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Dec 20, 2019 08:58:29   #
okie don
 
dtucker300 wrote:
All civility has been thrown out the window. We are in a downward spiral. Both parties are to blame.


Trump meant it as a joke that flopped...I realize he's a fighter but he needs to tone it down IMHO.

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Dec 20, 2019 09:02:30   #
Singularity
 
byronglimish wrote:
Haven't see you in a while, glad to see you made bail.😁


No. I am not bailing you out! And I'm not wasting good money on your phone or commissary accounts, either. You always insist upon one reaping what one sows....

Just deserts, or just dessert?

I obviously only just came to visit so you could see me gloat in person. Small of me, but then I AM free to come and go!

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Dec 20, 2019 09:10:07   #
Singularity
 
okie don wrote:
Trump meant it as a joke that flopped...I realize he's a fighter but he needs to tone it down IMHO.


can't. . .


RESIST.....


AHHHHHHH.....

Trump is a joke that has flopped!

Kill me now, please!!!!!!!

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Dec 20, 2019 09:12:33   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Singularity wrote:
No. I am not bailing you out! And I'm not wasting good money on your phone or commissary accounts, either. You always insist upon one reaping what one sows....

Just deserts, or just dessert?

I obviously only just came to visit so you could see me gloat in person. Small of me, but then I AM free to come and go!



Demoproggie absolution is a perk of the leftists.

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Dec 20, 2019 09:20:34   #
Singularity
 
byronglimish wrote:
Demoproggie absolution is a perk of the leftists.


Sour grapes? Save sugar packets from coffee/snack breaks. Combine for making toilet tank wine. It pays to plan ahead. Especially when options are so limited.

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Dec 20, 2019 09:35:51   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Singularity wrote:
Sour grapes? Save sugar packets from coffee/snack breaks. Combine for making toilet tank wine. It pays to plan ahead. Especially when options are so limited.


I'll take that under advisement.

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Dec 20, 2019 09:41:55   #
debeda
 
dtucker300 wrote:
All civility has been thrown out the window. We are in a downward spiral. Both parties are to blame.


AGREED. President Trump is reviled, castigated, and made fun of publicly by the Ds and MSM all day every day. But if he casts aspersions on any D at any time, it's a federal case. The hypocrisy is stunning.

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Dec 20, 2019 09:45:21   #
teabag09
 
Singularity wrote:
What troubles me is the lack of boundaries between personal and professional. Clearly this is retribution for performance of her patriotic duty to vote her conscience/belief! Instead of vigorously and virtuously defending his professional behavior which is under impeachment, he offers a bitter and venal personal attack, not upon the congresswoman who cast her vote, but rather upon the memory of a beloved for whom she is still tenderly grieving.

But I realize we are not talking about the same things. He was about a destructive personal ego fluffing errand. She was about a solemn professional/political act of duty.

The fact that he STILL has trouble keeping those categories straight is the reason he should be removed from office and prevented from holding office again. Just as, similarly, multiple and egregious examples of inability to understand and perform basic functions crucial to the task have disqualified his family, legally, from engaging in public/business acts of offering CHARITY!
What troubles me is the lack of boundaries between... (show quote)


What you either forget or don't know is that President Trump allowed the tender widow to have a State funeral for her husband to which she off the record thanked him profusely in private and then turned around and proclaimed gleefully that she was going to vote to impeach him. The President doesn't attack without provocation. Keep than in mind. Mike

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Dec 20, 2019 10:53:32   #
Carol Kelly
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Crass...

But sadly, so was this article...

What happened to standards?


What difference? Michigan is lost to Muslims, anyway. Dingell must have been a nice person, I don’t really know, but quite obviously his widow has issues about something.
Maybe it’s life change, maybe it’s dementia. At any rate, this isn’t worth wasting time over.

