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Nov 19, 2019 22:18:17   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
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I'm not sure that Bush Boy Barr is going to prosecute anyone in the Obama Clinton Cabal. But after the election, with a new Attorney General, a Republican House and Senate, the kommiecrats will be going to jail, or better.


The IG investigation has reportedly gone from fact finding to criminal referrals -- it's supposed to come out the 1st week in December.

That's one of the reasons Schitt the Weasel® is pushing his doomed-to-fail impeachment circus as hard as he is... He thinks it will matter.

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Nov 19, 2019 22:41:48   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
The IG investigation has reportedly gone from fact finding to criminal referrals -- it's supposed to come out the 1st week in December.

That's one of the reasons Schitt the Weasel® is pushing his doomed-to-fail impeachment circus as hard as he is... He thinks it will matter.


I have no doubt that the reports and referrals from Horowitz, Durham, Huber and Barr will be delayed again and again until the election. Then, they will have no duty to prosecute their pals in the Obama Clinton Cabal.
I don't trust anyone in the government save for Trump, Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes and possibly Mark Meadows. All else are suspect of being part of the coup.

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Nov 19, 2019 22:52:16   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I have no doubt that the reports and referrals from Horowitz, Durham, Huber and Barr will be delayed again and again until the election. Then, they will have no duty to prosecute their pals in the Obama Clinton Cabal.
I don't trust anyone in the government save for Trump, Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes and possibly Mark Meadows. All else are suspect of being part of the coup.


I'm still more optimistic, but time will tell.

Like you, I want to see every last one of those leftist traitors pay in full.

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Nov 20, 2019 00:28:25   #
at41
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Agreed. It started very long before while he was talking with Soros. Would you like to know what gave him away for me? His uniform. I was a witness in two cases pretty recently. I think one was in the papers and the other I think they paid to keep it out of them, each time I didn't wear my uniform, it isn't relevant. Only someone who wants to portray something he isn't flashes the uniform.


I remember Olie North wearing his Marine Corps uniform during the Regan Iran-Contra investigation. I have never been called on to respond to a congressional request but if I was and still on active duty I would most certainly proudly wear my uniform.

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Nov 20, 2019 06:44:48   #
Tug484
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, we are to believe that a lt/col cannot distinguish between and favor and a demand. My god, seriously??

My first impression of this guy this morning was that he was a dishonest climber with ambitions beyond his current post. My comment was that I had known guys like him and would not trust them behind me in any type of action. And make no mistake, this MoFo knows what the difference is between a favor and a demand. I am sure it was Schiff who gave him the excuse that in the military, no matter how nicely stated, it is a demand. How stupid! Certainly not where I served!

I believe, as do a lot of folks now, that Vindman was the source of the whistle blower complaint. Guys like this brag a lot, like Joe, and I can see him getting all over this "inappropriate" conversation with the eventual whistle blower. He's obviously a Trump hater. His expressions and his body language scream it to high heaven. I instantly picked up on the demon inside him. It truly gave me the chills this morning.

We can only speculate how Schiff got involved in all of this but he certainly knows who the whistle blower is and I can guarantee you, Schiff and Vindman have spoken prior to this morning and probably many other times on private lines.

But make no mistake, Vindman's lies to the whistle blower started this entire thing. I would imagine that if the whistle blower had actually seen the transcript of the call before listening to Vindman and making the complaint, that the whistle blower would not have made the complaint. He certainly HAD better hide his identity. Legally, he would be on the hook for slander and making a false complaint of the highest order; fraud of the congress and the entire USA.

And don't go counting out Pelosi as a major player in all this. She knows everything Schiff does.

When the entire democrat saga comes out, they will be lucky to still be a party. And don't think there are not at least a few repugs involved in this. And look out Obama, just look out.
Yes, we are to believe that a lt/col cannot distin... (show quote)

My impression was he thinks he runs things and shouldn't be under the orders of his president.
Also, he reminds me of a German soldier in his dress uniform.
Not impressed.

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Nov 20, 2019 07:57:09   #
rk
 
True to late to impeach but prison is still an option.

