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Dec 22, 2019 20:28:39   #
eden
 
Seth wrote:
While Russia's economy is not a major issue on a global scale, the fact that they are a major nuclear power is.

They also have a lot of influence in a part of the world that is a potential flashpoint for WW III.

Such a country is not to be taken lightly, nor is it to be unnecessarily backed into a corner.

Only a leader or political party that wants to start a war that could lead to nuclear confrontation would disregard the above.

Putin is in a very powerful position, pretty much the owner of Russia, and is therefore not to be dismissed as anything less than significant.

President Trump apparently understands this better than you do, and as such tries to maintain a cordial relationship with Putin and Russia.

He does not, by any means, kiss Putin's hindquarters -- to the contrary, he has posed stronger sanctions on Russia than his predecessor and has done a lot more towards arming Ukraine than Obama, who did nothing of the kind.

Remember Obama's "Tell Vladimir that I'll have more flexibility after the election?" It's interesting how you and the rest of the Democrats, including the mainstream media, tend to ignore that little hot mic incident on one hand, while slandering Trump with everything from collusion to being Putin's puppet.

No matter where evidence or lack thereof leads, your side just blathers a party line and keeps repeating the lie over and over until those who don't do their own research actually believe it. This is the essence of propaganda.

Face it, Eden, your entire left wing political platform is supported by a foundation of lies.
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So imposing punitive sanctions for international thuggery is “backing them into a corner?”.
Your misreporting of Obama’s hot mic incident is not surprising and even if those comments were imprudent pales into insignificance in light of Trumps Helsinki performance with Putin. But hey at least he was open about his hatred for his own Security Apparatus and his disdain for America by extension.

“Side”? I don’t have a side. If I criticize Trump for his ignorant buffoonery I must be a commie pinko fag. If I call out Warren, Sanders and ORourke for their meanderings into far left idiocracies like taking away private health insurance and confiscating “assault” rifles I must be a right wing knuckle dragger.
Which puts me somewhere in the unaffiliated
pragmatic middle which is just where I feel most comfortable. 😊

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Dec 22, 2019 21:14:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Do not be a dork... your love has been impeached.. over and done a matter for history forever..

and while Moscow Mitch and his senate have already told us they will not remove him, and impeachment will last forever in the history of our still young nation..

Georgia and the Crimean wanted Russia to invade them.. that is what Putin said , so of course the right wing believes that is true.. how hopeless can humanity git..

If we stopped with corporate welfare the balance of our nation would be far better off..
Do not be a dork... your love has been impeached..... (show quote)


Putin didn't "invade" them. We're you there? I was! Dope.

I'm tired of maroons acting like they're all experienced and knowing. Tell me what I want to hear, then I might actually think you have a clue!

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Dec 22, 2019 21:23:24   #
cbpat1
 
permafrost wrote:
To me, this is worse then sad, an American president openly bragging about a world class authoritarian supporting him after he has been impeached and expecting it to be positive factor in his supporters view..

"At the end of the day, it is always Putin first" from Bill Kristol, a conservative commentator..

"trump wants us to know that Putin has his back" from Eric Columbus a former Justice Department official.

amid other comments,,, "I wonder if trump defenders are ever embarrassed by this stuff" wrote Jay Nordlinger, a senior editor at the National Review.

Russian state media echoed Putins words and added comment about Giulianini..

Rossiya 1 news channel broadcast segments of Giuliani's interview with right-wing channel one America news, in which the presidents personal attorney promoted debunked conspiracy theories about Ukrainian interference in the 2016 US presidential election..

Now if anyone is still pretending not to know how that false story got started it is a fav from Putin and Russia and so very much a lie..

Now I will simply sulk about the enemy of our state being the go-to guy for our president to find comfort from after he has suffered impeachment..

Such an unbelievable state of affairs.. our patriotic father would be spinning in their graves if they knew this..
To me, this is worse then sad, an American preside... (show quote)




Everything you cling to has been debunked by The Horowitz reports but your not intelligent enough to pay attention or you don’t give a hoot about the truth and are willing to keep carrying on with the lies just like your pals at CNN & MSNBC. At this point your just making a fool out of yourself. Man up and just admit you have it wrong.

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Dec 22, 2019 23:31:38   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
So imposing punitive sanctions for international thuggery is “backing them into a corner?”.
Your misreporting of Obama’s hot mic incident is not surprising and even if those comments were imprudent pales into insignificance in light of Trumps Helsinki performance with Putin. But hey at least he was open about his hatred for his own Security Apparatus and his disdain for America by extension.

