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Nov 30, 2019 06:27:16   #
F.D.R.
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wants-to-designate-mexican-drug-cartels-as-terror-organizations

They are as bad as ISIS,so why not to declare them as terrorist organization????


He should include the A.C.L.U. and the Democrat Party.

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Nov 30, 2019 07:09:37   #
Big Kahuna
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wants-to-designate-mexican-drug-cartels-as-terror-organizations

They are as bad as ISIS,so why not to declare them as terrorist organization????


I say Trump should add a few more names to the terrorist list like the Demorat party, Hollyweird, the Clinton Cartel the Ovommit regime and the corrupt major media.

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Nov 30, 2019 07:10:00   #
Big Kahuna
 
F.D.R. wrote:
He should include the A.C.L.U. and the Democrat Party.


I agree.

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Nov 30, 2019 09:03:40   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
proud republican wrote:
Did you forget what happened to American family on the way to the wedding?? They were ambushed and murdered including 6 children !!! That is the only one example out of thousands where cartels kill innocent people who accidently cross their path! They also behead and cut their victims just like ISIS does!!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/11/27/family-mexico-ambush-victims-see-terrorist-designation-reality/4323706002/


Good morning PR. I'm not disagreeing with you or CD. You are correct in that the cartels use the same techniques to generate terror in their competition. ISIS may roast you over a fire while a cartel may fillet a man alive...both create terror. But as Canukcus said, the motives are different.
ISIS is NOT looking to make any money from terrorist acts, while cartels commit the terrorist acts to protect their ability to make money. One is political and the other is greed.
The act of murdering that family the other day sent this message out...we will do whatever to whomever that gets in our way.

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Nov 30, 2019 11:32:16   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry... I disagree...

People are responsible for their decisions..And the consequences...

The cartels don't want customer to die...

They were them to lead long, productive lives and buy lots of their products...

Kind of like tobacco and alcohol suppliers...

Legalize drugs nd the cartels lose their power...

Not so with ISIS
Sorry... I disagree... br br People are responsib... (show quote)


One question for you. How do you know what they want? When they cut this poison with a deadly narcotic, they don't do it to keep them from taking this drug.

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Nov 30, 2019 11:50:31   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Their goals are different...


The cartel absolutely does terrorize anyone it can.

Our home turf drug dealing terrorists have citizens in fear for their lives too.

Methamphetamine and heroin/fentanyl are destroying otherwise good people.

When President Trump was first elected, the question of execution of major drug dealers was being discussed.

Execute high level domestic and foreign drug terrorists.

Hamas smuggled billions in cocaine across our southern border, with the assistance of Mexican drug cartels.

What would be your first guess as to what Hamas used the drug money for.

The cartels have terrorized relatives of lower level drug dealers, and make the innocent pay for the relatives drug debt.

The cartels are absolutely terrorist organizations and they "wholeblackheartily" support any other terrorist organizations bent on the ruin of our Republic.

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Nov 30, 2019 11:54:04   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wants-to-designate-mexican-drug-cartels-as-terror-organizations

They are as bad as ISIS,so why not to declare them as terrorist organization????


Amen and Amen

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Nov 30, 2019 12:17:45   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry... I disagree...

People are responsible for their decisions..And the consequences...

The cartels don't want customer to die...

They were them to lead long, productive lives and buy lots of their products...

Kind of like tobacco and alcohol suppliers...

Legalize drugs nd the cartels lose their power...

Not so with ISIS
Sorry... I disagree... br br People are responsib... (show quote)


Where do the cartels get their fentanyl from? Most likely China, who mailed it straight to Americans but now has to send it to Americans via cartels. Looks like the cartels are working for China to me. Mexican presidents have always been corrupt and now most of their mayors, military, and cops are too. All are involved in the cartels and their people are leaving any way they can legally or illegally. Then most become a tax burden for Americans. Send them home so they have to fight for their nation or die trying. The next move in Mexico is civil war and then to invade America with Chinese weapons.

