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Nov 25, 2019 19:17:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Back in the 80's we all knew Russia was listening in on our hard line phones. We didn't have cell phones of the internet back then. And it was just accepted and they knew we were doing the same.

It's the ones you don't know about that you have to worry about!


Yep

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Nov 25, 2019 20:24:10   #
PeterS
 
slatten49 wrote:
By Jennifer Rubin. Mrs. Rubin is an American neoconservative journalist who writes the "Right Turn" blog for The Washington Post. Previously she worked at Commentary, PJ Media, Human Events, and The Weekly Standard. Her work has been published in media outlets including Politico, New York Post, New York Daily News, National Review, and The Jerusalem Post.
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When listening to President Trump and fellow Republicans throw around accusations against Democrats and the media or advance defenses for Trump’s impeachable conduct, there is a better than even chance they are misleading if not downright lying. In some cases, we discover the lies because other individuals are caught lying.

Roger Stone was convicted, among other things, of lying to Congress about his conversations with WikiLeaks’s Julian Assange. He falsely claimed: He had no emails, documents or texts relating to WikiLeaks; he never sought damaging information (i.e., emails) about Hillary Clinton; never contacted WikiLeaks through intermediaries; and never contacted the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks. The last lie — denying contacts with the Trump campaign — raises the question as to whether President Trump lied in responses to Robert S. Mueller II.

At the trial we learned about Stone’s numerous contacts with the campaign: Rick Gates, who served as Trump’s deputy campaign chairman, testified Tuesday that Stone began discussing Clinton leaks with the campaign in April 2016 and that from May onward Gates understood Stone to be the campaign’s intermediary with WikiLeaks. By July 2016, Gates testified, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said he was updating Trump and others regularly and directed Gates to keep following up with Stone. After Trump ended one phone call from Stone at the end of that month, Gates testified, the future president said to Gates that “more information would be coming.”

In his written answers, however, Trump claimed he had “no recollection” of conversations with Stone about WikiLeaks nor did he recall knowing Stone had discussed WikiLeaks’s email drops with the campaign. Perhaps Trump’s memory is addled; if not, it appears he lied to Mueller.

Likewise, in the Ukraine matter multiple witnesses gave testimony that suggests that Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland has been telling falsehoods under oath. Some he has remedied, such as his initial statement that he had not communicated to the Ukrainians that military aid was dependent upon their opening an investigation into the Bidens. However, we now know from at least one other witness that Sondland’s denial that he spoke to the president or to the State Department was false. (He spoke to both.) One wonders if he’ll share a similar fate as Stone, the former Trump confidant who this week was found guilty on charges of lying to Congress, obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:

Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)

Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .

The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .

Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)

Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when Hunter Biden was still under investigation.

House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our election, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.

On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.

At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)

Trump also spoke to Sondland about the investigations, according to testimony, and in one instance was overheard by multiple State Department staffers. (Other officials testify that Sondland repeatedly claimed he was acting on Trump’s behalf and directly conditioned aid on the Biden investigation.)

Republicans’ lies are so numerous and obvious that one requires only a minimal amount of fact-checking to see that they lie because they have no truthful factual defenses nor valid constitutional argument. The facts are the facts: Trump conditioned aid to an ally in a war for its sovereignty on production of dirt to smear a political rival. He has refused to allow key witnesses to produce documents or to testify, thereby obstructing Congress. He has sought to intimidate and threaten witnesses including the whistleblower and Marie Yovanovitch, sending out the message you will be targeted and smeared if you provide evidence against him.

As for the Constitution, we know that “bribery,” enumerated as one of the grounds for impeachment in the parlance of the Framers, includes asking for or giving personal favors in exchange for political acts. That is precisely what occurred here. Obstruction and witness intimidation are obviously "high crimes."

House Republicans have become so invested in crackpot theories, bogus procedural complaints and constitutional illiteracy that they will never recognize the president’s wrongdoing. They are as incapable of upholding their oath, which requires impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors or bribery, as he is. Both Trump and his House enablers are unfit to serve since personal and political considerations obliterate their ability to detect the truth and thereby to uphold their public obligations. It would be refreshing if House Republicans simply admitted Trump violated his oath but that they are unwilling to abide by theirs and remove him. The candor would be preferable to the non-stop lying.

