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Dec 19, 2019 13:42:59   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You believe the Russian state owned media just like you believe everything on the leftist media here. No surprise.

And you don't believe anything that you don't want to believe.

Watching Russian media is something that is a part of understanding how russia and russians are seeing things. Russian media is just like FOX, it is very much a reflection of the message that Putin wants out there for his followers. The right should pay attention to what russian media says, because it is a window of the relationship between trump and putin.

Trump's take on Putin and Russia has nothing to do with what our intelligence agencies and inside spies and diplomats see and report. Trump has acted like a true right winger in that he has formed his beliefs and policies on Putin, and he simply does not want to hear or believe anything our intelligence or other allied nation's intelligence has to say, especially warnings.

You seem to have an awareness that Putin controls the media, since you called it state media. Putin kills and aggressively suppresses real news, Trump is relegated to simply vilifying it and calling it fake news, he's like to end the real news but we have freedom of the press in this country.

You know what Putin fundamentally is, he is a dictator, so why do you struggle with wanting to support russia as trump does and arriving at the correlations between trump and putin? Putin and Russia are bad actors in terms of their all out war against democracies all over the world, and you can't see how wrong trump's support of that is?

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Dec 19, 2019 13:48:59   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
You seem to have an awareness that Putin controls the media, since you called it state media. Putin kills and aggressively suppresses real news, Trump is relegated to simply vilifying it and calling it fake news, he's like to end the real news but we have freedom of the press in this country.


The homegrown leftist's want all independent media disappeared and they are succeeding in censoring dissidents.
The MSLSD fake news media is todays stateside Pravda

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Dec 19, 2019 14:00:08   #
woodguru
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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President Trump worked hard, earned the billions he got. Came to the WH, multi-billionaire does not even claim his pay check but donates it to charity or back to the US Treasury. Do you know math?

Do you "know math", can you do it? Do you understand bankruptcies, I don't call intentionally buying troubled businesses, borrowing hundreds of millions, stripping off cash and accruing hundreds of millions in payables, and filing bankruptcy in such a short time it indicates either extreme incompetency or an intent to run the business into the ground at great profit. I have heard right wingers respond to his bankruptcy history as "doing nothing illegal". Bankruptcy being legal doesn't make it morally right when done with bad and intentional profit motives.

Can you do the math on the pittance he makes such a big deal about donating? During his election he opened Mar A Lago as a government sanctioned cash register. The cost of a membership doubled, went up a hundred thousand dollars, meanwhile a new benefit was added, it was openly stated that the cost of a membership came with face time benefits. Wealthy businessmen would have the chance to pitch their ideas, and it has paid off for many that have been appointed to agency positions that they have absolutely no experience for. It is understood that foreign diplomats doing business with the president at the "winter white house" should buy memberships for their delegations, as they book hundreds of thousands worth of the best suites.

Oh, and he just paid a fine of two million for abusing his non profit, using it like a personal checking account.

Yeah do the math

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Dec 19, 2019 14:00:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
And you don't believe anything that you don't want to believe.

Watching Russian media is something that is a part of understanding how russia and russians are seeing things. Russian media is just like FOX, it is very much a reflection of the message that Putin wants out there for his followers. The right should pay attention to what russian media says, because it is a window of the relationship between trump and putin.

Trump's take on Putin and Russia has nothing to do with what our intelligence agencies and inside spies and diplomats see and report. Trump has acted like a true right winger in that he has formed his beliefs and policies on Putin, and he simply does not want to hear or believe anything our intelligence or other allied nation's intelligence has to say, especially warnings.

You seem to have an awareness that Putin controls the media, since you called it state media. Putin kills and aggressively suppresses real news, Trump is relegated to simply vilifying it and calling it fake news, he's like to end the real news but we have freedom of the press in this country.

You know what Putin fundamentally is, he is a dictator, so why do you struggle with wanting to support russia as trump does and arriving at the correlations between trump and putin? Putin and Russia are bad actors in terms of their all out war against democracies all over the world, and you can't see how wrong trump's support of that is?
And you don't believe anything that you don't want... (show quote)


During his annual marathon news conference in Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin dismissed the charges against Trump as "completely made up."