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Dec 20, 2019 10:58:58   #
Singularity
 
teabag09 wrote:
What you either forget or don't know is that President Trump allowed the tender widow to have a State funeral for her husband to which she off the record thanked him profusely in private and then turned around and proclaimed gleefully that she was going to vote to impeach him. The President doesn't attack without provocation. Keep than in mind. Mike

https://www.michiganadvance.com/blog/dingell-memorial-in-d-c-scheduled/

Dingell memorial in D.C. scheduled
By Susan J. Demas -February 8, 2019

John Dingell, speaking with Harold Ford | Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy, University of Michigan photo, Flickr
The Washington, D.C., memorial for former U.S. Rep. John Dingell (D-Dearborn) will be held next week along with services in Dearborn. The arrangements were announced on Friday by the office of his wife, U.S. Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Dearborn).


John Dingell | Susan J. Demas
Dingell, 92, died Thursday night in his home. He served 59 years in Congress.

On Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2019, a motorcade carrying Dingell’s casket will be driven past the U.S. Capitol on the East Plaza.

On Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019, at 10:30 a.m., a funeral mass will be held at Holy Trinity Catholic Church, 3513 N. Street NW, Washington, D.C. 20007. This event is open to the public. A reception at Georgetown University will follow.

Also:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-john-lewis-to-speak-at-john-dingells-funeral-in-michigan/2019/02/12/ae6543e2-2ede-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html

There was a memorial device in D. C.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/rep-debbie-dingell-talks-loss-friendships-memorial-service

And: https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/dingell-memorial-services-to-be-held-next-week-in-washington

His death led to an outpouring of sympathies and remembrances of the legendary former dean of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi ordered Capitol flags to be flown at half-staff Friday in his memory.

Point being, it doesn't sound like Trump remembers the funeral and arrangements clearly, nor that he has seen and worked with Ms Dingell since.

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I missed the gleeful part....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/opinion/debbie-dingell-trump-impeachment.html

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Dec 20, 2019 11:03:21   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Faces Backlash After John Dingell Hell Joke During Michigan Rally: 'It's Below Basic Human Decency'

Shane Croucher

President Donald Trump faced a social media backlash after an off-color joke suggesting the late Democratic Congressman John Dingell was in Hell.

Dingell, a WWII veteran who represented Michigan from 1955 to 2015, died in February aged 92. His wife Debbie Dingell fought and won his seat and now sits in Congress.

On Wednesday she voted to impeach Trump over his alleged Ukraine-related misconduct. Trump, who was holding a rally in Michigan's Battle Creek, lashed out at Dingell.

Trump talked about an emotional call from Dingell to say thank you after he gave her husband what he described as "A plus" treatment upon his death, including the lowering of flags and offering the use of the Capitol Rotunda.

"She calls me up. 'It's the nicest thing that's ever happened. Thank you so much. John would be so thrilled. He's looking down, he'd be so thrilled. Thank you so much sir.' I said that's OK, don't worry about it," Trump said, relaying the call.

"Maybe he's looking up, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But let's assume he's looking down."

The president then said he "won't go into the conversation because it's not fair to do that" before emphasizing the thankfulness of Dingell's call and then highlighting that she voted to impeach.

Dingell responded on Twitter, describing the hurt Trump's rally comments had caused her.

"Mr. President, let's set politics aside. My husband earned all his accolades after a lifetime of service," she tweeted.

"I'm preparing for the first holiday season without the man I love. You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder."

"Standing with my friend @RepDebDingell tonight," tweeted Rep. Elissa Slotkin, another Michigan Democrat.

"Mr. President, shame on you. Going after Rep. John Dingell, a WWII vet and devoted public servant who spent his life fighting for Michiganders, demeans you and your office."

Norman Ornstein, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute think tank, said Dingell "was true a patriot and a sweet, sweet man."

"When I would have lunch with him in the House Dining Room, he made sure to say nice things to every person working there. His staff adored him. He was everything Donald Trump is not," Ornstein tweeted.

Rep. Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican, tweeted that he "always looked up to John Dingell - my good friend and a great Michigan legend. There was no need to 'dis' him in a crass political way. Most unfortunate and an apology is due."

