JFlorio wrote:
The transcript is a fact. And the fact is you cannot comprehend. There was no demand. Trump used the word favor.
Please tell me you're not THAT naive. It's well known that crooks use ambiguous language to disguise their intentions. Putin has a long standing reputation for saying things without actually being literal. It's so common in fact that it finds its way into our film culture where we hear mob bosses say things like "take care of that thing"
So you really think anyone bribing a foreign government over the phone is going to make it crystal clear for all the records? No. He's going to be as vague as he can. Nowhere in that transcript do we actually see where Trump explains what that "favor" is. Obviously, he was assuming Zelensky knew what he meant without saying it.
Wow, it's just mind boggling what you folks expect us to believe. "Oh, he didn't actually say the word 'demand' so he's innocent." LOL!!!!
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly why bribery was taken out of the articles of impeachment.
Actually it wasn't. The first article is titled as "abuse of power" but that is a direct reference to bribery which IS an abuse of power.
JFlorio wrote:
Delayed aid, even though the Ukrainians say they had no idea aid was being delayed.
Oh, so all of a sudden opinions count? LOL Should I just assume than opinions that don't help Trump are without merit and the opinions that DO help Trump are gospel?
Also, saying they didn't know doesn't mean it wasn't delayed. It just means they didn't know about it. And maybe they didn't because their president didn't tell them yet. Or maybe they lied. Were they under oath when they said they didn't know?
The one thing we DO know for a fact is that OUR records show the funds were delayed. I want to say nice try but I can't really even say that.
JFlorio wrote:
News break, aid gets delayed all the time for various reasons.
Not without status reports and explanations. What we had here was an order from Trump to delay the funds without any explanation at all. Not the same thing.
JFlorio wrote:
Your problem whiner. You can’t prove the intent of said delay.
Neither of us can because we were never involved with the process, although the timing was pretty dang suspicious. But people who WERE involved can certainly provide insight through their testimonies and they did. When you add that to everything else, a picture of the truth emerges. Have you ever heard of a little thing called deduction? You might not have since so many people on the right depend on Fox to spoon feed them with pre-assembled conclusions, but deduction is a way of finding those conclusions based on available evidence.
JFlorio wrote:
As far as the child comment goes. Consider the source. You’ve lost this battle, move on.
Uh-huh... well, I know what THAT means, LOL. Better luck next time.