permafrost Loc: Minnesota

each time we have a conversation about the wall, which has a total of zero new miles, 76 repaired miles and less then one mile built by a private party, the wall supporters insist that trump and therefore they fully support legal immigration and we need to mind what they say.. and trump would never lie..

But what is the truth?

with what seems like a never ending effort, changing of information, paper work and the true status becomes very much a formidable paper wall to those legal immigrants who trump claims to be valuable immigrants desired by the nation


some facts on the further results of the real reprobate in the oval office..


In the two years after Trump took office, denials for H1Bs, the most common form of visa for skilled workers, more than doubled. In the same period, wait times for citizenship also doubled, while average processing times for all kinds of visas jumped by 46 percent, even as the quantity of applications went down. In 2018, the United States added just 200,000 immigrants to the population, a startling 70 percent less than the year before.

Before Trump was elected, there was virtually no support within either party for policies that make it harder for foreigners to come here legally. For decades, the Republican consensus has favored tough border security along with high levels of legal immigration. The party’s small restrictionist wing protested from the margins, but it was no match for a pro-immigration coalition encompassing business interests, unions and minority groups. In 2013, then-Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions introduced an amendment that would have lowered the number of people who qualified for green cards and work visas. It got a single vote in committee—his own. As a former senior official at the Department of Homeland Security observed, “If you told me these guys would be able to change the way the U.S. does immigration in two years, I would have laughed.”

Liberty Tree

The real myth is that Democrats do not support illegal immigration.

Kevyn

The only immigrants the republicans want are white folks from North Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

Dwight Logan

You say that there is a myth that democrats go not support illegal immigration. That is a myth because they do support it.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Could that be because they assimilate, want to become Americans and are educated. Heaven forbid we want people that want our values.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

You seem to be more racist than most progressives.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

How revealing, you racist pig!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Progressives are racist. Kevy’s just dumb enough to show it.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Yes, we must only want the ones who want to subvert our values!

Airforceone

For 35 years the republicans only talk about immigration laws when a democrat is in Office or during the campaign cycle If Trump supporters ever read the comprehensive immigration reform bill sponsored by Obama passed in the senate on a bi-partisan vote and then blocked by Boehner in the house maybe they would understand what democrats firmly believe and it’s not open borders.
Trump supporters refuse to read legislation.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The left is filled with racists who see phantom racism in every nook and cranny.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

With all of the illegal's entering our country each year we should cut immigration some where. since the Dems don't seem to want to control our borders to reduce the number of illegals and refugee entrants the number has to be cut some where. The Dems talk about climate change being an immediate thing but fail to realize that more people in this country only contributes to climate change for this country. But that thought is far from the minds of the Dems they only want power and control of you me and all Americans. That is my opinion at this time.

Liberty Tree

True, that was my point.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Good lord I just stepped into bizarro world. We agree. Establishment Republicans have lied to their constituents fo decades. They care about cheap labor. The Chamber Commerce of Commerce has quietly turned very liberal. As far as that bill goes you don’t read everything. You cherry-pick what you want others to see.

Seth

I hate to break it to you, there, Kevyn, but for several decades now it's been infinitely more difficult for white folks from western countries to immigrate to the United States than it's been for people from non-white third world countries.

Therefore, the bulk by far of immigrants to America have been non-whites from third world countries.