It remains an open question as to whether Senate Republicans are willing to ignore and distort reality so as to avoid voting to convict a president of their own party. Unfortunately, we find it highly unlikely that more than a few (if that many) would concede that Trump and the right-wing echo chamber that protects him have been spinning a web of lies for nearly three years.
By Jennifer Rubin. Mrs. Rubin is an American neoc... (show quote)

Lying is the only way conservatives can defend Trump and through that defense maintain their hold on power. And power, unfortunately, seems to be the only thing today's conservatives think about.

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Nov 25, 2019 21:18:35   #
Mikeyavelli
 
emarine wrote:
A bit here & there... enough to keep me warm & well fed for a while... but I still work most of the time when I'm off the boat... I'm a capitalist what can I say...


I say, Great!

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Nov 25, 2019 21:52:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Lying is the only way conservatives can defend Trump and through that defense maintain their hold on power. And power, unfortunately, seems to be the only thing today's conservatives think about.


So you're saying Schiff doesn't actually know who the whistle blower is and didn't lie about it? Vindman too? That a favor IS a demand? That this process has been fair and balanced? That a president CAN be impeached based upon second and third hand info? That the president DOESN'T set foreign policy? That there is nothing corrupt going on between the Biden's and Burisma? That Ukraine did not help Hillary? That the FISA judge was not lied to? That Trump really did all the things on the Steel Dossier? That it wasn't paid for by the DNC/Clinton campaign? That Comey, McCabe and Strzok acted unbiasedly? That y'all aren't unhinged??

That what you're saying??

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Nov 25, 2019 21:58:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So you're saying Schiff doesn't actually know who the whistle blower is and didn't lie about it? Vindman too? That a favor IS a demand? That this process has been fair and balanced? That a president CAN be impeached based upon second and third hand info? That the president DOESN'T set foreign policy? That there is nothing corrupt going on between the Biden's and Burisma? That Ukraine did not help Hillary? That the FISA judge was not lied to? That Trump really did all the things on the Steel Dossier? That it wasn't paid for by the DNC/Clinton campaign? That Comey, McCabe and Strzok acted unbiasedly? That y'all aren't unhinged??

That what you're saying??
So you're saying Schiff doesn't actually know who ... (show quote)

Nailed it!
That's what he is saying.

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Nov 26, 2019 00:08:09   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
Lying is the only way conservatives can defend Trump and through that defense maintain their hold on power. And power, unfortunately, seems to be the only thing today's conservatives think about.


Conservatives aren't the ones refusing to let go of the last Admins handle on governing. They aren't the ones who refuse to accept the results of the last election. Propagandize all you want but know the fool you represent yourself to be.

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Nov 26, 2019 09:58:38   #
moldyoldy
 
JW wrote:
Conservatives aren't the ones refusing to let go of the last Admins handle on governing. They aren't the ones who refuse to accept the results of the last election. Propagandize all you want but know the fool you represent yourself to be.


This is not the first time we had to accept a bad election. The SCOTUS elected bush over gore, and the Russians elected trump.

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Nov 26, 2019 10:05:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This is not the first time we had to accept a bad election. The SCOTUS elected bush over gore, and the Russians elected trump.


Oh, you are sooo delusional, moldy.
The mold is starting to be more apparent by the week.

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Nov 26, 2019 11:05:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This is not the first time we had to accept a bad election. The SCOTUS elected bush over gore, and the Russians elected trump.


Aren't you enjoying all the free vodka and caviar?

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Nov 26, 2019 23:00:32   #
JW
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This is not the first time we had to accept a bad election. The SCOTUS elected bush over gore, and the Russians elected trump.


So, when are you going to accept it?

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Dec 4, 2019 05:40:43   #
promilitary
 
I didn't get past Washington Post.

