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Impeachment Doesn't Take A Crime...Hence The Word Misdemeanors
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Nov 5, 2019 11:03:08   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
zombinis3 wrote:
First hand knowledge isn't required to make a report, to accuse it has to be proven that it was in fact wrong. The words I need a favor then Bidens name is mentioned is enough to be considered unethical. Yet it still has to be proven that it was wrong. To find trouble you have to know that it may exist. That is what reports are for to notify.


The standard of being a whistle blower was, until earlier this year. One had to have first hand information before being called a whistle blower. That standard was changed this year because of Trumps being hated by the left.

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Nov 5, 2019 11:26:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
The big deal about this impeachment is that Trump claimed he was encouraging the Ukraine to continue to look into the corruption at Burisma. Biden bragged about extorting them into firing the prosecutor investigating Burisma but claimed it was because he was corrupt and not investigating corruption. Biden even claimed there was no investigation into Burisma when he performed the bragged about extortion of the Ukraine government.

But now we are finding out that folks at Burisma contacted the Obama State Department asking for them to help stop the investigation. One month after that, big Joe did his thang! This has a fuse on it and it's about to blow!

http://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

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Nov 5, 2019 18:30:56   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Louie27 wrote:
The standard of being a whistle blower was, until earlier this year. One had to have first hand information before being called a whistle blower. That standard was changed this year because of Trumps being hated by the left.


Yes you are right that is what Trump asked. Something was changed it was the form one of them has three choices the second only two.

As of May 24, 2018, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community’s Urgent Concern disclosure form — the form whistleblowers fill out — offered three choices to describe how the whistleblower got his/her information: personal knowledge, heard from other people, and other sources.


The current form offers just two choices: personal knowledge or "heard about it from others." That form dates from August 2019.


The previous form also included a section under the subhead "First-hand information required."

"In order to find an urgent concern ‘credible,’ the IC IG (Intelligence Community Inspector General) must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA (Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act) based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he/she witnessed some type of wrongdoing. (Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the IC IG.) Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you think wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than secondhand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA."

The current reporting form lacks that section.

Based on these facts, Trump and other Republicans asserted that the rules for whistleblowers were changed "just before" the current complaint was filed. Actually, only the forms were changed. The rules stayed the same.

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