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Nov 7, 2019 10:23:05   #
okie don
 
I think they should move to Venzuela and see how they like it.

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Nov 7, 2019 10:25:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
okie don wrote:
I think they should move to Venzuela and see how they like it.


They have a hell of great weight loss program.

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Nov 7, 2019 12:27:35   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
It's communism; plain & simple. It is a drag on incentive and that has been proved. It is also enslavement to government.


Back when America was great, we got into a war. Not one of these dinky little wars against 2-bit countries. This was a real war, fought for National survival against some of the most industrialized countries in the world. Tax rates went up to almost 90% for wealthy individuals and corporations. The government spent $7 million a minute for three years and nine months. That was no fly swatting expedition like Grenada or Panama or the first Gulf War. We won that war. And instead of being in debt to the tune of $trillions, it was all paid for in three years. So spare me your accusations of "communism." I suspect that you wouldn't know a communist if one bit you.

War, which we have been in for two decades, is defined as "diplomacy, but carried on by different means." But it is also, and always has been, a way to redistribute wealth. What Ike warned us about, that military/industrial complex, is alive and well. The government taxes chumps like you and me, and gives it to a few chosen industrys. So if you are really a libertarian, you should be in favor of getting the government out of that sort of activity and letting free enterprise run free.

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Nov 7, 2019 13:30:07   #
okie don
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
Back when America was great, we got into a war. Not one of these dinky little wars against 2-bit countries. This was a real war, fought for National survival against some of the most industrialized countries in the world. Tax rates went up to almost 90% for wealthy individuals and corporations. The government spent $7 million a minute for three years and nine months. That was no fly swatting expedition like Grenada or Panama or the first Gulf War. We won that war. And instead of being in debt to the tune of $trillions, it was all paid for in three years. So spare me your accusations of "communism." I suspect that you wouldn't know a communist if one bit you.

War, which we have been in for two decades, is defined as "diplomacy, but carried on by different means." But it is also, and always has been, a way to redistribute wealth. What Ike warned us about, that military/industrial complex, is alive and well. The government taxes chumps like you and me, and gives it to a few chosen industrys. So if you are really a libertarian, you should be in favor of getting the government out of that sort of activity and letting free enterprise run free.
Back when America was great, we got into a war. ... (show quote)

Here here

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Nov 7, 2019 14:17:01   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I believe we all have. Tax the rich, but don’t put forth any energy to take care of yourself is their theme.


Actually I've never been jealous of millionaires , muti- millionaires or billionaires not even those that are worth trillions !

There has always been folks far richer than I and there are folks that I am far richer than they are !

I've been in and out of debt thru out my farming career lot of good times and a lot of hard times and now at 74 if I chose I could stop farming and live off my land and savings investments .

The thing about being an American we all have the opportunity to work hard and acquire money and land or any other investments !

Then we have the Kevy's who jealousy think the rich should pay 90% of their income in taxes cause no one should be rich well except Kevy and the rest of his kind they shouldn't have to pay any taxes !

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Nov 7, 2019 15:55:04   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I'm kind of a "practice what you preach" kind of guy...

What type of clothes does Brooks Brothers provide? (if the question isn't too personal)


Expensive ones. I used to shop there when my folks paid.

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Nov 7, 2019 15:56:36   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
It's communism; plain & simple. It is a drag on incentive and that has been proved. It is also enslavement to government.



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Nov 7, 2019 16:08:49   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
Back when America was great, we got into a war. Not one of these dinky little wars against 2-bit countries. This was a real war, fought for National survival against some of the most industrialized countries in the world. Tax rates went up to almost 90% for wealthy individuals and corporations. The government spent $7 million a minute for three years and nine months. That was no fly swatting expedition like Grenada or Panama or the first Gulf War. We won that war. And instead of being in debt to the tune of $trillions, it was all paid for in three years. So spare me your accusations of "communism." I suspect that you wouldn't know a communist if one bit you.

War, which we have been in for two decades, is defined as "diplomacy, but carried on by different means." But it is also, and always has been, a way to redistribute wealth. What Ike warned us about, that military/industrial complex, is alive and well. The government taxes chumps like you and me, and gives it to a few chosen industrys. So if you are really a libertarian, you should be in favor of getting the government out of that sort of activity and letting free enterprise run free.
Back when America was great, we got into a war. ... (show quote)


Ahh, so I'm not the only one who read Eisenhower's farewell address. He had too many eyes on him to come out and say the whole damn government. Vietnam didn't feel like that much of a win. All for money. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? I thought they didn't even try to launch a missile at us so we were okay, boy was I wrong. I was talking to a lady in Florida, everyday she expected missiles to come, so had to take precautions. I don't know how anyone can live like that, I like to face the enemy head-on and let the chips fall where they may.