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Dec 4, 2019 07:26:04   #
Cuda2020
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So you're saying Schiff doesn't actually know who the whistle blower is and didn't lie about it? Vindman too? That a favor IS a demand? That this process has been fair and balanced? That a president CAN be impeached based upon second and third hand info? That the president DOESN'T set foreign policy? That there is nothing corrupt going on between the Biden's and Burisma? That Ukraine did not help Hillary? That the FISA judge was not lied to? That Trump really did all the things on the Steel Dossier? That it wasn't paid for by the DNC/Clinton campaign? That Comey, McCabe and Strzok acted unbiasedly? That y'all aren't unhinged??

That what you're saying??
So you're saying Schiff doesn't actually know who ... (show quote)


Where did Schiff lie about it? He said he was going to protect his personal identity. All the whistleblower does is raise a red flag for people to check into, and that's just what happened and it proved to all be true. We know this by the phone recordings, testimonies and admissions from Mulvaney and Trump himself, what more do you want? That is way more information than third party info.

We also have direct information from people on the line. e can have more validation if Trump allowed others to testified, but he didn't rather he obstructed the facts to come out, why do you think he's done that? Because he's innocent? Try and get real with yourself and your denial. It's not about the man it's about our country, country first right?

And a president can be impeached cavorting with a foreign country against our constitutional laws. For also subverting and obstructing justice, what they got Nixon for and let's not forget lying, what they got Clinton for. So yeah, there are very valid reasons for the impeachment of this dishonorable president.

No, the president doesn't set foreign policy without congresses approval.

This is not about Biden, this is about Trump, where was Trump three years ago to investigate Hunter Biden, or Joe, which they've already been cleared of and debunked.

Trump, on the other hand, yes did do the things he's been accused of.

Comey was doing his job when investigating Hillary and when he revealed Trump and was then let go, just as Mueller, McCabe and Peter Strzok, come on are you kidding here? His guilt is laughable.
You're still buying the poor victim that Trump constantly whines about, at this point is a complete farce just like Trump, what don't you get? Why be one of those people who would stand on 5th Avenue screaming his innocence after he committed murder???

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Dec 4, 2019 10:12:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Where did Schiff lie about it? He said he was going to protect his personal identity. All the whistleblower does is raise a red flag for people to check into, and that's just what happened and it proved to all be true. We know this by the phone recordings, testimonies and admissions from Mulvaney and Trump himself, what more do you want? That is way more information than third party info.

We also have direct information from people on the line. e can have more validation if Trump allowed others to testified, but he didn't rather he obstructed the facts to come out, why do you think he's done that? Because he's innocent? Try and get real with yourself and your denial. It's not about the man it's about our country, country first right?

And a president can be impeached cavorting with a foreign country against our constitutional laws. For also subverting and obstructing justice, what they got Nixon for and let's not forget lying, what they got Clinton for. So yeah, there are very valid reasons for the impeachment of this dishonorable president.

No, the president doesn't set foreign policy without congresses approval.

This is not about Biden, this is about Trump, where was Trump three years ago to investigate Hunter Biden, or Joe, which they've already been cleared of and debunked.

Trump, on the other hand, yes did do the things he's been accused of.

Comey was doing his job when investigating Hillary and when he revealed Trump and was then let go, just as Mueller, McCabe and Peter Strzok, come on are you kidding here? His guilt is laughable.
You're still buying the poor victim that Trump constantly whines about, at this point is a complete farce just like Trump, what don't you get? Why be one of those people who would stand on 5th Avenue screaming his innocence after he committed murder???
Where did Schiff lie about it? He said he was goin... (show quote)


A refresher for Bacaruda and others that are still in the dark;

Who has paid attention to what the CIA, FBI and Justice Department had been up to?
AMERICA’S CORRUPTION CLUB Let’s get back on the trail……
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/americas-corruption-club-lets-follow-the-trail/
ALL DOTS CONNECTED…Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests … Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL…
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this is still not being exposed
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we had a soft coup attempt.

