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with all his PAC Money, why does he still continue to stiff those he hires?
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Oct 26, 2019 07:20:29   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
permafrost wrote:
seems pretty consistent to me.. the con man still doing what he has done for a life time..

Not paying his bills..

If the bill had been paid in the past, they would not be an issue today...




Perm, your meme is false. Did you not see the video? The republicans walked calmly and even slowly into the chamber where the cowardly Schitt ran away with a witness. The reps were orderly and even ordered a bunch of pizzas and had a good ole' time. The shameless lying MSM are the ones projecting the false image of 'storming' which is a lie.
This whole secret inquiry strikes a hard blow against any decent person's idea of justice. It's the beginning of the destruction of our judicial system.

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Oct 26, 2019 08:44:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
When anywhere from 30,000 to 50,000 people show up for a Trump rally, I wonder how many local merchants make out like bandits. Bet they sell a hell of lot of hamburgers, cokes and beer. If 10,000 people travel to a city holding a rally and each spend $200 for food, gas and lodging, that's 2 million bucks going into the local economy.

So, are we talking about how much the government spends or how the citizens of America get a bit of a boost in the old bank accounts?

When I think of the enormous amount of tax revenues the government wastes every year, the cost of a political rally is chump change. In grants alone, the government doles out almost $600 billion every year for all kinds of weird shit - like Sex-Ed for Prostitutes, Condom design, Pedestrian Training in China, and Galactic Animated Cartoons.

And, that is just part of it. You're not gonna believe this: Open The Books: Every Dime, Online, In Real Time
When anywhere from 30,000 to 50,000 people show up... (show quote)



You have a good point Blade.. and I love that map... find tons of money in even the most out of the way places..

Gotta keep the map.. thanks..

But the subject is a political group not paying its bills.

I have not heard of this until this year.. It became an issue in Minneapolis because the trump camp had failed to pay as promised at 2 other rallies in Minnesota.. at Duluth and Rochester..

Sad to say that I do not know how payment is structured..

While trump probably needs more security than a normal politician, it is my understanding that these event have been considered private and costs, both normal and extra are paid by the group sponsoring them..

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Oct 26, 2019 08:48:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JW wrote:
two points:

1 - your remark says nothing about your 'consistency' which is what I referred to, and

2 - there is a world of difference between lawful and right. Jim Crow was lawful. That doesn't make it right.



You are correct.. Jim Crow for sure.. and others..

But I still do not see that I was inconsistent... about what? How?

Bit more of the blow over at Duluth last weekend..
Bit more of the blow over at Duluth last weekend.....

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Oct 26, 2019 08:57:34   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maximus wrote:
Perm, your meme is false. Did you not see the video? The republicans walked calmly and even slowly into the chamber where the cowardly Schitt ran away with a witness. The reps were orderly and even ordered a bunch of pizzas and had a good ole' time. The shameless lying MSM are the ones projecting the false image of 'storming' which is a lie.
This whole secret inquiry strikes a hard blow against any decent person's idea of justice. It's the beginning of the destruction of our judicial system.
Perm, your meme is false. Did you not see the vide... (show quote)



Max, you may well be correct.. the press loves to create head lines..

But that is not the point..

As others have posted.. the meeting was for committee only..

And that committee includes a number of republicans..

this is the way committees work, the republicans have held dozens, even hundreds and written laws to make them more secure..

This is the normal 1st step. If and when it goes further, the hearing will be public/for all member of congress.

Again this is normal and done by the republicans for everything form the Clinton hearing to the trumpcare scam..

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Oct 26, 2019 12:08:11   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Pariahjf wrote:
That's up to the individual cities and states on how to proceed on that front.



You're basically saying charge Trump but leave the democrats alone. Have you not figured out by now that this kind of thinking is what got Trump elected in 16'?
I guess not cause the left's state of mind will get him reelected in 20'.