"The Democratic party, which lost the elections, is now trying to revise this history through the means that they have at their disposal — first by accusing Trump of collusion with Russia. But then it turned out there was no collusion," Putin said Thursday during the hours-long event, echoing the arguments put forth by Trump and his Republican colleagues in Congress. "It could not form the basis for impeachment, and now there is this made-up pressure on Ukraine."

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Dec 19, 2019 14:11:17   #
woodguru
 
maximus wrote:
Hey, Lonewolf, I'm in the Christmas spirit and not gonna argue with ANYONE until after the 25th. I would like to ask a question though. What top secret information has Trump given to the Russians? Also, what has Trump done to make our country weaker?

If you followed the news you would know these things. It being top secret information it hasn't exactly been covered, just that we lost the best and deepest inside mole in the russian government we had. Trump is a living walking, talking security breach when it comes to sharing top secret information on russia.

It has been mainstream news on dozens of fronts that trump told Kisliak highly sensitive classified information that severely compromised our ally's intelligence agency it came from. It has been well covered that not only does our intelligence keep highly sensitive intelligence on russia from him, foreign intelligence agencies consider him a direct threat in terms of information going directly to Putin to where they are forced not to share with our intelligence.

What good does it do you to ask what the facts are when you will not believe them of even look into what anyone says? Tramp and his highly unhealthy relationship with Putin makes him a security disaster, not to mention he has refused to support anti russia cyber security.

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Dec 19, 2019 14:16:19   #
woodguru
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Because evil peoples make the headlines. And Time Magazine gathers audience of these kinds of people that magnetize curiosities of similar kind. Radicals are now exploding, to populate their readers.

When you are focused on evil that is all you tend to see...meanwhile Time has run a gamut of truly great people in order to profile good. Trump made Time a few times, but they were less than complimentary...

The interesting thing is that there have been plenty of reasons for some time to splash trump on the cover of Time, but accompanying articles profiling why would have been profiles in pure abomination...so I suspect they have refrained from going nuclear on the president.

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Dec 19, 2019 14:20:10   #
woodguru
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Perma, everything you've said, could not be proven, and are the opposite of the facts. Typical of all radical DEMS and socialist liberals. And you are one of them. I can understand why your brain is loaded with junks.

You have that interestingly perfect bar on truth, a true catch-22, you refuse to acknowledge or accept facts, so then you can maintain that there is no proof. There is a plethora of proof, you just refuse to see it.

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Dec 19, 2019 14:21:38   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:

What good does it do you to ask what the facts are when you will not believe them of even look into what anyone says? Tramp and his highly unhealthy relationship with Putin makes him a security disaster, not to mention he has refused to support anti russia cyber security.


The deep state uniparty said the same thing about JFK and Khrushchev...JFK convinced Khrushchev to remove
missiles from Cuba and the old OSS/deepstate/uniparty operatives went Berserk

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Dec 19, 2019 14:40:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
If you followed the news you would know these things. It being top secret information it hasn't exactly been covered, just that we lost the best and deepest inside mole in the russian government we had. Trump is a living walking, talking security breach when it comes to sharing top secret information on russia.

It has been mainstream news on dozens of fronts that trump told Kisliak highly sensitive classified information that severely compromised our ally's intelligence agency it came from. It has been well covered that not only does our intelligence keep highly sensitive intelligence on russia from him, foreign intelligence agencies consider him a direct threat in terms of information going directly to Putin to where they are forced not to share with our intelligence.

What good does it do you to ask what the facts are when you will not believe them of even look into what anyone says? Tramp and his highly unhealthy relationship with Putin makes him a security disaster, not to mention he has refused to support anti russia cyber security.
If you followed the news you would know these thin... (show quote)


The news says we lost a mole. They also stand in ditches full of water to make believe it's flooding.

The Russians want to disrupt the US. Look at this impeachment. Look at how it started and those who worked so hard to promote it. Do you think Russia might have a mole or two in our gov???