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Dec 4, 2019 10:52:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Where did Schiff lie about it? He said he was going to protect his personal identity. All the whistleblower does is raise a red flag for people to check into, and that's just what happened and it proved to all be true. We know this by the phone recordings, testimonies and admissions from Mulvaney and Trump himself, what more do you want? That is way more information than third party info.

We also have direct information from people on the line. e can have more validation if Trump allowed others to testified, but he didn't rather he obstructed the facts to come out, why do you think he's done that? Because he's innocent? Try and get real with yourself and your denial. It's not about the man it's about our country, country first right?

And a president can be impeached cavorting with a foreign country against our constitutional laws. For also subverting and obstructing justice, what they got Nixon for and let's not forget lying, what they got Clinton for. So yeah, there are very valid reasons for the impeachment of this dishonorable president.

No, the president doesn't set foreign policy without congresses approval.

This is not about Biden, this is about Trump, where was Trump three years ago to investigate Hunter Biden, or Joe, which they've already been cleared of and debunked.

Trump, on the other hand, yes did do the things he's been accused of.

Comey was doing his job when investigating Hillary and when he revealed Trump and was then let go, just as Mueller, McCabe and Peter Strzok, come on are you kidding here? His guilt is laughable.
You're still buying the poor victim that Trump constantly whines about, at this point is a complete farce just like Trump, what don't you get? Why be one of those people who would stand on 5th Avenue screaming his innocence after he committed murder???
Where did Schiff lie about it? He said he was goin... (show quote)


LOLOL! Are you not able to recall what has been said over and over again?

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Adam-Schiff-Denies-Knowing-Identity-Of-Whistleblower-Impeachment-Hearing-564856842.html

Also, foreign policy: Subject to the advice and consent role of the U.S. Senate, the President of the United States negotiates treaties with foreign nations, then treaties enter into force only if ratified by two-thirds of the Senate. The President is also Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces, and as such has broad authority over the armed forces. Both the Secretary of State and ambassadors are appointed by the President, with the advice and consent of the Senate. The United States Secretary of State acts similarly to a foreign minister and under Executive leadership is the primary conductor of state-to-state diplomacy.

Try to keep up barracuda.

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Dec 4, 2019 13:53:48   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
Conservatives aren't the ones refusing to let go of the last Admins handle on governing. They aren't the ones who refuse to accept the results of the last election. Propagandize all you want but know the fool you represent yourself to be.

Oh gosh, to be denigrated by a conservative--how unexpected.

1) We are being bashed right now for being Socialists and Communists for discussing the possibility of free college and a single-payer system. Obama left us with Obamacare and the most costly educational system in the world never proposing anything else. Biden isn't even the front runner anymore. If we were trying to continue Obama's legacy wouldn't the best way to do that be to support his vice president and maintain the Obama policies he represents?

2) You conservatives are married to Fox News, Breitbart, and every rightwing publication in print or video. Everything you listen to is based on opinion, logical fallacies, or outright lies. Don't accuse others of listening to propaganda when you won't listen to anything but.

3) When Trump was elected democrats were the minority and lacked the power to affect Trump. He was president and you held the majority in both houses. As for the investigation into Russia--Trump appointed Rosenstein as assistant attorney general. It was Rosenstein who then appointed Mueller. If Mueller was somehow a nefarious Democrat determined to overthrow Trump why didn't he manufacture the outcome to accomplish that? If Rosenstein was somehow a nefarious Democrat determined to overthrow Trump why didn't he give Mueller the tools and range to do so? Hell, it turned out that Mueller couldn't even investigate Trump's finances which means, from the beginning, Mueller's hands were tied when it came to investigating Trump.

If we were so determined to overthrow the election did we tell Trump to appoint Rosenstein so he could appoint Mueller? How did we do that...whisper in his ear while he ate his Big Mac?

As for Trumps' impeachment hearing. How did we make Trump ask Ukraine to investigate his political foe? Did we twist his arm late at night while he was tweeting out the garbage he is famous for?

Don't blame us because of 16 candidates you cons picked the very worst one and don't blame us because we are the only ones willing to do something about it.

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