Second hand whistle blower claim.
I have asked this earlier today. Can anyone show us a whistle blower complaint besides this one which is second hand information??
nwtk2007 wrote:
I have asked this earlier today. Can anyone show us a whistle blower complaint besides this one which is second hand information??
How about most of the fake news?
nwtk2007 wrote:
I have asked this earlier today. Can anyone show us a whistle blower complaint besides this one which is second hand information??
The ig said it contained 1st and 2nd class information
There's A New Leak That Says
The 'Whistle Blower' Standards Were Changed For This Case
Also Atkinson Alleges 'First Hand Knowledge' Box
Was Checked On The Original Old Form
Do I Smell A Dis-Grundled 'John Bolton' ??
They need to shove that whistle down the whisteblowers throat. He’s got about as much to talk about as the whistler’s mother. He needs to stay out of mischief go sit with his mother on the porch and watch the sun go down!
Lonewolf wrote:
The ig said it contained 1st and 2nd class information
Hmm, the complaint I read was all second hand info.
karpenter wrote:
There's A New Leak That Says
The 'Whistle Blower' Standards Were Changed For This Case
Also Atkinson Alleges 'First Hand Knowledge' Box
Was Checked On The Original Old Form
Do I Smell A Dis-Grundled 'John Bolton' ??
Definitely the form was changed which said it had to be first hand info. It would seem that original versions of the law itself are not to be found.
nwtk2007 wrote:
I have asked this earlier today. Can anyone show us a whistle blower complaint besides this one which is second hand information??
Have no fear, the deep state holdovers will be coming out of the woodwork to continue their attempted coup.
Lonewolf wrote:
The ig said it contained 1st and 2nd class information
You mean 1st and 2nd hand, not class, information and it had none of the 1st.
working class stiff wrote:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/no-the-intelligence-community-did-not-eliminate-a-firsthand-knowledge-requirement-for-the-ukraine-whistleblower
Common misconceptions. One major misconception about the hearsay rule is that hearsay is never admissible in court. While the general rule is that such evidence is inadmissible, there are many exceptions. ... The hearsay rule applies to all out-of-court statements whether oral, written or otherwise.
Law - no hearsay from out of court statements whether oral, written or otherwise. The reason being that the person can be brought before the court and repeat the information under oath, emphasizing that the person did not actually see or hear the information, at which time they must produce the source, at which time they can be called as a witness to testify under oath about THEIR first hand information.
Sooner or later, the whistle blower and his sources will have to testify if there really is am impeachment trial. Refusal would surely result in a dismissal and Trump stays in office.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Common misconceptions. One major misconception about the hearsay rule is that hearsay is never admissible in court. While the general rule is that such evidence is inadmissible, there are many exceptions. ... The hearsay rule applies to all out-of-court statements whether oral, written or otherwise.
Law - no hearsay from out of court statements whether oral, written or otherwise. The reason being that the person can be brought before the court and repeat the information under oath, emphasizing that the person did not actually see or hear the information, at which time they must produce the source, at which time they can be called as a witness to testify under oath about THEIR first hand information.
Sooner or later, the whistle blower and his sources will have to testify if there really is am impeachment trial. Refusal would surely result in a dismissal and Trump stays in office.
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What has the whistle-blower to testify about? The text of the call is public and none of the whistle-blowers "fears" have been shown to be justified. Throw the complaint in the garbage and move on.
nwtk2007 wrote:
I have asked this earlier today. Can anyone show us a whistle blower complaint besides this one which is second hand information??
No limits on the admission of hear-say evidence?
No right to face one's accuser?
Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread.
Gatsby wrote:
No limits on the admission of hear-say evidence?
No right to face one's accuser?
Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread.
Perhaps if Trump hadn't threatened the whistle blower he or she might be more amenable to going public.
“I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that’s close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”
Trump will be facing his accusers....the House. The whistle blower, by all accounts, followed the law. The repercussions are out of their control. Trump and the administration will be facing their accusers if there is an impeachment.
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