Prison
Prison...

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Nov 20, 2019 08:12:27   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
I'm still more optimistic, but time will tell.

Like you, I want to see every last one of those leftist traitors pay in full.


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I remember when April was the deadline for these investigations to publicly reveal the coup and prosecute the traitors.
Now, it's December.
It's always pushed ahead.

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Nov 20, 2019 08:56:57   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
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I remember when April was the deadline for these investigations to publicly reveal the coup and prosecute the traitors.
Now, it's December.
It's always pushed ahead.


Sometimes, when a stone is turned over, what they find unexpectedly leads to two or three new trails that need to be followed -- more people than previously known to be involved in something or a surprise series of text messages or emails, maybe they discover that subject A took a quiet one day trip to see subject C and it turns out that subject B also attended the meeting when he had previously testified he was someplace else. Lots of stuff can expand the time frame of an investigation.

The bright side of all that is that it usually doesn't bode well for the primary subjects of the investigation.

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Nov 20, 2019 09:44:18   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
Sometimes, when a stone is turned over, what they find unexpectedly leads to two or three new trails that need to be followed -- more people than previously known to be involved in something or a surprise series of text messages or emails, maybe they discover that subject A took a quiet one day trip to see subject C and it turns out that subject B also attended the meeting when he had previously testified he was someplace else. Lots of stuff can expand the time frame of an investigation.

The bright side of all that is that it usually doesn't bode well for the primary subjects of the investigation.
Sometimes, when a stone is turned over, what they ... (show quote)


As always, hope that you are right.
But I don't trust anyone in Washington DC.

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Nov 20, 2019 09:52:20   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Amen

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Nov 20, 2019 10:11:51   #
Airforceone
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, we are to believe that a lt/col cannot distinguish between and favor and a demand. My god, seriously??

My first impression of this guy this morning was that he was a dishonest climber with ambitions beyond his current post. My comment was that I had known guys like him and would not trust them behind me in any type of action. And make no mistake, this MoFo knows what the difference is between a favor and a demand. I am sure it was Schiff who gave him the excuse that in the military, no matter how nicely stated, it is a demand. How stupid! Certainly not where I served!

I believe, as do a lot of folks now, that Vindman was the source of the whistle blower complaint. Guys like this brag a lot, like Joe, and I can see him getting all over this "inappropriate" conversation with the eventual whistle blower. He's obviously a Trump hater. His expressions and his body language scream it to high heaven. I instantly picked up on the demon inside him. It truly gave me the chills this morning.

We can only speculate how Schiff got involved in all of this but he certainly knows who the whistle blower is and I can guarantee you, Schiff and Vindman have spoken prior to this morning and probably many other times on private lines.

But make no mistake, Vindman's lies to the whistle blower started this entire thing. I would imagine that if the whistle blower had actually seen the transcript of the call before listening to Vindman and making the complaint, that the whistle blower would not have made the complaint. He certainly HAD better hide his identity. Legally, he would be on the hook for slander and making a false complaint of the highest order; fraud of the congress and the entire USA.

And don't go counting out Pelosi as a major player in all this. She knows everything Schiff does.

When the entire democrat saga comes out, they will be lucky to still be a party. And don't think there are not at least a few repugs involved in this. And look out Obama, just look out.
Yes, we are to believe that a lt/col cannot distin... (show quote)


Wow so every Career official who testified is also lying. Don’t you understand these people risk there careers to go up against the most powerful man in the world that is running a corrupt administration.

Answer a simple question if the Alt. col Vindman is lying then let Bolton/Mulvaney/Pompeo/ Giuliani/and Perry raise there right hand and testify

(WHY IS TRUMP BLOCKING THE TESTIMONY OF THESE 5 MEN. THEY WERE AT THE CENTER OF THE UKRAINE SCANDAL TRUMP HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR THIS UP BY LETTING HIS ADVISORS GO INTO THIS HEARING AND DISPUTE THE TESTIMONY OF THESE CAREER OFFICIALS) (WHY IS THAT) Can’t get an answer from any Trump supporter.

