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Oct 9, 2019 20:13:53   #
Radiance3
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Syria isn't doing anything for us and the Kurds had nothing to trade Trump, unlike Turkey.


Kurds are the peaceful kind of Muslims. They live in peace unless enemies try to attack them. Kurdistan has done lots of help during the Iraq war aiding the Allied forces. Kurdistan had also helped the Allied forces combat ISIS. US must not turn its back from them.

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Oct 9, 2019 20:16:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
tbutkovich wrote:
They are Christians and are outnumbered by the Turkish Muslims. This will be a bloodbath just like when the Turks pulled off the Armenian Holocaust. Trump has made a bad decision. Plenty of other places we could have gone to remove our troops. I am totally opposed to this decision!
Moi aussi.

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Oct 9, 2019 20:26:37   #
1ProudAmerican
 
proud republican wrote:
Yes,but even Trump's allies think it was a mistake!!


Then let the allies protect the area. WE are not the police for the world. They have been fighting for hundreds of years and will fight for hundreds more. Drop a bomb on the prison holding the ISIS guys and get out of there.

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Oct 9, 2019 20:33:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Radiance3 wrote:
Kurds are the peaceful kind of Muslims. They live in peace unless enemies try to attack them. Kurdistan has done lots of help during the Iraq war aiding the Allied forces. Kurdistan had also helped the Allied forces combat ISIS. US must not turn its back from them.


Kurds are peaceful?

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Oct 9, 2019 20:33:39   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Then let the allies protect the area. WE are not the police for the world. They have been fighting for hundreds of years and will fight for hundreds more. Drop a bomb on the prison holding the ISIS guys and get out of there.


Huzza to that last statement

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Oct 9, 2019 20:41:03   #
JustMPat
 
Bcon wrote:
What country is helping us build our infrastructure which is certainly need of much upkeep? The friggin democrats won’t even help. All they concentrate on is getting in powere by trying to get rid of a president who wants to build the country up. There are other countries in this world who could help Syria. Where are they. Sitting back with their hands out for American aid. Most of the countries that we aid vote against us in th UN. Bullshit. I think it is time to pull back and take care of our own. And I don’t mean only those on welfare.
What country is helping us build our infrastructur... (show quote)


Very true. It often appears that everyone wants our help, but when it comes to helping us, where are they? I know some people who are like that, too.

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Oct 9, 2019 21:19:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Then let the allies protect the area. WE are not the police for the world. They have been fighting for hundreds of years and will fight for hundreds more. Drop a bomb on the prison holding the ISIS guys and get out of there.


I just listened to an Army combat medic on a phone call to Mark Levin. He was terribly distressed, crying actually, over Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds. They are the most pro-American Muslims on the planet. This medic went into action with the Kurds, treated their wounded, and made many friends, even helped a Kurdish fighter's family to immigrate to the US.

I don't give a shit about what the polls say, this crap about "endless wars" is unconscionable propaganda. I think Trump's decision is a disgrace. Good God, what is he thinking. Who or what the hell got to him. I hope he comes to his senses before it is too damned late. There is no possibility for any good to come from this. The Turks are not just killing the Kurds, they are committing horrendous atrocities. The Kurdish women who fought like tigers are getting special treatment.

Just when you think things might be looking up, this decision to abandon the Kurds has emboldened Iran. The Iranian army is conducting military exercises on the Turkish border. Does anyone think they are simply doing drills? Nope. They are getting ready for something big. This is really distressing.

Special forces soldier tells Fox News reporter he’s ‘ashamed’ to carry out Trump’s order on the Kurds

A special forces soldier spoke to Fox News national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin and confessed they were “ashamed.”

“I just spoke to a distraught US Special Forces soldier who is among the 1000 or so US troops in Syria tonight who is serving alongside the SDF Kurdish forces,” Griffin tweeted Wednesday evening.

She also said that it was one of the hardest phone calls she’s ever taken.

“I am ashamed for the first time in my career,” the soldier told her. “Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It’s horrible.”

According to Griffin, this soldier has helped train local forces on the ground in multiple continents. Tonight, he is on the ground “witnessing Turkish atrocities.”

Turkey has been after the Kurds since the late 1970s, before most of the soldiers in the military were even born. The U.S. worked with the Kurds to fight back against ISIS in Syria, but now they’re facing attacks from another foe entirely. Already, civilians are dead at the hands of Turkey’s attacks.

He explained to Griffin that the Kurds “are as close to Western thinking in the Middle East as anyone.”

“We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement. There was NO threat to the Turks – NONE – from this side of the border,” the soldier told Griffin. “This is insanity. I don’t know what they call atrocities but they are happening.”

Despite knowing the U.S. was supposed to be pulling out and Turkey was on its way to bomb them, the Kurdish people stayed to ensure someone was guarding ISIS prisoners, the soldier told Griffin.

“They prevented a prison break last night without us,” the soldier said. “They are not abandoning our side (yet).”

But they are “pleading for our support.” but the U.S. is doing “nothing.” He said that he anticipates the ISIS fighters will likely be “free in the coming days and weeks.”

He was surprised that Trump made that decision Sunday, he said.

“Trump doesn’t understand the problem. He doesn’t understand the repercussions of this. Erdogan is an Islamist, not a level-headed actor,” he said. “This is not helping the ISIS fight.”

“The Kurds are sticking by us. No other partner I have ever dealt with would stand by us,”

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Oct 9, 2019 21:32:42   #
Bcon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I just listened to an Army combat medic on a phone call to Mark Levin. He was terribly distressed, crying actually, over Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds. They are the most pro-American Muslims on the planet. This medic went into action with the Kurds, treated their wounded, and made many friends, even helped a Kurdish fighter's family to immigrate to the US.

