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Dec 24, 2019 15:53:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
A Liberal is, generally and basically, unorthodox--and that is the major rift with being a Conservative. It is not so much that nothing is sacred but that nothing--absolutely nothing--is set in stone. Conservatives are generally and basically believers and defenders of the status quo. So Liberals may mostly find Conservatives as primitive and dense, while Conservatives find Liberals irreverent and arrogant.

What neither understand generally is that both are two halves to the Big Picture. Both views are crucial to doing what is best for the greatest good and maintaining our Republic. Demonizing by either of the other is an attack on truth. No matter how either side feels about the other's platform and policies, there is always room for compromise and accord...if they listen to each other and work together.

Which side do we want to blame for this adamant and vicious division? Both! It is sickening and childish nonsense how our Congress and Citizens are acting. Like a two year old's tantrum. It really is madness if you can a step back. Yet such a wise move to step back and objectively assess is seen by both parties as an egregious act of disloyalty and lack of commitment. Sad!
A Liberal is, generally and basically, unorthodox-... (show quote)


15 threads of pure hate in the last 7 days against our President and now you’re standing on your soapbox and preaching to who???????????

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Dec 24, 2019 16:00:26   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
15 threads of pure hate in the last 7 days against our President and now you’re standing on your soapbox and preaching to who???????????


Pure facts are not hate in any form, pure or otherwise. WHEN WILL YOU EVER ANSWER A THREAD OF MINE WITH SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE INSTEAD OF PURE INSULT?

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Dec 24, 2019 16:36:49   #
emarine
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I see a lack of morals (or an overabundance of political maneuvering) on both sides of the aisle...

In general terms, I do find conservatives to have stronger morals than liberals... But of course, wil a liberal would claim that that is subjective





A lot has changed in the Republican party... the Republicans went after Bill Clinton on moral grounds & we elected trump totally discarding morality of any form... it all about winning not what's right or wrong... lie, cheat or steal...

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Dec 24, 2019 16:40:50   #
emarine
 
rumitoid wrote:
I do not disagree; the degree does matter. We are a Rebuplic.





Not for long...

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Dec 24, 2019 17:18:27   #
rumitoid
 
emarine wrote:
A lot has changed in the Republican party... the Republicans went after Bill Clinton on moral grounds & we elected trump totally discarding morality of any form... it all about winning not what's right or wrong... lie, cheat or steal...


Excellent! Thank you.

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Dec 24, 2019 17:36:34   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
rumitoid wrote:
A Liberal is, generally and basically, unorthodox--and that is the major rift with being a Conservative. It is not so much that nothing is sacred but that nothing--absolutely nothing--is set in stone. Conservatives are generally and basically believers and defenders of the status quo. So Liberals may mostly find Conservatives as primitive and dense, while Conservatives find Liberals irreverent and arrogant.

What neither understand generally is that both are two halves to the Big Picture. Both views are crucial to doing what is best for the greatest good and maintaining our Republic. Demonizing by either of the other is an attack on truth. No matter how either side feels about the other's platform and policies, there is always room for compromise and accord...if they listen to each other and work together.

Which side do we want to blame for this adamant and vicious division? Both! It is sickening and childish nonsense how our Congress and Citizens are acting. Like a two year old's tantrum. It really is madness if you can a step back. Yet such a wise move to step back and objectively assess is seen by both parties as an egregious act of disloyalty and lack of commitment. Sad!
A Liberal is, generally and basically, unorthodox-... (show quote)


An excellent observation. It takes two or more opinions,approaches or methods to produce a healthy and robust end-result. Trouble is, both
of the two sides ( in this case left and right,and their variants ), have pushed aside the moral element to attain their goals. This can end only in a bitter loser, still battling to make their points valid. Sound familiar?
Calm heads are needed. Lotsa luck. Compromise is needed. Fuggadaboudit.
Like the opening states,we are watching two-year olds throwing tantrums. An adult needs to come
Into the room. "Moral High Ground " has left the building, and now all we can do is Pray for something very remarkable to happen. Dare I ask for a Miracle to get our Nation back.

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Dec 24, 2019 20:19:38   #
rumitoid
 
billy a wrote:
An excellent observation. It takes two or more opinions,approaches or methods to produce a healthy and robust end-result. Trouble is, both
of the two sides ( in this case left and right,and their variants ), have pushed aside the moral element to attain their goals. This can end only in a bitter loser, still battling to make their points valid. Sound familiar?
Calm heads are needed. Lotsa luck. Compromise is needed. Fuggadaboudit.
Like the opening states,we are watching two-year olds throwing tantrums. An adult needs to come
Into the room. "Moral High Ground " has left the building, and now all we can do is Pray for something very remarkable to happen. Dare I ask for a Miracle to get our Nation back.
An excellent observation. It takes two or more opi... (show quote)


Get your point And true.

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Dec 24, 2019 20:31:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Pure facts are not hate in any form, pure or otherwise. WHEN WILL YOU EVER ANSWER A THREAD OF MINE WITH SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE INSTEAD OF PURE INSULT?


How many others commented on your constant insults to the President and those of us who support him. I have commented many times on the subject and ask questions and clarification of your “facts” AND you ignore them! You don’t want to actually have a conversation except when others agree with you! Why am I the only one that you call “foul” when I comment on your THREAD of insults? Are you not capable of debating a subject without using the language of an unintelligent, uneducated, hate filled man? You would be surprised how many more people would engage in a conversation with you if you would treat others that disagree with you with RESPECT!

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Dec 25, 2019 07:50:35   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
TexaCan wrote:
How many others commented on your constant insults to the President and those of us who support him. I have commented many times on the subject and ask questions and clarification of your “facts” AND you ignore them! You don’t want to actually have a conversation except when others agree with you! Why am I the only one that you call “foul” when I comment on your THREAD of insults? Are you not capable of debating a subject without using the language of an unintelligent, uneducated, hate filled man? You would be surprised how many more people would engage in a conversation with you if you would treat others that disagree with you with RESPECT!
How many others commented on your constant insults... (show quote)



He is a liberal & thus entitled to insults and no requirements of proof. They did the same thing to Joseph McCarthy.

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