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Oct 26, 2019 12:48:31   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
permafrost wrote:
Albuquerque has joined a lengthy list of U.S. cities with a simple request: that President Trump’s campaign pay for the costs incurred during a rally. On Wednesday, the Albuquerque Journal reported that the city sent an invoice to Trump’s reelection campaign in an effort to recoup more than $211,000 in expenses from a September rally. That figure includes more than $71,000 in police overtime.

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Analysis | The Trump campaign has over $1 million in outstanding bills from American cities
Albuquerque has joined a lengthy list of U.S. citi... (show quote)


Only the dems make up the law to fit their phoney narrative. Permi, you will find out in about a year, just how fed up the huge majority of Americans will not put up with you and fellow dems lawlessness.

"No FEC requirement for candidates to pay security
There is no specific requirement within the provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act or Federal Election Commission regulations for congressional or presidential campaign committees to pay for expenses incurred by a state or local government for campaign events, said Myles Martin, an FEC spokesman.

That means that campaigns can choose to reimburse governments for security costs, but they are not required.

A Secret Service spokesman told PolitiFact that it is not funded to pay police overtime and doesn’t have a mechanism to do so.

"This is a blank spot in campaign finance laws and campaigns often take advantage of it, as the Trump campaign is in Minneapolis this week," said Carleton College political science professor Steven Schier. "It's a low priority for Congress because it does not affect legislators' campaigns in a significant way."

There is, however, a mechanism for local law enforcement to seek reimbursement for protecting Trump’s residences in Florida, New York and New Jersey.

Our ruling
The Trump campaign said that the Minneapolis "city government preemptively informed the Target Center that it would be responsible for $530,000 in security and other costs" related to a Trump rally, "more than 26 times the estimated security costs for a 2009 Target Center health care rally held by President Barack Obama."

A letter from AEG to the Trump campaign cites the $530,000 estimated costs. An article in the St. Paul Pioneer Press paraphrased the Minneapolis police chief at the time stating that the costs would be $20,000 for an Obama rally.

We rate this claim True"

The full story from Politifact.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/oct/08/donald-trump/trump-campaign-says-minneapolis-wants-charge-53000/

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Oct 26, 2019 13:29:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Only the dems make up the law to fit their phoney narrative. Permi, you will find out in about a year, just how fed up the huge majority of Americans will not put up with you and fellow dems lawlessness.

"No FEC requirement for candidates to pay security
There is no specific requirement within the provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act or Federal Election Commission regulations for congressional or presidential campaign committees to pay for expenses incurred by a state or local government for campaign events, said Myles Martin, an FEC spokesman.

That means that campaigns can choose to reimburse governments for security costs, but they are not required.

A Secret Service spokesman told PolitiFact that it is not funded to pay police overtime and doesn’t have a mechanism to do so.

"This is a blank spot in campaign finance laws and campaigns often take advantage of it, as the Trump campaign is in Minneapolis this week," said Carleton College political science professor Steven Schier. "It's a low priority for Congress because it does not affect legislators' campaigns in a significant way."

There is, however, a mechanism for local law enforcement to seek reimbursement for protecting Trump’s residences in Florida, New York and New Jersey.

Our ruling
The Trump campaign said that the Minneapolis "city government preemptively informed the Target Center that it would be responsible for $530,000 in security and other costs" related to a Trump rally, "more than 26 times the estimated security costs for a 2009 Target Center health care rally held by President Barack Obama."

A letter from AEG to the Trump campaign cites the $530,000 estimated costs. An article in the St. Paul Pioneer Press paraphrased the Minneapolis police chief at the time stating that the costs would be $20,000 for an Obama rally.

We rate this claim True"

The full story from Politifact.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/oct/08/donald-trump/trump-campaign-says-minneapolis-wants-charge-53000/
Only the dems make up the law to fit their phoney ... (show quote)



That is good information Cody,, and it surprises me..

I would have thought that when expenses are greater then normal, the host organization would have to reimburse the city for at least a part of it and that would be mentioned in a contract/agreement..

With the direction our society is moving, I would bet the condition is addressed in the near future..

again, surprising to me.. thanks..