I don't give a shit about what the polls say, this crap about "endless wars" is unconscionable propaganda. I think Trump's decision is a disgrace. Good God, what is he thinking. Who or what the hell got to him. I hope he comes to his senses before it is too damned late. There is no possibility for any good to come from this. The Turks are not just killing the Kurds, they are committing horrendous atrocities. The Kurdish women who fought like tigers are getting special treatment.

Just when you think things might be looking up, this decision to abandon the Kurds has emboldened Iran. The Iranian army is conducting military exercises on the Turkish border. Does anyone think they are simply doing drills? Nope. They are getting ready for something big. This is really distressing.

Special forces soldier tells Fox News reporter he’s ‘ashamed’ to carry out Trump’s order on the Kurds

A special forces soldier spoke to Fox News national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin and confessed they were “ashamed.”

“I just spoke to a distraught US Special Forces soldier who is among the 1000 or so US troops in Syria tonight who is serving alongside the SDF Kurdish forces,” Griffin tweeted Wednesday evening.

She also said that it was one of the hardest phone calls she’s ever taken.

“I am ashamed for the first time in my career,” the soldier told her. “Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It’s horrible.”

According to Griffin, this soldier has helped train local forces on the ground in multiple continents. Tonight, he is on the ground “witnessing Turkish atrocities.”

Turkey has been after the Kurds since the late 1970s, before most of the soldiers in the military were even born. The U.S. worked with the Kurds to fight back against ISIS in Syria, but now they’re facing attacks from another foe entirely. Already, civilians are dead at the hands of Turkey’s attacks.

He explained to Griffin that the Kurds “are as close to Western thinking in the Middle East as anyone.”

“We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement. There was NO threat to the Turks – NONE – from this side of the border,” the soldier told Griffin. “This is insanity. I don’t know what they call atrocities but they are happening.”

Despite knowing the U.S. was supposed to be pulling out and Turkey was on its way to bomb them, the Kurdish people stayed to ensure someone was guarding ISIS prisoners, the soldier told Griffin.

“They prevented a prison break last night without us,” the soldier said. “They are not abandoning our side (yet).”

But they are “pleading for our support.” but the U.S. is doing “nothing.” He said that he anticipates the ISIS fighters will likely be “free in the coming days and weeks.”

He was surprised that Trump made that decision Sunday, he said.

“Trump doesn’t understand the problem. He doesn’t understand the repercussions of this. Erdogan is an Islamist, not a level-headed actor,” he said. “This is not helping the ISIS fight.”

“The Kurds are sticking by us. No other partner I have ever dealt with would stand by us,”
I just listened to an Army combat medic on a phone... (show quote)


You may be right in your thinking, but we sure as hell do not need another Iraq.

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Oct 9, 2019 21:43:24   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Bcon wrote:
You may be right in your thinking, but we sure as hell do not need another Iraq.
You mean like pulling out and allowing Islamists (ISIS) to fill the vacuum?

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Oct 9, 2019 21:50:10   #
Bcon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You mean like pulling out and allowing Islamists (ISIS) to fill the vacuum?


That was Obama surrendering a war that was already one but did nothing for America but take thousands of American lives. What did we gain from it. When the Saddam Hussein was in power, although he was not who I would want to rule, at least he kept Iran at a stalemate and not an active threat to the west. Most wars are not worth fighting.

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Oct 9, 2019 22:04:47   #
Radiance3
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Kurds are peaceful?


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Among the Muslims in the Middle East, Kurds act more civilized as I have monitored them during the Iraq war. They were the armies who assisted the allied forces against the toppling of Iraq dictator Sadam. Kurds have more human compassion to the Christians who were brutally attacked during the Iraq war. They have allowed the Christians hide in their territory otherwise most of them were slaughtered.

And during the ISIS was Kurds had assisted the US forces combat ISIS from Syria and Iraq. Christians in Iraq were the oldest Christians in the world. Kurds have been loyal to the US.

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Oct 9, 2019 22:08:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Bcon wrote:
That was Obama surrendering a war that was already one but did nothing for America but take thousands of American lives. What did we gain from it. When the Saddam Hussein was in power, although he was not who I would want to rule, at least he kept Iran at a stalemate and not an active threat to the west. Most wars are not worth fighting.


Well said

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Oct 9, 2019 22:09:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Among the Muslims in the Middle East, Kurds act more civilized as I have monitored them during the Iraq war. They were the armies who assisted the allied forces against the toppling of Iraq dictator Sadam. Kurds have more human compassion to the Christians who were brutally attacked during the Iraq war. They have allowed the Christians hide in their territory otherwise most of them were slaughtered.

And during the ISIS was Kurds had assisted the US forces combat ISIS from Syria and Iraq. Christians in Iraq were the oldest Christians in the world. Kurds have been loyal to the US.
================ br Among the Muslims in the Middl... (show quote)


So Muslims who ally with y'all are more civilized?

Try to remember who it was that aided Saddam once upon a time.. Hint: mirror

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Oct 9, 2019 22:25:35   #
Radiance3
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
So Muslims who ally with y'all are more civilized?

Try to remember who it was that aided Saddam once upon a time.. Hint: mirror


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Prove it.

A UN allied official with Sadam both in cahoots using the UN funds to aid the sufferering Iraqi people. But UN and Sadam both had their hands on it, and UN fundng did not benefit the suffering Iraqis.

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Oct 9, 2019 22:28:29   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
Yes,but even Trump's allies think it was a mistake!!

our border is a war zone, lets take care of the messes the leftists created here

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