“Side”? I don’t have a side. If I criticize Trump for his ignorant buffoonery I must be a commie pinko fag. If I call out Warren, Sanders and ORourke for their meanderings into far left idiocracies like taking away private health insurance and confiscating “assault” rifles I must be a right wing knuckle dragger.
Which puts me somewhere in the unaffiliated
pragmatic middle which is just where I feel most comfortable. 😊
So imposing punitive sanctions for international t... (show quote)


As far as Trump's method of diplomacy goes, he doesn't comport himself like a hindquarters kissing, give away the farm for peace professional diplomat because he's not, but it's more than plain that his way gets results -- if the Democrats weren't sending out a constant false message that Trump won't be around much longer and his counterparts knew he will be, his dealings with foreign leaders would bear more fruit more quickly. However, the Democrats have been doing everything they could to undermine his presidency and make him fail (unsuccessfully, because he's a lot smarter than they are), screw America and Americans, right? It's all about politics to the Dems, on every level from illegal immigration to the economy to foreign relations to Homeland Security, since before he was even inaugurated, accusing him baselessly of everything from Russia collusion to bribery with most things in between. No President in our entire history has been as beleaguered as Trump.

And naturally, since it was Obama, the hot mic incident, just like the Bidens' Ukraine Adventure®, was a "move along, nothing to see here" non-event while Trump's totally above board phone conversation was a cataclismic impeachable horror.

Come on, Eden, you are as TDSed as any of the other lefties here -- you can be just as "I"m objective" as that phony "John Correspondent" was awhile back, but the single mindedness of your every post reveals exactly where you're coming from.

Here's a perfect example of the way Trump and those associated with him have been treated from the beginning by your so-called "Resistance:"

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/the-deep-state-resistance-terrorized-innocent-americans-including-me/

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Dec 23, 2019 00:19:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
eden wrote:
Yes they are armed to the teeth with rusting missiles, ships and planes. Their attack sub fleet is dated and in need of repairs and upgrades. More than half of their military forces are unable to put to sea, leave the runway or get their engines started. All of this makes them dangerous of course because their leader needs to bluster and compensate to cover up the rampant corruption at the pinnacle of Russian political power. “Patriotic”
invasions of places like Crimea and Georgia keep his base revved up but seriously....
(Reportedly their one aircraft carrier has to be accompanied everywhere by a massive tugboat so every time the carrier breaks down it can be towed back to port). The US has 11 Nuclear powered Aircraft Carriers. No they do not have military capabilities anywhere near our own.

I agree that there is no harm with having a friendly demeanor towards a regional rival but not when they blatantly invade and annexe another’s sovereign territory. Then it’s time to be stern and impose sanctions as we have done.

The problem with Trump is that he publicly excoriates our western allies while professing “love” for vicious dictators like Kim, Putin and Xi. If this is some clever strategy by the boy genius it has yet to show results.
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Should America have sanctions for invading the territoties of other nations?

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Dec 23, 2019 06:25:17   #
eden
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Should America have sanctions for invading the territoties of other nations?


Sorry not familiar with “territoties.”

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Dec 23, 2019 06:55:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
eden wrote:
Sorry not familiar with “territoties.”


What a perfectly useless response...

Good to know you haven't lost your touch...

Merry Christmas... Hope you are surrounded by your loved ones and enjoying the blessed season...

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Dec 23, 2019 08:53:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Putin didn't "invade" them. We're you there? I was! Dope.

I'm tired of maroons acting like they're all experienced and knowing. Tell me what I want to hear, then I might actually think you have a clue!



That sure is hard to accept..

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Dec 23, 2019 08:56:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Everything you cling to has been debunked by The Horowitz reports but your not intelligent enough to pay attention or you don’t give a hoot about the truth and are willing to keep carrying on with the lies just like your pals at CNN & MSNBC. At this point your just making a fool out of yourself. Man up and just admit you have it wrong.





Got a link or a post??? NO, I did not think so.

all you got is wishes and night dreams..



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Dec 23, 2019 08:57:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
That sure is hard to accept..


Many of us everywhere. You really have no idea what is going on beyond the boundaries of your little world behind screen and keyboard.

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Dec 23, 2019 09:49:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many of us everywhere. You really have no idea what is going on beyond the boundaries of your little world behind screen and keyboard.



I did not think you had anything... just one more right wing dream, supporting your leaders keeper..

