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Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I am curious to what your point is.

That was a partial quote of others, ReverseDiversity, which leads to confusion.
so I repeat:


eagleye13 wrote:
The Assassination of JFK: Who was the “Mastermind” — Johnson or Dulles?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/phillip-f-nelson/the-assassination-of-jfk-who-was-the-mastermind-johnson-or-dulles/

Is that E. Howard Hunt in Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK’s Assassination? Indubitably.

Was it mere serendipity that caused all of the highest-level men behind the plot to kill President Kennedy to come together and develop a plot to assassinate Kennedy? Or was there a single man who had the forcefulness, the cunning guile, the ruthlessness, and a history of criminal, even murderous, acts and the subsequent power to assure the others that it would be covered up for all time, that there was nothing to worry about?

It took someone with extreme powers of persuasion — like Lyndon B. Johnson, inventor of the famous device called the “Johnson Treatment” who had built a lifetime record of experience pulling people together to accomplish his most nefarious objectives. He was uniquely equipped to accomplish these most brazen and audacious crimes: the criminal ones like stolen elections, flagrant abuse of campaign fund handling, murders of people who got in his way. He had practiced his methods for decades, and had accumulated the kind of expertise required to have pulled together and led the powerful men who agreed to the plan to kill President Kennedy.

LBJ: The Mastermind of...
Phillip F. Nelson
Check Amazon for Pricing.


Such a person had to be driven by passion, and there was no one in Washington who even came close to him in that qualification—certainly not the rather introverted, cerebral, pipe-smoking, tweed-jacketed Princeton alumnus who had previously presided over the CIA, nor the equally deluded and aged head of SOG (his term for “Seat of Government,” being his own government-issued heavy-duty desk chair) J. Edgar Hoover—who also had tentacles throughout the federal bureaucracy but not nearly equal to the powers that Johnson had amassed.

The catalyst behind the assassination had to have been a singular “driving force” who had to have connections to all the key people in multiple agencies of the federal government as well as to local officials in Dallas, Texas (the previous schemes in Chicago and Miami were most likely merely test runs to assure that all contingencies had been anticipated and that the men involved had been properly prepared for the real event). The “key man” had to have the ability to push all the right buttons and get those people—some unwittingly, with only a limited scope of knowledge of the overall plan—to take actions on his command.

He was acting as a forceful CEO of an enterprise that would primarily benefit himself, but sold to the others as being necessary for accomplishing their own interests, whether that be a more aggressive foreign policy, especially toward Vietnam, an end to the “peace process” with the USSR that Kennedy had implemented, a stop to the threat he had introduced to the power of the Federal Reserve, or simply a change to the apparent slippage toward socialism that many feared. Only a very powerful force, a “colossus” as described by none other than Bill Moyers, could have possibly been the driving force that was the essential ingredient, the “critical mass.”

The enterprise, like all major undertakings of humanity, required a powerful catalyst to give it momentum, direction, and the subsequent promise of protection that all the players would expect, a promise that only LBJ could make effectively. That catalyst would have to reach into not only all the federal agencies, especially the military and intelligence organizations, but just as certainly into the state and local authorities in order to simultaneously ignite the fuses within each; it would take a unified “driving force” to do that, and Lyndon Johnson was uniquely capable of providing that kind of reach into every such entity. That element could have only come from a very powerful and dedicated single person, a very forceful person, one who could bring all the elements together. Some may prefer other terms, such as a “CEO,” a “Key Man,” a “Linchpin,” or even the term I’ve used, a “Mastermind,” but that person, regardless of the label one prefers, could only have been a man consumed by power and obsessed for decades about becoming president.

The accumulated evidence demonstrates beyond doubt that Lyndon Johnson really was smart enough to have “masterminded” the plot to kill JFK (a point that many incorrectly believe excludes him from being a worthy candidate for this title). It must be remembered that the dictionary definition of this term means that he did not have to develop the entire plan, merely the germ of the idea, where the people he recruited (e.g. Dulles, among others) would be delegated that responsibility. No other candidate for that role comes close to the manic Johnson, pushing and pulling the other key people to stay on task, including the trial runs (“beta tests” as they might be called today) planned for Chicago and Miami in the weeks before the Texas trip.

