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Apr 11, 2014 18:24:19   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/#sthash.77ellZCR.dpuf

Typical government over reach.

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Apr 11, 2014 18:41:20   #
faithistheword
 
Elwood wrote:
http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/#sthash.77ellZCR.dpuf

Typical government over reach.




Does this rancher have legal help ? Talk about government gone amuck! About 75% of govt. owned land should be sold to private bidders. Our govt. should NEVER have gotten this big, where citizens rights can be trampled. They do these things just because they CAN !

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Apr 11, 2014 19:03:20   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
faithistheword wrote:
Does this rancher have legal help ? Talk about government gone amuck! About 75% of govt. owned land should be sold to private bidders. Our govt. should NEVER have gotten this big, where citizens rights can be trampled. They do these things just because they CAN !


I believe he has been fighting the government for quite a few years and I would assume that he is lawyered up but maybe he is one of those rugged individualists who takes on the government by himself. He is getting a lot of support. I even heard Sean Hannity on the radio this afternoon talking about going to Vegas to support this rancher, Cliven Bundy. Our government is becoming way too big and all powerful. Time to make a change! Term limits would be a good start.

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Apr 11, 2014 19:25:45   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Elwood wrote:
I believe he has been fighting the government for quite a few years and I would assume that he is lawyered up but maybe he is one of those rugged individualists who takes on the government by himself. He is getting a lot of support. I even heard Sean Hannity on the radio this afternoon talking about going to Vegas to support this rancher, Cliven Bundy. Our government is becoming way too big and all powerful. Time to make a change! Term limits would be a good start.


you don't suppose he would use this as his excuse to declare martial law do you?

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Apr 11, 2014 19:39:46   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
alex wrote:
you don't suppose he would use this as his excuse to declare martial law do you?


Nothing would surprise me with Obummer. :-D

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Apr 11, 2014 20:09:30   #
bahmer
 
alex wrote:
you don't suppose he would use this as his excuse to declare martial law do you?


This is the latest report that I have read and it makes more sense to me than that BS that they try and spin about that tortoise.

Again I believe that we have to follow the money.

The Bureau of Land Management says its 200-man armed siege of the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada is all about protecting an "endangered tortoise." But a Natural News investigation has found that BLM is actually in the business of raking in millions of dollars by leasing Nevada lands to energy companies that engage in fracking operations.
This document from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology shows significant exploratory drilling being conducted in precisely the same area where the Bundy family has been running cattle since the 1870′s. The "Gold Butte" area is indicated on the lower right corner of the document (see below), and it clearly shows numerous exploratory drilling operations have been conducted there.
What's also clear is that oil has been found in nearby areas and possibly even within the Gold Butte area itself.
It is, of course, customary for the U.S. government to bring armed soldiers to an oil dispute. (Operation "Iraqi Freedom" for startersÂ…) Heavily armed snipers, helicopters and militarized soldiers have never been invoked over tortoises. (Anyone who thinks this siege is about reptiles is kidding themselves.)
Here's the map showing the oil exploration conducted on the land where Bundy runs his cattle (all the red crosshairs are oil and gas exploration drilling operations):

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Apr 11, 2014 20:23:13   #
grace scott
 
Elwood wrote:
I believe he has been fighting the government for quite a few years and I would assume that he is lawyered up but maybe he is one of those rugged individualists who takes on the government by himself. He is getting a lot of support. I even heard Sean Hannity on the radio this afternoon talking about going to Vegas to support this rancher, Cliven Bundy. Our government is becoming way too big and all powerful. Time to make a change! Term limits would be a good start.



If oil companies want to use this land, Bundy is SOL. This is not right, but it is a fact.

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Apr 11, 2014 20:25:22   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
Elwood wrote:
http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/#sthash.77ellZCR.dpuf

Typical government over reach.


I drove by there today, and I have to say I did not know the BLM, Park Service, and Forest Service has so many vehicles and personnel! They're all over the place! They're blocking the highways, any side road, in the rest areas along I15, everywhere. A lot of tax dollars going to abusive and over reaching government if you ask me.

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Apr 11, 2014 20:40:16   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
grace scott wrote:
If oil companies want to use this land, Bundy is SOL. This is not right, but it is a fact.


Yup. Money talks bull s--t walks. Sucks, doesn't it? :hunf:

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Apr 11, 2014 20:42:00   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
OldSchool wrote:
I drove by there today, and I have to say I did not know the BLM, Park Service, and Forest Service has so many vehicles and personnel! They're all over the place! They're blocking the highways, any side road, in the rest areas along I15, everywhere. A lot of tax dollars going to abusive and over reaching government if you ask me.


I saw it on Fox News this evening with Greta Van Susteran. Scary stuff. What a waste of tax payers money. :hunf:

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Apr 12, 2014 04:09:03   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
bahmer wrote:
This is the latest report that I have read and it makes more sense to me than that BS that they try and spin about that tortoise.

