ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Remember when Syria was a hot topic, and many here on OPP were savaging Assad for brutalizing his population with gas attacks. The US and NATO countries immediately concluded Assad was the guilty party, and began missile attacks on the Syria regime. Even though it was pretty obvious that Assad was winning the war, and gas attacks were counterproductive, many continued to believe the MSM narrative.

So now, as the truth begins leaking out, slowly, and gradually, where is the indignation and outrage that we had been fooled and manipulated into supporting a war against the Syrian population, that was a calculated fabrication that continues on to this day.

Read the article, and listen to the video. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mainstream-policy-expert-reveals-how-he-was-silenced-syria-truth-did-not-matter

https://youtu.be/SMSyLg1E49M

The next time there is a Democratic party debate, ask yourself why no one other than Tulsi Gabbard is talking about "Foreign Wars", injured US troops, and the never ending war machine that is US Foreign policy.

How many of you realize that you are being distracted by stupid side issues like the fake "Russiagate", and the "Quid pro Quo" impeachment narrative, the SJW and LGBT controversies, and all the other side issues being used to divide us and keep us from demanding change on the really important issues?

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I never believed Bashar Assad used poison gas on anyone. The man is a medical doctor, an eye surgeon, trained in Britain.

Bashar Hafez al-Assad has been the President of Syria since 17 July 2000. In addition, he is commander-in-chief of the Syrian Armed Forces and Regional Secretary of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party's branch in Syria. This was not his life choice. His father, Hafez al-Assad, was President/Dictator of Syria from 1971 to 2000.

Bashar went to medical school in U.K. and became an eye surgeon. When his elder brother, Bassel died in a car crash in 1994, he was called back to Syria, and prepared to take his father's place as ruler of Syria. In 2000, he assumed power after his father's death.

The Assad family had always protected the minority religions in the country. ISIS murdered hundreds of thouands of Christians and other minorities, and most of the rest fled the country while ISIS controlled a large portion of Syria, and Barack Obama did nothing.

Lonewolf

Good post

Sew_What

To refute you about "the truth" lets consider the whistleblower, here are a few points to consider.

The whistleblower—or “whistleblower” if you prefer—filed a complaint with the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (ICIG), claiming to have it on good authority that President Trump had attempted to coerce Ukrainian President Zelenskyy into providing dirt on his (Trump’s) highest-polling political opponent for the 2020 presidential election, that he predicated continuation of foreign aid to Ukraine on that act from Zelesky, and that the White House had then attempted to conceal that evidence by placing the notes from the conversation on a server reserved for sensitive information:

-Donald Trump, the president, confirmed the whistleblower’s account. ??????
-Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, confirmed the whistleblower’s account. ??????
-Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House Chief of Staff, confirmed the whistleblower’s account. ??????
-Fiona Hill, the former top White House Russia advisor, confirmed the whistleblower’s account.
-Michael McKinley, former top aide to the Secretary of State, confirmed the whistleblower’s account.
-Gordon D. Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the EU, confirmed the whistleblower’s account.
-William Taylor, the senior U.S. diplomatic official in Ukraine, confirmed the whistleblower’s account.
-Laura Cooper, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia, confirmed the whistleblower’s account.
-Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security Council’s head of European Affairs, confirmed the whistleblower’s account. What did he lie about?

All of the above are facts.

Now with those in mind, let me answer your question by posing some other questions to consider.

1. What does “there is not an actual whistleblower accusing President Trump” even mean? Clearly, someone filed the complaint with the IGIC, who deemed it credible. Someone also wrote a letter outlining the complaint to Sen. Burr and Rep. Schiff. (We’ve all seen the letter.) Whoever wrote that letter is the whistleblower. If it was actually Schiff who wrote it, or actually the IGIC who wrote it, then that person is a whistleblower.
2. If “there is not an actual whistleblower accusing President Trump,” then so what? Who wrote the letter, and who filed the complaint, and indeed whether anyone did, is at this point irrelevant. The credibility of the “whistleblower’s” claims is not in question: His claims have not only been confirmed, they have been confirmed by the president himself. There is no longer any hearsay: Lt. Col. Vindman was listening in on the president’s call with Zelenskyy and agrees with what the whistleblower says about it. (For that matter, the summary of the call that the president himself released also agrees with what the whistleblower says about it.)

So to summarize: it’s awfully hard to make a case that a whistleblower doesn’t exist, and if they don’t, it doesn’t matter, because everything that non-person said has been proven true several times over.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

I think we are talking about two completely different whistleblower situations. If you don't know what I am talking about here, take 7 minutes to listen to the journalist Dan Cohen: https://twitter.com/IntheNow_tweet/status/1199838248819924992/video/1

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Then you, me, and Eagleye13 are exactly on the same page.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

But you have failed to state that all of the witness's, that Schiff had before the American public, have said they didn't think the President committed any crime. That is only a false allegation by the left and you that hasn't been proven at all. Just supposition on your part and the radical left and lying Schiff.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Thanks for this, it shows me that not only does Hillary use "the watch the bauble" concept.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

I agree with you Louie, Assad is one thing (and we did see the poison gas going to his people, whether it was him is the question) the Dems are another. They've had 4 investigations, in the impeachment farce nobody could clearly say that they'd seen any crime. At best they don't like Trump's style. We didn't elect him to be a fashion-plate or to be like Mike Pence God forbid.

Djin

I watched the hearings,they all said that he DID commit a crime.He committed Extortion and Bribery.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

No! They assumed he had committed a crime not actually said he had. Please get you quotes correct and quit listening to the far out left. They seem to lead you by the nose and ears, not logical thinking.