Paul Rieckhoff, who served with the U.S. Army in Iraq and Afghanistan and who is now a prominent activist for veterans, also attacked Trump.

"Congressman John Dingell served in the Army in WW2 and went to college under the GI Bill," Rieckhoff tweeted. "And he's just the latest veteran to be disgustingly disrespected by Trump—a man who knows nothing of honor, respect or service."

Michigan State Senator Curtis Hertel, a Democrat, called the president's comments "below human decency."

"I don't know what's more sad; a President who attacks a deceased Congressman and his widow in their home state two weeks before Christmas or my friends on the other side of the aisle who will refuse to condemn it," Hertel tweeted.

"This is not just below the presidency, it's below basic human decency. The irony of this indecency is that John was one of the most decent people I ever knew.

"To be clear. John Dingell was a Veteran and a Statesman while President Trump is a Coward and blowhard. If you can't tell what side you're supposed to be on you're a d--- fool."
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Newsweek asked the Trump 2020 campaign for comment by email and will update this article if one is provided. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-swipe-michigan-lawmaker-042800241.html
Trump Faces Backlash After John Dingell Hell Joke ... (show quote)

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News week is one of the most radical and liberal- biased magazines that portrays lies and falsehoods to the American public.

This was the excerpt from the magazine:
"She calls me up. 'It's the nicest thing that's ever happened. Thank you so much. John would be so thrilled. He's looking down, he'd be so thrilled. Thank you so much sir.' I said that's OK, don't worry about it," Trump said, relaying the call.

"Maybe he's looking up, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But let's assume he's looking down."


And the statement and words all blown up to retaliating ugliest description of the president's statement.

These were the words of “up and down” ,uttered by the president and all of a sudden, all the MSM including Slatten and the radical DEMS, and the MSM, had found the ugliest words and statements uttered to retaliate against the president.

The phrase of "up and down" said by the president did not mean ugly, or malicious, but you people made the meaning ugly. How polluted are your brains, just so you could destroy and spew your hatred towards the president? Every word he says or every action he does, you people use magnifying glass and turn the words so bad and ugly to destroy him.

Serving the military is a sacred honor. I salute them and must be respected. I honor and respect Congressman Dingell for that. My husband served and died for that; my uncles served and died for that. And the president is the only president who've afforded them great honor; provided the most decent budget, and ready healthcare for all the sick and the wounded. He did not disrespect Dingell. It was the people who hate the president that made the words ugly, and Slatten called it “beyond human decency”.

Obama sliced the defense budget to the lowest, and removed 197 officers he did not like. No one among you complained about it.

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Dec 20, 2019 11:18:01   #
Singularity
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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News week is one of the most radical and liberal- biased magazines that portrays lies and falsehoods to the American public.

This was the excerpt from the magazine:
"She calls me up. 'It's the nicest thing that's ever happened. Thank you so much. John would be so thrilled. He's looking down, he'd be so thrilled. Thank you so much sir.' I said that's OK, don't worry about it," Trump said, relaying the call.

"Maybe he's looking up, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But let's assume he's looking down."


And the statement and words all blown up to retaliating ugliest description of the president's statement.

These were the words of “up and down” ,uttered by the president and all of a sudden, all the MSM including Slatten and the radical DEMS, and the MSM, had found the ugliest words and statements uttered to retaliate against the president.

The phrase of "up and down" said by the president did not mean ugly, or malicious, but you people made the meaning ugly. How polluted are your brains, just so you could destroy and spew your hatred towards the president? Every word he says or every action he does, you people use magnifying glass and turn the words so bad and ugly to destroy him.

Serving the military is a sacred honor. I salute them and must be respected. I honor and respect Congressman Dingell for that. My husband died for that; my uncles served and died for that. And the president is the only president who've afford them great honor; provided the most decent budget, and ready healthcare for all the sick and the wounded. He did not disrespect Dingell. It was the people who hate the president that made the words ugly, and Slatten called it “beyond human decency”.
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Well, if we are just gonna go and make stuff up as we go along, try this one....