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Dec 19, 2019 15:19:18   #
Lonewolf
 
maximus wrote:
Hey, Lonewolf, I'm in the Christmas spirit and not gonna argue with ANYONE until after the 25th. I would like to ask a question though. What top secret information has Trump given to the Russians? Also, what has Trump done to make our country weaker?


well lets start with his constant efforts to please Putin!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-extracted-russia-spy-trump-classified-info-oval-office-2019-9

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/report-donald-trump-security-risk-russia-spy.html


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/did-donald-trump-share-classified-information-again


Each and every time he takes the Russians side over our own lintel people he weakens America.

Every stupid and child like tweet hurts the office of President.
Have you noticed when he now meets with the Russians he only has a Russian supplied interpreter and no notes are taken!
enjoy your Christmas

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Dec 19, 2019 15:26:24   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 


All of this is regurgitated propaganda that looks like it was written by yer hero 'david brock'.
MSLSD's madcow disease only spreads to fellow travelers

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Dec 20, 2019 07:13:12   #
JIM BETHEA
 
It just continues to amaze me just how ignorant & uninformed some of the American people can be???

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Dec 22, 2019 19:56:36   #
Radiance3
 
permafrost wrote:
This is from Russia state owned news programs...


Russia’s State TV Calls Trump Their ‘Agent’


Vesti Nedeli, a Sunday news show on the same network, pointed out that it was Trump, personally, who asked Lavrov to pose standing near as Trump sat at his desk. It’s almost the literal image of a power behind the throne.


Appearing on Sunday Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, Mikhail Gusman, first deputy director general of ITAR-TASS, Russia’s oldest and largest news agency, predicted: “Sooner or later, the Democrats will come back into power. The next term or the term after that, it doesn’t matter... I have an even more unpleasant forecast for Trump. After the White House, he will face a very unhappy period.”

The host, Vladimir Soloviev, smugly asked: “Should we get another apartment in Rostov ready?” Soloviev’s allusion was to the situation of Viktor Yanukovych, former president of Ukraine, who was forced to flee to Russia in 2014 and settled in the city of Rostov-on-Don.

Such parallels between Yanukovych and Trump are being drawn not only because of their common association with Paul Manafort, adviser to the first, campaign chairman for the second, but also because Russian experts and politicians consider both of them to be openly pro-Kremlin.

Tightly controlled Russian state-television programs constantly reiterate that Trump doesn’t care about Ukraine and gave Putin no reasons to even contemplate concessions in the run-up to the recent Normandy Four summit in Paris.

State-television news shows use every opportunity to demoralize the Ukrainians with a set of talking points based on the U.S. president’s distaste for their beleaguered country. The host of Who’s Against on Rossiya-1, Dmitry Kulikov, along with pro-Kremlin guests, took repeated jabs at the Ukrainian panelist, boasting about the meeting between Trump and Lavrov.

“There are no disagreements or contradictions between Trump and Russia,” argued Valery Korovin, director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise, appearing on the state-television channel Rossiya-24. Korovin insisted that the Democrats in Congress are the main antagonists in the relationship between Russia and the United States.
This is from Russia state owned news programs... ... (show quote)


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Fake news as well. The story is well fabricated, and replaced with ideas and statements that would put the president and Russia in illegal relationship during the past years. To objective of this is to put credence to the Russia hoax allegations planted by the Deep State to president Trump. The motive is a continuation of that.

Similar hoax invented, revised to favor their narratives of deceptions
hoping to mislead the people to believing of something made up of fabricated LIES.

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Dec 22, 2019 19:59:29   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
You have that interestingly perfect bar on truth, a true catch-22, you refuse to acknowledge or accept facts, so then you can maintain that there is no proof. There is a plethora of proof, you just refuse to see it.


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Facts? Libs don't use facts. They use all misleading and deceptive- fabricated narratives to enhance their corrupt and illegal maneuver of the justice system. Libs are the clear and present danger of this country.

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Dec 22, 2019 21:05:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Fake news as well. The story is well fabricated, and replaced with ideas and statements that would put the president and Russia in illegal relationship during the past years. To objective of this is to put credence to the Russia hoax allegations planted by the Deep State to president Trump. The motive is a continuation of that.

Similar hoax invented, revised to favor their narratives of deceptions
hoping to mislead the people to believing of something made up of fabricated LIES.
=============== br Fake news as well. The story is... (show quote)


I DO wish these leftist idiots would stop making shit up.

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