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Jan 3, 2020 11:45:37   #
debeda
 
4430 wrote:
Kinda like the Democrats that weren't going to vote of Obamacare who the DNC told them either vote for or when you come up for reelection you won't get any money from us !

Funny how some thinks it ok for Demo's to do things but not the Repub's it's the good ole standby double standard !


I have heard that the same thing happened in the House for the impeachment vote

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Jan 3, 2020 13:45:08   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I believe in the truth. No matter how many lies are told no matter what arguments are presented or deflections made the truth remains the same.


I think we all like the truth, Tom, but I was wondering the same thing myself. I'd like to know how anyone knows what some Senator would like to vote but doesn't have the testicular fortitude to vote that way. Seems to me that would be sorta like proving a negative. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Jan 3, 2020 14:21:05   #
JoyV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
If the republican Senators who would vote for trumps removal had the guts to vote as they wished there would not be the suggestion of secret ballots. The way it is they are afraid of retribution from the loudmouth bully and the suck ups who go along for the ride hoping for approval. trump deals with victims and accomplices and accomplices become victims so nobody stands up to him.


What retributions? I don't recall a dead list associated with Trump. And Congressmen are not in the executive branch and under his authority to be fired or recalled. So what retribution would supposedly be the only reason they would not vote to impeach if the voting weren't secret? The only retribution would be from their constituents come election time. That is as it should be!!!!!

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Jan 3, 2020 14:25:43   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We need a secret vote in the impeachment trial that's the only chance at fairness we're going to get!


Why didn't they have a secret vote in the house?

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Jan 3, 2020 16:49:27   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
If the republican Senators who would vote for trumps removal had the guts to vote as they wished there would not be the suggestion of secret ballots. The way it is they are afraid of retribution from the loudmouth bully and the suck ups who go along for the ride hoping for approval. trump deals with victims and accomplices and accomplices become victims so nobody stands up to him.


I thought you like truth, Tom. What a load of fantasy tripe.

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Jan 3, 2020 21:15:06   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I think we all like the truth, Tom, but I was wondering the same thing myself. I'd like to know how anyone knows what some Senator would like to vote but doesn't have the testicular fortitude to vote that way. Seems to me that would be sorta like proving a negative. Maybe I'm missing something.


It is re election time and it is a fact that trump will campaign against you if you cross him also predominately trump supporting states voters will vote against them if they are against trump. Imagine losing all the perks of office and lobbiests dollars .

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Jan 3, 2020 21:18:55   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
youngwilliam wrote:
I thought you like truth, Tom. What a load of fantasy tripe.


What ever you say old man

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Jan 3, 2020 22:20:21   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
What ever you say old man


Ya, well you listen hear sonny.

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Jan 4, 2020 01:37:36   #
egb
 
I would bet bucks (not a lot because I'm not rich) that even a secret vote would not convict. I think you "secret vote" dream, is just that, a dream. You know it will never happen because the R's are in charge in the Senate. This is a moot issue.

The House voted in a rank partisan fashion. All thinking people in America (including the Senate) see that. The House could not even name a specific law broken.

America is far better off after 3 years under Trump than after 8 years under the previous administration.

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Jan 4, 2020 01:39:12   #
debeda
 
egb wrote:
I would bet bucks (not a lot because I'm not rich) that even a secret vote would not convict. I think you "secret vote" dream, is just that, a dream. You know it will never happen because the R's are in charge in the Senate. This is a moot issue.

The House voted in a rank partisan fashion. All thinking people in America (including the Senate) see that. The House could not even name a specific law broken.

America is far better off after 3 years under Trump than after 8 years under the previous administration.
I would bet bucks (not a lot because I'm not rich)... (show quote)


Completely agree, egb, and welcome to OPP

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Jan 4, 2020 07:36:57   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Ya, well you listen hear sonny.


You are alright

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Jan 4, 2020 09:20:44   #
peg w
 
Trump has not made America great again. Manufacturing is down, and the middle class is shriking. Back to the topic. We need a secret vote to remove our reckless president who is looking more like a dictator every minute. This is the only way the Republicans who hate him will have the courage to vote against Trump

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Jan 4, 2020 09:24:44   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
peg w wrote:
Trump has not made America great again. Manufacturing is down, and the middle class is shriking.


WOW you must not watch Varney and Company !

Might do you well to take off the Obama moonbeam eye glassed you got out a cracker box and take another look

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Jan 4, 2020 09:56:00   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
peg w wrote:
Trump has not made America great again. Manufacturing is down, and the middle class is shriking. Back to the topic. We need a secret vote to remove our reckless president who is looking more like a dictator every minute. This is the only way the Republicans who hate him will have the courage to vote against Trump


Hit and now RUN!! peg.

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Jan 4, 2020 11:00:12   #
debeda
 
peg w wrote:
Trump has not made America great again. Manufacturing is down, and the middle class is shriking. Back to the topic. We need a secret vote to remove our reckless president who is looking more like a dictator every minute. This is the only way the Republicans who hate him will have the courage to vote against Trump



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