What a Putz..



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Dec 23, 2019 10:36:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
I did not think you had anything... just one more right wing dream, supporting your leaders keeper..

What a Putz..


Your meme reminds me of the democrats and how the can't see the corruption in the Biden/Burisma issue, or the corruption in how the FBI and CIA were politicized by Obama as they lied to the FISA judge to get spying warrants on the Trump camp, or like the corrupt nature of Hillary and the DNC paying foreign players to get dirt on Trump (fake dirt at that), an I could go on and on.

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Dec 23, 2019 11:46:21   #
okie don
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The only thing debunked is your belief that Russia helped Trump get elected. LOL! But hey, when you have 90% of the media outlets playing that garbage day in and day out, it's no wonder y'all continue to believe it. Y'all are even getting ready to amp it up because y'all know that Trump is more than likely going to win in 2020 so you must build your "Russia did it" excuses early on!

Pathetic. But you will soon be crying a different tune as we start nailing down all the ones involved in the over throw of an American president. Speaking with some Russian nationals this past weekend, I was amazed and up lifted by their view of the democrats as being a bunch of whimpering children who can't win even when they cheat. LOLOL! I greatly enjoyed talking to them!!

Despite your idiocy, y'all are going to have to accept that Putin and Russia are very important to the safety of the earth. While y'all want to continue to kill babies, we are trying to save the living from the lunacy of leftist war mongers in their efforts to do what, I am not sure. I mean, really, what are the goals of the left? To drive down the economy? To fight with Russia and let Islam take over the earth?? To undermine our sovereignty and allow outsiders to take us over from the inside? In some ways, I think it would be funny to have one of your "socialists" win in 2020, to see them give nothing of what they are promising. Y'all promise so much free stuff like reparations and student loan forgiveness; yet I'd bet a cool million they won't deliver on any of that! But, y'all WILL continue to kill babies and undermine the American family. Y'all will continue to give free stuff to people who are perfectly capable of working, continuing the cycle of poverty while enriching your select .5%, allowing them to have it all while you keep the weight of poverty upon the other 99.5%.

Y'all disgust me. Y'all want to give away the farm but get all bent up when we dare to converse with a leader like Putin who is, in all actuality, very much like us.
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You got it 👍
MAGA 2020

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Dec 23, 2019 12:17:19   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Your meme reminds me of the democrats and how the can't see the corruption in the Biden/Burisma issue, or the corruption in how the FBI and CIA were politicized by Obama as they lied to the FISA judge to get spying warrants on the Trump camp, or like the corrupt nature of Hillary and the DNC paying foreign players to get dirt on Trump (fake dirt at that), an I could go on and on.



gosh, you want Biden kid investigated? write your rep.. get it done... think it was looked into years ago, but heck that has never stopped a right winger from demanding another investigation..

as for the impeachment, it is done and no Biden was ever involved in the antics of the orange guy..

do not try so hard to divert..

Your dossier, which maybe what you are trying to talk about was started by the Republicans.. routine for them to go digging for dirt, the SOP of the republican party..

So even going back years to find something.. you still got nothing.. another group supporting another orange criminal and now you are all hurt because at last someone is holding him accountable..

First time in his life dads money can not buy him out, except maybe in the senate with the turtle guy..already refusing to have a fair trial..



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Dec 23, 2019 12:49:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
gosh, you want Biden kid investigated? write your rep.. get it done... think it was looked into years ago, but heck that has never stopped a right winger from demanding another investigation..

as for the impeachment, it is done and no Biden was ever involved in the antics of the orange guy..

do not try so hard to divert..

Your dossier, which maybe what you are trying to talk about was started by the Republicans.. routine for them to go digging for dirt, the SOP of the republican party..

So even going back years to find something.. you still got nothing.. another group supporting another orange criminal and now you are all hurt because at last someone is holding him accountable..

First time in his life dads money can not buy him out, except maybe in the senate with the turtle guy..already refusing to have a fair trial..
gosh, you want Biden kid investigated? write your ... (show quote)


You're first line is just, again, too stupid. I don't want Hunter investigated, I want Joe investigated. I want to know what favors he is doing to Burisma and Ukraine such that they are willing to launder milliions to him through his son Hunter. I'd have thought you'd have figured that out by now. Not too bright, are you!?

I see you are proud of your partisan impeachment. Excellent. We love that you are handing the election in 2020 over to Trump and US! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!! So many conservative judges to confirm and so little time!!

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