Tug484

Tug484

I like her, too.
She should have been in the last debate, but she's not nutty enough for them.
She polled higher than Beto and the other guy.
I can't remember if it was Booker, but today Booker gave us a new name to go with deplorable. We are also dispicable.
I would like to sue them for what they call us.
It shouldn't be allowed.

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

You are right..We should sue Hillary... and any dem that thinks its ok to call us deplorable or dispicable! It's called Defamation!.. But sadly.. though that could work... we'd have to also take responsibility for what we call them.. Libtards... Lunatic Left... there are I am sure more that we have called them over the years.. Not least of which lately has been seditionous or treasonous.. which they have.. however we should probably Not follow that line of thinking as it could come back and bite us in the ass as they are not the only one's slingin slurs... Just sayin!

Tug484

I agree.
I've called them some pretty tacky names.

Cadillac

No Pence would select a VP. But before that happened the second revolution would begin.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

No, If the marxist leftists impeach him we will simply put DJT on the ballot and re-elect him=all legal
Now watch the leftist's try to refute what I just wrote

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Yup.. you can... some states require the candidate to have certification.. however DJT has more than enough certification having been our president for 4 years...by the time of his first term being completed... In my humble opinion all this bullshit with the left is goin to Implode the Dem party!!... between all these witch hunts and corruption comin from hillary and her cronies... and AOC and her blatant disrespect of anyone in her own party that disagrees the fraud on Omar's part.. Kamala Harris's voting record and prosecution record speaks for itself.. once in office she will Like Most dems reneg on her campaign promises.. Unlike Trump that has set out to do and has accomplished most of what he promised campaign wise.. My sis lives in PA and she's happy with the upward spiraling employment.. she's in real estate so it is a good thing for her that people are working and perhaps buying new homes... This country was Founded on the Pursuit of happiness .. which sometimes comes with financial prosperity.. so Bravo Trump!!! MAGA!!!

Tug484

Love it.
I figure if he gets impeached, we are going to have a civil war.

PeterS

I'll stick with these candidates, my first vote would be for Buttigieg and my second vote would be for whoever won my party--unless it was someone like Trump who didn't have the moral qualities necessary to be president. And I did that in 92 and 96 BTW when I didn't think Bill Clinton was morally fit to be president of this once great country. And what I really think is wrong with this country is that we put people in office simply because we are terrified of the opposition. That was Donald Trumps only qualification--he wasn't Hillary Clinton. And that would be bad enough but now the right has made Trump a political genius when the man has trouble cobbling two sentences together to make a coherent statement. By compromising our ethics we we have to turn our vote into someone more than he is to justify our support for him. So not only do we get a bad president but we are turned into bad people on top of that.

As for Fascism, it is a predominantly a right-wing ideology. Marxism, Socialism, and Communism are the left-wing moral equivalents.

Below is a poster that is sold in the Holocaust Museum listing the traits of Fascism. Why don't you go down and check off which ones are common to us Liberals and which ones are common to you Conservatives. Let me know afterwards what you checked off and we can have a debate. Deal?

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

WE didn't do this Y'all did:
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the grounds that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.



Note by Webmaster: The Congressional Record back this far has not be digitized and posted on the Internet.

It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal repository. Call them and ask them.

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Another source are your Congress Critters. They should be more than happy to help you in this matter.

You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto interesting at this point.

Click here to see them listed with brain-challenging comments.

Documentation

Webmaster Forest Glen Durland found the document in the library.
Sources are listed below.
The quote starts on page 259.

Microfilm:

California State University at San Jose
Clark Library, Government Floor
Phone (408)924-2770
Microfilm
Call Number:
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Congressional Record, Vol. 109
88th Congress, 1st Session
Appendix Pages A1-A2842
Jan. 9-May 7, 1963
Reel 12

The book was found in the off campus stacks, was ordered and checked. The quote below was checked against the original and is correct. The few errors in the copy from the Congressional Record are shown in [ ] .

The quote starts on page 259.

California State University at San Jose, Clark Library stacks call number:
Naked Communist
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Book title page:
Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist
Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.

Can you tell me Peter, Which of these have yet to come to pass because frankly I see everything on that list having come to pass much like the Dixie Crats and their KKK.. that was NOT conservtives that was straight up LIBERAL Progressive!!... I voted for Trump, Not because I hated Hitlery.. I do but that's not why...I voted for Trump ( Again don't care what he did in his past before he became our POTUS) I voted for Trump because he was NOT a career politician, I voted for him because I knew he wouldn't take shit from the Likes of the UN and their NWO... Nor would he bow down and kiss the Saudi Kings ring.. something that was UNpresidented... Thank you OBummer!... I voted for him because he is a Business man...and this US of A is a Business.. frankly speaking.. I wanted someone that could raise money for this country.. and since he is NOT taking a paycheck I had WAY more faith in him than ANY Dem or GOP'er.. So far from friends of mine all over the globe as well as the US. have told me they are Better off bc of Trump.. Only 34% of people in this country actually want to see him Impeached Most of us do NOT and even being impeached doesn't say he won't be president for another term.. look at Blow job Billy Clinton.. he was impeached and won another term.. I just think it's rediculous that Pelosi stated that articles of impeachement will be drawn up without Evidence...Zero Zip Nada.. get over yourselves.. Not just you Peter but All y'all liberals..Trump will be president again in 2020.. I'll pass you a valuim when y'all lose

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

That's really dumb. In fact all this left/right fascist/socialist/communist/nationalist/liberal/conservative supremacy crap has no up or down components, no vertical reference, no absolute moral reference. It is all linear strife in which no moral equivalency can be found.

In his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize, Martin Luther King, jr. said this:

I accept this award today with an abiding faith in America and an audacious faith in the future of mankind. I refuse to accept despair as the final response to the ambiguities of history. I refuse to accept the idea that the “isness” of man’s present nature makes him morally incapable of reaching up for the eternal “oughtness” that forever confronts him. I refuse to accept the idea that man is mere flotsom and jetsom in the river of life, unable to influence the unfolding events which surround him. I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality.

I refuse to accept the cynical notion that nation after nation must spiral down a militaristic stairway into the hell of thermonuclear destruction. I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality.

Unarmed truth - a truth that needs no defense.
Unconditional love - a love without boundaries, without limits, without qualification.

There is no political philosophy and no ideological movement that can achieve this goal, and there is no exact science that can quantify a law for truth and love.

Tug484

Thank you and thank you for posting that.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Yeah, got to be him, he is a worthless Rino!

1ProudAmerican

Idaho stated, "Pelosi would only become President if both the President and Vice President were permanently incapacitated." … as in, per the Clintons. If they "suicide" enough people maybe she COULD become president...LOL

Louis

If the Senate votes Trump out of office, then VP Pence will become President and he will pick a Vice President of his own choosing. Pelosi will remain speaker of the house.