We need the military on the border and declaring the cartels as a terrorist organization is how it will be done. The wall is going up but not fast enough thanks to Dems, who want the US to go under. Just read Kev's posts, he is a diehard Commie or Marxist and is the perfect poster child of what they want. Russia tried taking over America without firing a shot by taking over the media, Hollywood, universities, colleges, unions, and the churches... didn't work. Now it looks like China is taking the lead. Russia's economy is about the same as Italy's and isn't a threat.

Tariffs are kicking China's butt and banks are beginning to fail for the first time ever. The plague has claimed its fourth victim in China and if it moves to the lungs it could begin to spread like wildfire. Their pork supply was wiped by the African Swine Flu virus and they had to buy pork from us. If they didn't eradicate the virus it will soon infect the new hogs. China is beginning to feel the fallout for messing with God's children and now they are messing with Allah's kids. This isn't going to end well for China. So what do communists do when they start to lose? They kill their own people to keep control.

The Christians don't like being persecuted and neither do the Muslims. Neither does Taiwan or Hong Kong or nations that need the South China Sea to be open for free navigation and trade which is most of Asia. China is scaring everyone by trying to take total control with its manmade military islands and buying up ports.

Sending fentanyl to the US through Mexico is the last straw. President Trump is about to rachet up China's pain if they don't stop misbehaving. China is also trying to take over Africa so I expect the first brush fires to start there. Africans don't like Chinese companies moving in but not hiring any Africans, not nice and openly racist while taking their natural resources. Karma is about ready to strike China hard in my opinion. I'd scoot if I were you, I think civil unrest is about to break out on the mainland, especially if more banks fail. Chinese like being middle class and don't want to return to the bad, poor, old days. The days of robbing the US are over. Our jobs are returning and leaving China. If the Asian nations start pulling out and moving their businesses to the US, China is in serious trouble. The UK is about to get some great trade deals with the US and when others see it they will follow. Trump is a genius, the die is cast, no turning back.

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Nov 30, 2019 12:22:18   #
bahmer
 
Peewee wrote:
Where do the cartels get their fentanyl from? Most likely China, who mailed it straight to Americans but now has to send it to Americans via cartels. Looks like the cartels are working for China to me. Mexican presidents have always been corrupt and now most of their mayors, military, and cops are too. All are involved in the cartels and their people are leaving any way they can legally or illegally. Then most become a tax burden for Americans. Send them home so they have to fight for their nation or die trying. The next move in Mexico is civil war and then to invade America with Chinese weapons.

We need the military on the border and declaring the cartels as a terrorist organization is how it will be done. The wall is going up but not fast enough thanks to Dems, who want the US to go under. Just read Kev's posts, he is a diehard Commie or Marxist and is the perfect poster child of what they want. Russia tried taking over America without firing a shot by taking over the media, Hollywood, universities, colleges, unions, and the churches... didn't work. Now it looks like China is taking the lead. Russia's economy is about the same as Italy's and isn't a threat.

Tariffs are kicking China's butt and banks are beginning to fail for the first time ever. The plague has claimed its fourth victim in China and if it moves to the lungs it could begin to spread like wildfire. Their pork supply was wiped by the African Swine Flu virus and they had to buy pork from us. If they didn't eradicate the virus it will soon infect the new hogs. China is beginning to feel the fallout for messing with God's children and now they are messing with Allah's kids. This isn't going to end well for China. So what do communists do when they start to lose? They kill their own people to keep control.

The Christians don't like being persecuted and neither do the Muslims. Neither does Taiwan or Hong Kong or nations that need the South China Sea to be open for free navigation and trade which is most of Asia. China is scaring everyone by trying to take total control with its manmade military islands and buying up ports.