For those who insist it was the introverted Allen Dulles — someone without personal connections to such other key people as James Rowley in the Secret Service, or even J. Edgar Hoover, with whom he had battled for turf that he considered his own — a man who in 1963 only had sway with others through an established linear hierarchy, within which he could receive input and issue orders, an obvious question arises: How could he do that when he had been fired two years earlier from his position of power and authority over many others?

Could the champion of the cause be a chameleon, operating from the shadows of power, a man who held no official power? Such a predicate would implicitly require a secret organization, presumably run from some camouflaged boardroom in Washington, complete with all the management tools available in 1963 in order to harness all the disparate people and entities involved. Apparently, based upon what little is known about the structure of this “invisible government,” this mysterious group of men was run by a nameless board of directors, each of whom had an equal, albeit secret, vote.

The premise would necessarily require the existence of an entirely separate organization, an enterprise dedicated to a presidential assassination. If that were the case, does it not follow that the authority residing within such a structure designed to carry out the mission of this “invisible government” had to be conferred upon him when he was chosen for the position by some very powerful men? Are we to infer, in that scenario, that Allen Dulles issued his deadly orders as the enigmatic, albeit secret, CEO, through an amorphous group of anonymous men at the helm of this invisible government?

One might be excused for intuiting this description to be what is essentially the “status quo” with respect to the present state of the investigation into the death of President Kennedy; that’s because it is, and it is precisely where many people would prefer to leave it. Moreover, it can be imputed that the only effective way to run such an organization and allocate its power must necessarily involve the use of standard operational procedures common to such enterprises, developed to ensure orderly deliberation and debate—such devices as Robert’s Rules of Order. Was a simple majority enough, or was a super majority vote required for such a committee to reach a consensus vote to murder the president? Yes, of course this scenario is absurd, which is why such a construct fails this elementary test of logic.

Yet it was indeed a consensus of such powerful men—a confluence of common interests—who were recruited for the purpose. But the missing element in the above scenario is a nucleus for the organization: a single “driving force”. It is axiomatic that such a catalyst could only exist within a single very powerful source, so potent a force that it could only emanate from the one man who could guarantee complete protection for the key people to be recruited; so powerful that it could only exist through a man so “formidable” (as Robert Kennedy once admitted Johnson was), that he could control multiple departments and agencies—law enforcement, intelligence, judicial and investigative—on the federal, state of Texas and city of Dallas levels.

Such a powerful driving force, axiomatically, could only come from a man who was manic by nature: it could only be given life by a man having a lifetime obsession to become president of the United States. That force had to have sprung from a man driven by hunger for greater power, as Robert Caro once described Lyndon B. Johnson’s lust for power: “a hunger so fierce and consuming that no consideration of morality or ethics, no cost to himself—or to anyone else—could stand before it” [Emphasis added.]. The best candidate for being the “driving force” was one whose favorite expression was “power is where power goes” and whose entire career was based upon the inherent premise of that very expression.

In 1963, Lyndon B. Johnson was the most powerful man in the United States, in some ways even more so than John F. Kennedy, owing to the “back channel” alliances he had developed within the Pentagon and CIA. As noted within that link, researchers John M. Newman and Peter Dale Scott have acknowledged that LBJ had access to much greater classified national security data than did JFK. His direct connections to the military and intelligence organizations and law enforcement agencies of the federal government and the state of Texas were unimpeded by the many clashes that John F. Kennedy had experienced with those same chieftains.

Clearly, the “invisible government” was behind the assassination of the president, but — as many researchers fail to realize — in 1963 Lyndon B. Johnson was the CEO of that entity, through the use of the power he was ceded from all of the groups he controlled: from the Texas oil barons; from the heads of the FBI, the CIA, the SS, the NSA; from the financial power centers and his own campaign financial backers like Abe Fineberg and Arthur Krim and all of their loyalists: In sum, it was the zeitgeist of all the anti-Kennedy groups noted elsewhere, in the “establishment” side of politicos at its peak in 1963.

This kind of power was best illustrated by Johnson’s close connections through J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, H. L. Hunt, Irving Davidson, Fred Black, and Bobby Baker to Mafiosi throughout the country such as Carlos Marcello, Johnny Rosselli and Sam Giancana, et al., and through the CIA’s James Angleton, Cord Meyer, Bill Harvey, and David Morales on down to the numerous Cuban exiles — pretty much as summarized by E. Howard Hunt in his deathbed confession.