Again I believe that we have to follow the money.

The Bureau of Land Management says its 200-man armed siege of the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada is all about protecting an "endangered tortoise." But a Natural News investigation has found that BLM is actually in the business of raking in millions of dollars by leasing Nevada lands to energy companies that engage in fracking operations.
This document from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology shows significant exploratory drilling being conducted in precisely the same area where the Bundy family has been running cattle since the 1870′s. The "Gold Butte" area is indicated on the lower right corner of the document (see below), and it clearly shows numerous exploratory drilling operations have been conducted there.
What's also clear is that oil has been found in nearby areas and possibly even within the Gold Butte area itself.
It is, of course, customary for the U.S. government to bring armed soldiers to an oil dispute. (Operation "Iraqi Freedom" for startersÂ…) Heavily armed snipers, helicopters and militarized soldiers have never been invoked over tortoises. (Anyone who thinks this siege is about reptiles is kidding themselves.)
Here's the map showing the oil exploration conducted on the land where Bundy runs his cattle (all the red crosshairs are oil and gas exploration drilling operations):
This is the latest report that I have read and it ... (show quote)


In the 1800's the Army was called in to remove folk because gold was found, now it's oil. Back then it was Indians being routed, but the Gov. isn't bigoted, so ..

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Apr 12, 2014 11:21:13   #
bahmer
 
OldSchool wrote:
I drove by there today, and I have to say I did not know the BLM, Park Service, and Forest Service has so many vehicles and personnel! They're all over the place! They're blocking the highways, any side road, in the rest areas along I15, everywhere. A lot of tax dollars going to abusive and over reaching government if you ask me.


I think dirty Harry Reid is behind this as well. I also heard that they wanted to put up solar panels on this property. I don't know for sure which it is but I know that the feds are up to no good on this one. I also don't doubt Harry Reid being behind it in some fashion or another.

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Apr 12, 2014 12:55:58   #
marjorie
 
bahmer Good Ole Harry and his son who at one time was a Clark County Commissioner and Neil Kornes his former senior policy advisor who were all involved with a %5 billion Chinese energy gaint in wind power or just maybe oil, gold, who really knows. But Mr Neil is now in the Bureau of Land Management according to records from BLM. So don't you realy think good Ole Harry has just a corner of the deal. Then his son & Neil. How about those bureaucrats with the policy make sure this is jammed down Rancher Bundy's throat. This has to do with a take over of anybody. Thank God for the STAND UP MEN. This could be what Obanana has been witing for in the Martial Law take it on. WOW

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Apr 12, 2014 13:46:52   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
marjorie wrote:
bahmer Good Ole Harry and his son who at one time was a Clark County Commissioner and Neil Kornes his former senior policy advisor who were all involved with a %5 billion Chinese energy gaint in wind power or just maybe oil, gold, who really knows. But Mr Neil is now in the Bureau of Land Management according to records from BLM. So don't you realy think good Ole Harry has just a corner of the deal. Then his son & Neil. How about those bureaucrats with the policy make sure this is jammed down Rancher Bundy's throat. This has to do with a take over of anybody. Thank God for the STAND UP MEN. This could be what Obanana has been witing for in the Martial Law take it on. WOW
bahmer Good Ole Harry and his son who at one time... (show quote)

From everything I have seen, and heard, the Bundy family has done nothing even remotely violent. So why go after them with such overwhelming force? This is scary stuff here! The last thing we need is a bunch of Americans killing each other over some unknown political play. It is a worriesome situation, and I'm afraid its not going to end well.

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Apr 12, 2014 14:45:05   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
bahmer wrote:
This is the latest report that I have read and it makes more sense to me than that BS that they try and spin about that tortoise.

Again I believe that we have to follow the money.

The Bureau of Land Management says its 200-man armed siege of the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada is all about protecting an "endangered tortoise." But a Natural News investigation has found that BLM is actually in the business of raking in millions of dollars by leasing Nevada lands to energy companies that engage in fracking operations.
This document from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology shows significant exploratory drilling being conducted in precisely the same area where the Bundy family has been running cattle since the 1870′s. The "Gold Butte" area is indicated on the lower right corner of the document (see below), and it clearly shows numerous exploratory drilling operations have been conducted there.
What's also clear is that oil has been found in nearby areas and possibly even within the Gold Butte area itself.
It is, of course, customary for the U.S. government to bring armed soldiers to an oil dispute. (Operation "Iraqi Freedom" for startersÂ…) Heavily armed snipers, helicopters and militarized soldiers have never been invoked over tortoises. (Anyone who thinks this siege is about reptiles is kidding themselves.)
Here's the map showing the oil exploration conducted on the land where Bundy runs his cattle (all the red crosshairs are oil and gas exploration drilling operations):
This is the latest report that I have read and it ... (show quote)


I just posted that I heard on Fox News this afternoon that the Feds had decided to step down.

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