could be killed I will intervene. The other factor here is the degree I have competed in pistol speed events, I know what I can do, and the chances of me missing is fairly low. I'm not a hero but I won't stand by and watch people get killed either, there is a line.
Trying to intervene and save people is not a free pass to screw it up and kill innocent people, there are robbery situations where it's best just to cooperate and get the robber on his way without shots being fired. Every situation is obviously different....and there are tow types of people, those who think you do something no matter what, you don't let the bad guy get away, the other weighs whether it's worth unnecessarily endangering innocent people. Hero types can get people killed.
Jan 5, 2020 13:07:45 #
Hug wrote:
Lot of difference between Zimmerman and a guy bashing a mail box.
Zimmerman was worse...
Jan 5, 2020 13:08:54 #
woodguru wrote:
Successfully shoot the bad guy and you are a hero,... (show quote)
Very good post and great advice.
Jan 5, 2020 13:21:31 #
Kevyn wrote:
I am curious, if you are in a shootout in your house and one of your shots go’s through a window and kills a neighbor kid are you liable. If someone kicks down my door and I dump a 30 round AR-15 mag on them am i on the hook for the stray shots that go through or past him.
In this day and age it would certainly involve a wrongful death lawsuit and, depending on the local authorities, whether criminal charges would be filed. As an Endowment member of the NRA I find it hard to fathom that any responsible gun owner would empty a 30 rd clip on an intruder, BUT if that were the case then he/she should be held liable.
Jan 5, 2020 13:23:54 #
Jan 5, 2020 13:31:48 #
This is sort of related and something I've thought about for years. What's your opinion? Has a crime been committed ? It's the early morning hours and the streets are deserted you're walking along and you see someone approaching about a block away. As you get closer you happen to be directly in front of the individual so you both stop. At that moment you say to him "Nice watch, may I have it?" and he complies giving you his watch. Then you say, "May I have your wallet?" and he turns it over. You thank him and continue past. A minute later a police car rounds the corner and the man hails the officer and points to you saying you just robbed him. Would that be considered robbery? No threat, force or coercion was used.
Jan 5, 2020 14:13:07 #
archie bunker wrote:
Kev, Kev, Kev, are you trying to tailor the conversation here?
I mean, you bring the AR-15, 30 round mag, and a dead kid into it, and all.
Sorry, but I can see where you're going with this. It's obvious to me anyway.
are you trying to tailor the conversation here? I mean, you bring the AR-15, 30 round mag, and a dead kid into it, and all.
Sorry, but I can see where you're going with this. It's obvious to me anyway.
Make it a dead old lady, letter carrier whatever you want.
Jan 5, 2020 14:52:48 #
F.D.R. wrote:
This is sort of related and something I've thought... (show quote)
This is where the silliness of stand your ground comes from.
Jan 5, 2020 14:53:43 #
This seems a little bit relevant.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/us/florida-ups-truck-police-chase-shooting/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/us/florida-ups-truck-police-chase-shooting/index.html
Jan 5, 2020 15:35:16 #
F.D.R. wrote:
This is sort of related and something I've thought... (show quote)
Of course it is robbery. The request carries an implied threat.
Jan 6, 2020 02:38:28 #
Kevyn wrote:
There have been a couple of recent shootings that ... (show quote)
Kevyn
I say the shooting lacks intent. However did the civilian follow safe shooting guidelines? “Be sure of your target, backstop & beyond”. He could be in serious trouble.
Jan 9, 2020 09:41:36 #
Kevyn wrote:
There have been a couple of recent shootings that ... (show quote)
You're making up scenarios that aren't going to happen. Anyone who has firearms in his home in order
to protect life and property knows how to use that gun.
Jan 9, 2020 10:31:53 #
promilitary wrote:
You're making up scenarios that aren't going to happen. Anyone who has firearms in his home in order
to protect life and property knows how to use that gun.
to protect life and property knows how to use that gun.
I would not count on that, too many accidental shootings.
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