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Oct 26, 2019 16:09:06   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
Cities need to get paid up front by the campaign before they allow use of any of their facilities. He has a long history of stiffing people he owes money. If he won't pay up front refuse to coordinate with anyone planing the visit. The Secret Service needs local cooperation to facilitate a campaign visit and without it they will not approve the event. Local taxpayers should never be saddled with the cost of one of the Pumpkinfurher’s , lia-a palloza, festivals of hate.


Historically, who pays for the facilities in any presidential event when it benefits the office holder?

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Oct 26, 2019 16:33:20   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
permafrost wrote:
Albuquerque has joined a lengthy list of U.S. cities with a simple request: that President Trump’s campaign pay for the costs incurred during a rally. On Wednesday, the Albuquerque Journal reported that the city sent an invoice to Trump’s reelection campaign in an effort to recoup more than $211,000 in expenses from a September rally. That figure includes more than $71,000 in police overtime.

About this website
WASHINGTONPOST.COM
Analysis | The Trump campaign has over $1 million in outstanding bills from American cities
Albuquerque has joined a lengthy list of U.S. citi... (show quote)


It's nice that you have a reference, but in the future could you use one that is real news? I don't doubt any of the figures.

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Oct 26, 2019 16:38:57   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
rebob14 wrote:
Historically, who pays for the facilities in any presidential event when it benefits the office holder?


Same rules apply to all re election whether democrat or GOP.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pays-president-travels-campaign-events/story?id=40361545

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify-are-taxpayers-paying-for-trump-to-travel-to-his-2020-rally-in-el-paso/65-1d552909-63ca-43ec-8673-d31a530015c9

That is the rules for campaign over watch. None pay upfront and typically what is paid is on a quarterly basis. Thus about 120 says after event.

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Oct 26, 2019 16:42:50   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
It's nice that you have a reference, but in the future could you use one that is real news? I don't doubt any of the figures.


ABC is in my next link, covering HRC and OhB and Trump. A matter of opnion what news is real. I sent links quoting the law. You can look it up on the FEC website and read all the laws yourself. That is really the real news. Like constitution and all laws passed by federal government.

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Oct 26, 2019 18:42:51   #
elledee
 
lets try simplicity.....lib-prog run cities trying to shake down Trump after the huge amount of positive economic impact of his rallies .....so ungrateful

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Oct 26, 2019 19:21:31   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Exactly. The chart on original message points out the obvious very well. And as I showed, Dems like OhB and HRC go to their safe places. Not what I want from someone running the country.

Trump stands his ground and helps his enemies see a better way. Those that have failed to listen, have fallen to the roadside shoulder of a very poor area of performance.

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Oct 26, 2019 19:34:09   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
permafrost wrote:
Max, you may well be correct.. the press loves to create head lines..

But that is not the point..

As others have posted.. the meeting was for committee only..

And that committee includes a number of republicans..

this is the way committees work, the republicans have held dozens, even hundreds and written laws to make them more secure..

This is the normal 1st step. If and when it goes further, the hearing will be public/for all member of congress.

Again this is normal and done by the republicans for everything form the Clinton hearing to the trumpcare scam..
Max, you may well be correct.. the press loves to ... (show quote)


Well, I'm puzzled. I heard one senator quote the rule book for the senate and he said that the 'evidence' being collected was due in print to every member of the senate. I am unable to locate that video presently. Then, I hear Judge Napolitano tell Fox anchors that the secret meetings are consistent with the Nixon and Clinton proceedings. He did however say that all of the evidence would have to be made public were a hearing to mature.
My problem with the whole thing is Schiff himself. For 3 years now, we have heard him say he had proof positive and yet did we EVER hear it or see it? No. Why? Because he didn't have it, he was lying. Schiff is a liar and I don't trust him to do anything that's above board when it comes to Trump.

Said Schiff: “We want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigation and not give the president or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests.” Did he not fabricate testimony when he made up his 'parody'?

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