Sending fentanyl to the US through Mexico is the last straw. President Trump is about to rachet up China's pain if they don't stop misbehaving. China is also trying to take over Africa so I expect the first brush fires to start there. Africans don't like Chinese companies moving in but not hiring any Africans, not nice and openly racist while taking their natural resources. Karma is about ready to strike China hard in my opinion. I'd scoot if I were you, I think civil unrest is about to break out on the mainland, especially if more banks fail. Chinese like being middle class and don't want to return to the bad, poor, old days. The days of robbing the US are over. Our jobs are returning and leaving China. If the Asian nations start pulling out and moving their businesses to the US, China is in serious trouble. The UK is about to get some great trade deals with the US and when others see it they will follow. Trump is a genius, the die is cast, no turning back.
Where do the cartels get their fentanyl from? Most... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Nov 30, 2019 12:22:46   #
okie don
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Terror: a state of intense or overwhelming fear.

What you are saying then is that an individual or group of individuals who commit violence against innocent people must have a political or religious objective before the victims can experience intense or overwhelming fear. IOW, they are not terrorized if the perps have no political or religious motivations. You are in effect employing the postmodern philosophy that words and actions can mean whatever you want them to mean, or that they mean nothing at all.

WARNING, graphic photos of drug cartel victims
i Terror: a state of intense or overwhelming fear... (show quote)

Never seen pics like these...
Really horrible in Mexico.

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Nov 30, 2019 12:35:03   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
"Admittedly, the cartels lack the motivating political or religious ideology most terrorist groups display, and some argue this precludes the application of the "terrorist" label."

That's me...


I agree with you but I wanted to point out that although cartels aren't interested in changing governments ,when El Chapo ,Guzman was on trial ,he did mention all the politicians whose campaigns he contributed large amounts of money to, American politicians. That's when they quit televising the trial

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Nov 30, 2019 14:38:52   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Their goals are different...


When you really look into it they are the same, power and control, but the main thing..kill to accomplish it.

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Nov 30, 2019 14:42:25   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Not innocent Americans, persons who are freely participating in the “game “.


Innocent Americans get caught up in drugs, which can and often do kill them. Not to mention the cartels also have firefights with border patrol. Been there, shot them.

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Nov 30, 2019 14:47:50   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Getting addicted is a choice.


That is where you make a mistake. To some in the inner cities opiods, or shooting up is peer pressure. Opioids kills the pain of whatever, I know my brother's in a lot of pain and I have to talk to him daily to keep him off them. Oxycodon while it sucks and has its own bad side effects is nothing like opioids.

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Nov 30, 2019 14:57:04   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you defending the drug cartels? Good grief, an average of 70,000 young Americans die every year from overdoses, primarily Opioids. Fentanyl is cheap and easy to manufacture, it is 100 times more addictive than Morphine, it is also more lethal in small doses.

The scary thing is that pharmaceutical fentanyl was developed for pain management treatment of cancer patients, applied in a patch on the skin. Because of its powerful opioid properties, Fentanyl is also diverted for abuse. Fentanyl is added to heroin to increase its potency, or be disguised as highly potent heroin. Many users believe that they are purchasing heroin and actually don’t know that they are purchasing fentanyl – which often results in overdose deaths. Clandestinely-produced fentanyl is primarily manufactured in Mexico.

The cartels are spiking street drugs like cocaine and meth with Fentanyl in order to hook unsuspecting users more quickly, and it is killing thousands.

There is no comparison between the addictive characteristics of alcohol and tobacco and that of Opioids in all forms.
Are you defending the drug cartels? Good grief, an... (show quote)


There is no defense for the cartels, but I don't think that's what they were doing. Did you see the peer pressure in the RN's post and escape from pain in one of mine? Those are a couple of the reasons that they go to street drugs but they NEVER expect them to have the added kick of fentanyl. Some idiot doctors gave it to me when I broke my hip. It was unnecessary, my pain threshold is pretty high. I immediately felt dizzy and hot. Luckily it passed through me quickly.

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