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-claims-he-knows-john-dingell-is-in-hell-because-h-1840538904
WASHINGTON—Clarifying controversial remarks he made about the deceased Michigan lawmaker last night, Donald Trump told reporters Thursday he can confirm the late congressman John Dingell is in hell because of the window into a terrifying inferno the president sees every time he closes his eyes. “Each night, when I lie down in bed, I feel the heat of eternal flames and hear the screams of the damned,” said Trump, explaining that he has gazed into the hideous abyss and seen Satan himself feasting upon the maggot-infested corpse of the long-serving former representative. “John’s definitely down there along with all the other poor souls crying out to be released from ceaseless torment. He’s always whispering that the fate awaiting me will be far, far worse than his, beyond anything I could possibly comprehend. Why do you think I barely sleep?” Members of the White House press pool were then seen running from the briefing room as the blood drained from the president’s face, his eyes rolled back in his head, and, using an inhumanly deep, guttural voice, he began to mutter strange incantations in Latin.

Here is what he actually said.

https://youtu.be/ETR-2Ws8tj4

https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/rep-debbie-dingell-responds-to-trump-attacking-her-late-husband-to-say-it-didn-t-hurt-would-not-be-the-truth-75362885886

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Dec 20, 2019 11:24:34   #
Radiance3
 
Singularity wrote:
Well, if we are just gonna go and make stuff up as we go along, try this one....

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-claims-he-knows-john-dingell-is-in-hell-because-h-1840538904
WASHINGTON—Clarifying controversial remarks he made about the deceased Michigan lawmaker last night, Donald Trump told reporters Thursday he can confirm the late congressman John Dingell is in hell because of the window into a terrifying inferno the president sees every time he closes his eyes. “Each night, when I lie down in bed, I feel the heat of eternal flames and hear the screams of the damned,” said Trump, explaining that he has gazed into the hideous abyss and seen Satan himself feasting upon the maggot-infested corpse of the long-serving former representative. “John’s definitely down there along with all the other poor souls crying out to be released from ceaseless torment. He’s always whispering that the fate awaiting me will be far, far worse than his, beyond anything I could possibly comprehend. Why do you think I barely sleep?” Members of the White House press pool were then seen running from the briefing room as the blood drained from the president’s face, his eyes rolled back in his head, and, using an inhumanly deep, guttural voice, he began to mutter strange incantations in Latin.
Well, if we are just gonna go and make stuff up as... (show quote)

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Sorry, I am not putting up with you. I know who you are, and my time spent for you is not worth it. Go your way and chase others.

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Dec 20, 2019 11:36:51   #
Singularity
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Sorry, I am not putting up with you. I know who you are, and my time spent for you is not worth it. Go your way and chase others.


You just can't help yourself, though.

Watch. You will respond again to this subject, even if you have to go sneaking off to another thread hoping to hide that from me and the others! No self discipline, or you wouldn't have replied to me in the first place, right.

Don't worry, I think it is cute.

Kind of.


I added this to the end of that post after you replied. Wouldn't want you to have missed it.

What Trump really said:

https://youtu.be/ETR-2Ws8tj4


https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/rep-debbie-dingell-responds-to-trump-attacking-her-late-husband-to-say-it-didn-t-hurt-would-not-be-the-truth-75362885886

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Dec 20, 2019 11:39:33   #
Carol Kelly
 
bahmer wrote:
I do know if there is a person if pushed far enough that they will not retaliate in some way now whether it becomes a fist fight or something worse is all up in the air. But I suppose that Trump felt that he was being pushed and that it may have gone beyond the point of no return for him. I am not going to point fingers here but what do the democrats expect from the man he is after all only human and the democrats are literally trying to nail him to a tree so to speak. There is only one individual that didn't strike back and the killed him by nailing him to a tree. I am sure that there is enough blame on both sides to suffice for one election cycle. Maybe it will be better if both sides cool their heels for a bit and then try and work together. Just a thought is all.
I do know if there is a person if pushed far enoug... (show quote)


Very thoughtful response and I say “Amen”.

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