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Dec 1, 2019 20:45:24   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Fodaoson wrote:
all the sexual lies and that the children are not natural,


Brought from Morocco at ~age 1 and 3.
Those people aren't their handlers!

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Dec 1, 2019 20:59:31   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Djin wrote:
The right did horrible things to Obama , Michelle and their children.


My bad, sorry!
The one with the grand parents is so sweet!

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Dec 1, 2019 21:10:05   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
bilordinary wrote:
My bad, sorry!
The one with the grand parents is so sweet!

www.welt.de%2Fimg%2Fenglish-news%2Fmobile101817512%2F7452509827-ci102l-w1024%2Fbarack-obama-grandparents-BM-Bayern-NEW-YORK-jpg.jpg&action=click" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=obama+with+grandparents&fr=yhs-sz-001&hspart=sz&hsimp=yhs-001&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpearlsofprofundity.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F12%2Fbarack-obama-with-grandparents.jpg#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fimg%2Fenglish-news%2Fmobile101817512%2F7452509827-ci102l-w1024%2Fbarack-obama-grandparents-BM-Bayern-NEW-YORK-jpg.jpg&action=click


I still think he favors X more than Davis. MHO

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Dec 1, 2019 21:22:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Fodaoson wrote:
all the sexual lies and that the children are not natural,


Yep

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Dec 1, 2019 22:09:48   #
Djin
 
Your new god admitted it was a birther lie.

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Dec 1, 2019 22:13:56   #
Rose42
 
woodguru wrote:
First, here is the corroboration of what I've said for years...that the religiously oriented right treats politics just like they do their religious beliefs, they form their beliefs and no degree of truth or facts will change those beliefs.

This list was a well written list of the tactics a believer uses when defending beliefs...

...the "leftist" is debating facts as opposed to beliefs, and facts are always subject to being corrected, especially with an incoming array of constantly growing facts.

The right winger on the other hand, forms beliefs immediately upon a scandal breaking, these beliefs being formed along party line loyalties. They will immediately pronounce it as fake news drummed up by a deep state and promoted by a corrupt and fake news...of course Hannity and others at FOX will provide the rhetoric and talking points that will prevail even though new facts constantly emerge. No facts, no matter how well sourced or corroborated will detract from the original beliefs.
First, here is the corroboration of what I've said... (show quote)


The OP applies to left and right. Your assertion is patently ridiculous.

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Dec 2, 2019 11:51:57   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Djin wrote:
Your new god admitted it was a birther lie.


All conservatives have had only one God and no other, so I don't get your reference. Please state the true facts! I believe some on the right have made illegitimate accusation's that were not correct but not all of us believe what you have said but no one has produced any proof beyond a doubt to help either side, as of yet. So that theory is still in doubt.

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Dec 2, 2019 14:03:41   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Louie27 wrote:
All conservatives have had only one God and no other, so I don't get your reference. Please state the true facts! I believe some on the right have made illegitimate accusation's that were not correct but not all of us believe what you have said but no one has produced any proof beyond a doubt to help either side, as of yet. So that theory is still in doubt.


On the BC thing.
There were two independent studies done, one in Italy the other in the US.
The source document, Obama's BC, was found to be fraudulent.
The last word on this is;
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/310677-arpaio-holds-press-conference-to-question-authenticity-of-obamas-birth

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Dec 3, 2019 13:27:16   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
bilordinary wrote:
On the BC thing.
There were two independent studies done, one in Italy the other in the US.
The source document, Obama's BC, was found to be fraudulent.
The last word on this is;
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/310677-arpaio-holds-press-conference-to-question-authenticity-of-obamas-birth


You could be very correct. The Hawaiian government hasn't let anyone from the outside see the records. That leaves one to be very suspect of their motives for not allowing others to see the birth records. just seem shady to me.

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Dec 6, 2019 10:26:03   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
[quote=woodguru]These tactics are actually the tactics used when denying and obfuscating facts and reality by people who have already made up their minds. such as leftists do constantly. (Fixed it!)

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Dec 6, 2019 10:51:24   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
woodguru wrote:
First, here is the corroboration of what I've said for years...that the religiously oriented right treats politics just like they do their religious beliefs, they form their beliefs and no degree of truth or facts will change those beliefs.

This list was a well written list of the tactics a believer uses when defending beliefs...

...the "leftist" is debating facts as opposed to beliefs, and facts are always subject to being corrected, especially with an incoming array of constantly growing facts.

The right winger on the other hand, forms beliefs immediately upon a scandal breaking, these beliefs being formed along party line loyalties. They will immediately pronounce it as fake news drummed up by a deep state and promoted by a corrupt and fake news...of course Hannity and others at FOX will provide the rhetoric and talking points that will prevail even though new facts constantly emerge. No facts, no matter how well sourced or corroborated will detract from the original beliefs.
First, here is the corroboration of what I've said... (show quote)

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I have no idea what you mean by rightists debating beliefs not facts! If anything it is the other way around! Actually, Most rightists are Christians, who take truths very seriously, since it is one of the Ten Commandments.

Over the years till today there are many scientists who are also Christians, and they wouldn't last long in that profession if only working on or with beliefs and not also a robust and in-depth basis in logic, facts and mathematics. Your long-standing idea is absurd!

Perhaps you are projecting your own failure tactics onto rightists, accusing them of precisely what you do on a regular basis.

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Dec 14, 2019 10:55:14   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
manning5 wrote:
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I have no idea what you mean by rightists debating beliefs not facts! If anything it is the other way around! Actually, Most rightists are Christians, who take truths very seriously, since it is one of the Ten Commandments.

Over the years till today there are many scientists who are also Christians, and they wouldn't last long in that profession if only working on or with beliefs and not also a robust and in-depth basis in logic, facts and mathematics. Your long-standing idea is absurd!

Perhaps you are projecting your own failure tactics onto rightists, accusing them of precisely what you do on a regular basis.
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Addendum:

If you are an honest rightist, you need to look out for the dishonest leftist's tactics. If you are a dishonest rightist, you would be glad to have additional insight into available tactics.

Then, too, if you are an honest leftist, knowing the signs of false tactics is a plus. If you are a dishonest leftist, you already know and practice these tactics.

Basically honest people have no need for such tactics: they speak the truth.
If you identify dishonest tactics being used, stop right there and leave. There is no point in trying to prove them wrong, or to convince them you are right.

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