Why is Trump using old propaganda started by Russia that it was the Ukraine that hacked the DNC. While our CIA, FBI, and all 17 Intel agencies say it was Russia. Still Trump supporters can’t answer.

Sondland just testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo Mulvaney/Giuliani/Pompeo/ and Perry were all in the loop under the express direction of Trump. So with all the testimony over the last week it has all come together. Trump did commit a Quid Pro Quo.

So good luck GOP the destruction of the Republican Party will commence. You will maintain your support in the racist hate filled south that knows nothing but hate and hypocritical Evangelicals a one issue voter intimidation Abortion.

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Nov 20, 2019 10:42:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Wow so every Career official who testified is also lying. Don’t you understand these people risk there careers to go up against the most powerful man in the world that is running a corrupt administration.

Answer a simple question if the Alt. col Vindman is lying then let Bolton/Mulvaney/Pompeo/ Giuliani/and Perry raise there right hand and testify

(WHY IS TRUMP BLOCKING THE TESTIMONY OF THESE 5 MEN. THEY WERE AT THE CENTER OF THE UKRAINE SCANDAL TRUMP HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR THIS UP BY LETTING HIS ADVISORS GO INTO THIS HEARING AND DISPUTE THE TESTIMONY OF THESE CAREER OFFICIALS) (WHY IS THAT) Can’t get an answer from any Trump supporter.

Why is Trump using old propaganda started by Russia that it was the Ukraine that hacked the DNC. While our CIA, FBI, and all 17 Intel agencies say it was Russia. Still Trump supporters can’t answer.

Sondland just testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo Mulvaney/Giuliani/Pompeo/ and Perry were all in the loop under the express direction of Trump. So with all the testimony over the last week it has all come together. Trump did commit a Quid Pro Quo.

So good luck GOP the destruction of the Republican Party will commence. You will maintain your support in the racist hate filled south that knows nothing but hate and hypocritical Evangelicals a one issue voter intimidation Abortion.
Wow so every Career official who testified is also... (show quote)


If I had my way they would all testify, but apparently they are waiting to see if it gets to the senate. To you, why doesn't Schiff admit that he knows the whistle blower? We know that would preclude him directing these inquisitions, don't we. Of course then, he would have to answer questions about how he might have directed the whistle blower, am I right?? Do you think Schiff is just holding off until it gets to the senate??

Tell me AFO, do YOU know the difference between a favor and a demand?

And by the way, Sondland, with his failing and then returning memory, is about as good a witness as Cohen was. He has definitely now lied to the congressional committee, has he not??

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Nov 20, 2019 11:04:46   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If I had my way they would all testify, but apparently they are waiting to see if it gets to the senate. To you, why doesn't Schiff admit that he knows the whistle blower? We know that would preclude him directing these inquisitions, don't we. Of course then, he would have to answer questions about how he might have directed the whistle blower, am I right?? Do you think Schiff is just holding off until it gets to the senate??

Tell me AFO, do YOU know the difference between a favor and a demand?

And by the way, Sondland, with his failing and then returning memory, is about as good a witness as Cohen was. He has definitely now lied to the congressional committee, has he not??
If I had my way they would all testify, but appare... (show quote)


at Trump direction but it wont matter the trial in the Senate will be a farce but the voters will remember in Nov of 2020 and Jan 21st Trump will be out of the White house he may resign after losing the election so Pence can pardon him like Ford did to Nixon

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Nov 20, 2019 11:23:58   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
As always, hope that you are right.
But I don't trust anyone in Washington DC.


Who does?

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Nov 20, 2019 11:59:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
jimpack123 wrote:
at Trump direction but it wont matter the trial in the Senate will be a farce but the voters will remember in Nov of 2020 and Jan 21st Trump will be out of the White house he may resign after losing the election so Pence can pardon him like Ford did to Nixon


It will be a farce because they will get to confront things like Schiff, the whistle blower, inconsistent testimonies like Sondlands, and corruption relating to the 2016 election and Burisma/Biden's, am I right??

That's rhetorical. I am right!

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