You See Nothing Wrong With Trump Talking To Erdogan And Immediately Announcing A Withdrawal....? (Page 2): I was disgusted by the CNBC one... That is piss poor reporting by any...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

PeterS wrote:

It's as if google hasn't even been invented. Read ... (show quote)

I was disgusted by the CNBC one... That is piss poor reporting by any standards... Shameful...

And it didn't mention dates of a phone call...or even a phone call...

PeterS

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Just want to point out that none of the articles even attempts to sound unbiased... Other than the second....

It's the content of the article, not any perceived bias that's important. My point was that there were literally thousands of articles on Trump's latest presidential foot in the mouth glitch. Whether those articles contained bias wasn't in your question and so long as they are truthful are a completely irrelevant position.

And let me ask you something, did Blade Runners' explanation sound more unbiased to your ideological eardrums? So do a google search and verify what he says. My point is that what we perceive to be unbiased is simply the bias we trust and want to hear not necessarily the unbiased truth...

PeterS

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I was disgusted by the CNBC one... That is piss poor reporting by any standards... Shameful...

And it didn't mention dates of a phone call...or even a phone call...

Here is one where Erdogan is speaking about the call...no reporting at all. If you don't trust what Erdogan has to say go back to Fox News...

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/turkey-s-president-erdogan-says-call-with-led-to-u-s-withdrawal-from-turkey-syria-border-70758981577

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

PeterS wrote:

It's the content of the article, not any perceived bias that's important. My point was that there were literally thousands of articles on Trump's latest presidential foot in the mouth glitch. Whether those articles contained bias wasn't in your question and so long as they are truthful are a completely irrelevant position.

Thousands and thousands... And yet the OP neglected to post a source and later admitted to not being familiar with the content... Which was my point....

Whether they contain bias is of great concern... As many of them speculate as to why he made the decision without offering any facts to support that speculation...

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And let me ask you something, did Blade Runners' explanation sound more unbiased to your ideological eardrums? So do a google search and verify what he says. My point is that what we perceive to be unbiased is simply the bias we trust and want to hear not necessarily the unbiased truth...

Blade did not address my query...
His article was partial and (I believe) without a link....

I agree concerning bias vs non-bias...

Here is what I have pieced together so far...(please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or missing information)

1. Trump and Edagorn spoke earlier in the week... One of the issues discussed was Turkey planning an offensive in Syria against the Kurds...

2. Trump decided to remove a number of military personnel from the area that Turkey intends to hit... They are a small part of the American forces in Syria... The rest will stay where they are...

3. These personnel are there for the purposes of training the Kurds (in the use of all the lovely military ordinance your nation has so kindly supplied them with)...

4. These personnel are not being called home... Merely shifted to a safer part of Syria... This may change in the future as Trump is intent on removing America from these pointless conflicts...

5. The point of equipping and training the Kurds was so that they could fight their own battles....

If Turkey initiates a strike America has two options... Pull back or full out war...

Seems to me that it was just a few short weeks ago that everyone was screaming about the possibility of a war with Iran...

Edagorn was polite enough to issue a friendly heads up... Allowing the US to remove personnel from the area...I understand this to be quite normal between nations that don't wish war with each other... I believe America did this with Russia when retaliating against Assad... One should think to be grateful...

What would you have Trump do if Turkey attacks the Kurds?
Draw a line in the sand

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

PeterS wrote:

Here is one where Erdogan is speaking about the call...no reporting at all. If you don't trust what Erdogan has to say go back to Fox News...

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/turkey-s-president-erdogan-says-call-with-led-to-u-s-withdrawal-from-turkey-syria-border-70758981577

This appears to confirm my findings...

In don't particularly care for FOX... I like Tucker..But he is an opinion piece...Not news...

The Five occasionally made me laugh... Then Juan and Jessie ruined it with their bickering...

If one takes an article and removes all supposition and colorful adjectives, one might stumble upon a fact or two... Not always though.. The bar is pretty low these days...

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Not To Forget, Whatever You May Feel
Turkey Is A NATO Ally

Kevyn

woodguru wrote:

We are involved with dozens of partners and allies... (show quote)

Our closest allies in that part of the world are not the Israelis or the Turks, they are the Kurds who have stood steadfastly by us since Papa Bush launched Oil War One. This is a betrayal that is inexcusable and has been denounced by republicans and democrats alike. To figure out the driving factor in this monumental act of treacherous buffoonery one need only look to Istanbul for the answer, because now the driving factor of the relationship the US has with Turkey lies in Istanbul, it is not common defense against Russia, and it matters more to the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer than the sacrifice and lives of our service members or our allies. It matters more than controlling our enemy the Russians or containing ISIL. You see something of monumental importance lies in Istanbul; Trump tower.

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

And Here's This From Reuters Regarding The Kurds
Dated Oct. 6
Trump threatens Turkey with 'extremely decimated economy' over Syria
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-extremely-decimated-economy-over-syria-idUSKBN1WL0IS?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%29

You'll LOVE The Wording Of His Tweet, Kev....

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

woodguru wrote:

We are involved with dozens of partners and allies... (show quote)

I don't care what any body else has to say. trump acted on his own against the Pentagon and stabbed the Kurds in the back. We the United States of America do not abandon our allies in favor of those who would destroy them.

Kevyn

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I don't care what any body else has to say. trump acted on his own against the Pentagon and stabbed the Kurds in the back. We the United States of America do not abandon our allies in favor of those who would destroy them.

Not unless there is a real estate deal involved, then all bets are off.

Lonewolf

Kevyn wrote:

Not unless there is a real estate deal involved, then all bets are off.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I don't care what any body else has to say. trump acted on his own against the Pentagon and stabbed the Kurds in the back. We the United States of America do not abandon our allies in favor of those who would destroy them.

He hasn't done anything yet. It was the pentagon who wanted to relocate the 50 or so who recently were moved to avoid crossfire. The Trump hating media is spinning this WAY off base!

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Blade did not address my query... br His article ... (show quote)

Pete's part of the push for WWIII and he hasn't figured it out.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Kevyn wrote:

Not unless there is a real estate deal involved, then all bets are off.

All bets have been off since Trump won. We've put up with BS, lies and liberal tantrums for 3 years and now we will deconstruct Democrat leadership like were doing to the Republicans.

Prepare for a Republican House, Senate, Presidency and Trump to confirm at least 1 and possibly 2 Supreme Court justices.

Have a nice day.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Lonewolf wrote:

Trump just set up the House leadership.

This is gonna be good.