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Nov 7, 2019 17:44:48   #
truthiness
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
Back when America was great, we got into a war. Not one of these dinky little wars against 2-bit countries. This was a real war, fought for National survival against some of the most industrialized countries in the world. Tax rates went up to almost 90% for wealthy individuals and corporations. The government spent $7 million a minute for three years and nine months. That was no fly swatting expedition like Grenada or Panama or the first Gulf War. We won that war. And instead of being in debt to the tune of $trillions, it was all paid for in three years. So spare me your accusations of "communism." I suspect that you wouldn't know a communist if one bit you.

War, which we have been in for two decades, is defined as "diplomacy, but carried on by different means." But it is also, and always has been, a way to redistribute wealth. What Ike warned us about, that military/industrial complex, is alive and well. The government taxes chumps like you and me, and gives it to a few chosen industrys. So if you are really a libertarian, you should be in favor of getting the government out of that sort of activity and letting free enterprise run free.
Back when America was great, we got into a war. ... (show quote)

....
"The government taxes chumps like you and me, and gives it to a few chosen industrys" is
another way of saying crony capitalism: https://www.hoover.org/research/rise-crony-capitalism

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Nov 7, 2019 22:10:51   #
Hadenough
 
Kevyn wrote:
The will with living wage laws, I don’t know if they do now I shop at Brooks Brothers.


Kevie,

When did BB start selling straight jackets?

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Nov 8, 2019 04:02:30   #
sisboombaa
 
Kevyn wrote:
America needs to seriously tax the rich – I should know, I'm one of them
George Zimmer

If Donald Trump really wants to make America great again, he’d do what our country did when it was at the height of its economic stability and equality: increase the top income tax rate to 90%.

Instead, what we have now is a tax system put into place for present-day robber barons – one that enables the interests of a small number of powerful industries to dominate national policy, for the benefit of only themselves and to the detriment of working people.

Under the current revenue system, companies such as Facebook and Exxon pay a lower rate on their 20 billionth dollar of profit (21%) than the top rate that dental assistants, sales workers, mechanics, telephone operators, painters and postal clerks pay on their average annual wage of $39,400 (22%).

Thanks to Trump and his 2017 tax bill, income inequality has now reached its highest level since the US Census Bureau first began to tabulate it 50 years ago.

As a successful entrepreneur and founder of Men’s Wearhouse, I’ve seen how tax breaks for corporations and the rich perpetuate income inequality.

Last year, the country’s “Gini” index, which measures the nation’s income distribution, reached its highest reading ever. In our modern-day Gilded Age, more of the nation’s wealth is going to fewer people.

If the trend was a half-century in the making, the Trump tax bill that slashed corporate tax rates has fueled it to an extreme. It calls into question the very sustainability of capitalism, with ramifications for everything from climate change to racial justice to who has a true economic stake in our nation.

In 2010, I joined an organization called the Patriotic Millionaires. We believe that those of us who benefit the most from our capitalist system must ensure that it also works for our employees, our customers, our communities – in short, all of the nation’s stakeholders, not just our shareholders.

Philanthropy alone won’t cut it. Advocacy is in order.

As “traitors to our class” – as we proudly call ourselves – we must press lawmakers at every level of discussion to revitalize the union movement, to increase the national minimum wage to $15 an hour, and to restore the working middle class that rose to prominence in America when our tax system was at its equitable best.

In order to do that, we need to bring back a fair and progressive tax code – one in which our nation’s wealthiest pay for investments in infrastructure, clean energy, public transit, early childhood education, re-entry programs for the formerly incarcerated and federal support for affordable housing.

That’s why the Patriotic Millionaires are hosting a Tax the Rich! conference in November. We’re meeting at the ground zero of 21st-century inequality – San Francisco – to challenge our wealthy peers to fight for a fairer tax code.

We’ll be joined by Robert Reich, Gabriel Zucman and Emmanuel Saez, three University of California, Berkeley economists whose research has shifted the way we look at taxation and inequality, as well as an array of other thinkers, activists and elected leaders.

By discussing how to address inequality, we can provide for a truly great American future. We can debate the numbers, the rates, the programs. But when it comes to recreating American greatness, the ones who extract the greatest share of the national wealth must be the ones who pay the most to restore it.

George Zimmer is the founder and former CEO of Men’s Wearhouse, and the founder, CEO and chairman of Generation Tux
America needs to seriously tax the rich – I should... (show quote)


It's difficult to solve a problem when you don't know what the problem is. The problem may be the amount of monies spent by the government and not their tax income. Very seldom I hear/read the problem is over spending. It's not how much money you make, but more importantly, how you manage the money you do make. There are times I wonder if anyone in government stops and thinks in a constructive way.

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Nov 8, 2019 17:36:11   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Kevyn wrote:
America needs to seriously tax the rich – I should know, I'm one of them
George Zimmer

If Donald Trump really wants to make America great again, he’d do what our country did when it was at the height of its economic stability and equality: increase the top income tax rate to 90%.

Instead, what we have now is a tax system put into place for present-day robber barons – one that enables the interests of a small number of powerful industries to dominate national policy, for the benefit of only themselves and to the detriment of working people.

Under the current revenue system, companies such as Facebook and Exxon pay a lower rate on their 20 billionth dollar of profit (21%) than the top rate that dental assistants, sales workers, mechanics, telephone operators, painters and postal clerks pay on their average annual wage of $39,400 (22%).

Thanks to Trump and his 2017 tax bill, income inequality has now reached its highest level since the US Census Bureau first began to tabulate it 50 years ago.

As a successful entrepreneur and founder of Men’s Wearhouse, I’ve seen how tax breaks for corporations and the rich perpetuate income inequality.

Last year, the country’s “Gini” index, which measures the nation’s income distribution, reached its highest reading ever. In our modern-day Gilded Age, more of the nation’s wealth is going to fewer people.

If the trend was a half-century in the making, the Trump tax bill that slashed corporate tax rates has fueled it to an extreme. It calls into question the very sustainability of capitalism, with ramifications for everything from climate change to racial justice to who has a true economic stake in our nation.

In 2010, I joined an organization called the Patriotic Millionaires. We believe that those of us who benefit the most from our capitalist system must ensure that it also works for our employees, our customers, our communities – in short, all of the nation’s stakeholders, not just our shareholders.

Philanthropy alone won’t cut it. Advocacy is in order.

As “traitors to our class” – as we proudly call ourselves – we must press lawmakers at every level of discussion to revitalize the union movement, to increase the national minimum wage to $15 an hour, and to restore the working middle class that rose to prominence in America when our tax system was at its equitable best.

In order to do that, we need to bring back a fair and progressive tax code – one in which our nation’s wealthiest pay for investments in infrastructure, clean energy, public transit, early childhood education, re-entry programs for the formerly incarcerated and federal support for affordable housing.

That’s why the Patriotic Millionaires are hosting a Tax the Rich! conference in November. We’re meeting at the ground zero of 21st-century inequality – San Francisco – to challenge our wealthy peers to fight for a fairer tax code.

We’ll be joined by Robert Reich, Gabriel Zucman and Emmanuel Saez, three University of California, Berkeley economists whose research has shifted the way we look at taxation and inequality, as well as an array of other thinkers, activists and elected leaders.

By discussing how to address inequality, we can provide for a truly great American future. We can debate the numbers, the rates, the programs. But when it comes to recreating American greatness, the ones who extract the greatest share of the national wealth must be the ones who pay the most to restore it.

George Zimmer is the founder and former CEO of Men’s Wearhouse, and the founder, CEO and chairman of Generation Tux
America needs to seriously tax the rich – I should... (show quote)



Well, if and when the fools do that, there will be no rich in America, I will move to Irland which has a 6% Corp tax. You will be living in an armpit in a few years and getting your lunch out of a dumpster that is if you can get past the bigger guys getting their's. Like Forest Gump said "stupid is as stupid does."

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Nov 8, 2019 18:06:56   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
sisboombaa wrote:
It's difficult to solve a problem when you don't know what the problem is. The problem may be the amount of monies spent by the government and not their tax income. Very seldom I hear/read the problem is over spending. It's not how much money you make, but more importantly, how you manage the money you do make. There are times I wonder if anyone in government stops and thinks in a constructive way.


It doesn't matter whether it's State of Federal elected officials there seems to be once in office they totally forget who's money they are spending it all boils do to I've got to do what my voters say for me to do !

Makes no difference if their voters are demanding pie in the sky spending so the spending just keeps on going and going like the energizer bunny !

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Nov 9, 2019 00:01:54   #
sisboombaa
 
4430 wrote:
It doesn't matter whether it's State of Federal elected officials there seems to be once in office they totally forget who's money they are spending it all boils do to I've got to do what my voters say for me to do !

Makes no difference if their voters are demanding pie in the sky spending so the spending just keeps on going and going like the energizer bunny !


Yeah, I also blame the voters assuming there is no voter fraud of any magnitude. If the voters are the problem what is the solution? Things are going down hill fast and our politicians are just fighting with one another. Very few constructive things get accomplished. Solving problems seems to be on the back burners. Sad.

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Nov 9, 2019 00:41:53   #
EmilyD
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I'm kind of a "practice what you preach" kind of guy...

What type of clothes does Brooks Brothers provide? (if the question isn't too personal)


He's trying to be snobby among the middle class, but "practical". Brooks Brothers is a shop in most American malls that have clothing mostly for men a small offering for corporate women attire. Off the rack clothing, if you know what I mean.

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