These were all men whom Lyndon Johnson had developed for many years, decades even, insinuating himself as closely and personally as he could, using methods (or Johnson “Treatments”) customized for his selected prey. That kind of power was unique to Lyndon Johnson, no one else in Washington had worked so hard to accrue it and practice it and hone its edges with every iteration: He alone possessed that kind of power in 1963. The record of his astounding success stands, even now, half a century later, and thus becomes the biggest proof of his pivotal role: The claim of the title “Mastermind” is proven, ironically, by the even grander title “Colossus,” which best represents his real legacy of having achieved the highest office in the land, his resolve established when he was merely a child and later a high school bully. His lifetime of corruption and criminal behavior attest to the fact that his character traits were consistent over his entire lifetime.

There are many other trails that lead inexorably to a logically based conclusion that Lyndon Johnson was the “driving force” behind JFK’s assassination. Billie Sol Estes is another source, whose 1984 testimony to a Texas Grand Jury about Johnson’s role — as he uniquely saw it from the “inside” — in his belated efforts to redeem himself was compelling evidence to the same point. It is almost an axiom requiring no further proof that, because LBJ fulfilled all of the requirements for that role and that no one else was even close, he was uniquely qualified for the position of CEO of what he himself called “Murder Incorporated.”

Lyndon had not only forced himself onto the ticket in Los Angeles in 1960 by threatening to destroy JFK using information provided to him by J. Edgar Hoover but he even sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place weeks before the assassination. And after the event, he took an active role in managing the cover up, calling DA Henry Wade directly to ensure that he would stop speaking about “a possible conspiracy” and even calling Charles Crenshaw, M.D., who was then treating the alleged assassin Lee H. Oswald at Parkland Hospital, to ask for “a deathbed confession”. Lyndon Johnson was a “hands on” guy who left nothing to chance.....
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In a fair society Johnson would have been convicted of conspiracy to assassinate the the President.

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Sep 26, 2019 16:24:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
byronglimish wrote:
In a fair society Johnson would have been convicted of conspiracy to assassinate the the President.


Yep with an honest judicial system.
The PTB/CIA,etc. got away with assassinating our president.

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Sep 27, 2019 09:51:38   #
currahee506
 
I believe LBJ was a "FED" man. When "The Bank" is threatened, like a snake it bites back. Its "red flag" was Kennedy's ordering the printing of the "Congressional Dollar" backed by silver commodity. His hope was the replacement of the "FED" dollar, now termed, by Kissenger, the "Petro-dollar."

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Sep 27, 2019 10:34:09   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
currahee506 wrote:
I believe LBJ was a "FED" man. When "The Bank" is threatened, like a snake it bites back. Its "red flag" was Kennedy's ordering the printing of the "Congressional Dollar" backed by silver commodity. His hope was the replacement of the "FED" dollar, now termed, by Kissenger, the "Petro-dollar."


When a President goes after the Banker's scam/money, they put their lives in danger.
Abraham Lincoln
William McKinley
John F Kennedy
Congressman Louis T. McFadden (several attempted assassinations)


Congressman McFadden
on the Federal Reserve Corporation
Remarks in Congress, 1934
AN ASTOUNDING EXPOSURE
________________________________________
Reprinted by permission 1978 Arizona Caucus Club
________________________________________
Congressman McFadden's Speech
On the Federal Reserve Corporation
Quotations from several speeches made on the Floor of the House of Representatives by the Honorable Louis T. McFadden of Pennsylvania. Mr. McFadden, due to his having served as Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee for more than 10 years, was the best posted man on these matters in America and was in a position to speak with authority of the vast ramifications of this gigantic private credit monopoly. As Representative of a State which was among the first to declare its freedom from foreign money tyrants it is fitting that Pennsylvania, the cradle of liberty, be again given the credit for producing a son that was not afraid to hurl defiance in the face of the money-bund. Whereas Mr. McFadden was elected to the high office on both the Democratic and Republican tickets, there can be no accusation of partisanship lodged against him. Because these speeches are set out in full in the Congressional Record, they carry weight that no amount of condemnation on the part of private individuals could hope to carry.
The Federal Reserve-A Corrupt Institution
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.
"This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
"Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. ….. (For the whole expose – Google: Congressman McFadden Fed expose)
"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any.
"In 1912 the National Monetary Association, under the chairmanship of the late Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, made a report and presented a vicious bill called the National Reserve Association bill. This bill is usually spoken of as the Aldrich bill. Senator Aldrich did not write the Aldrich bill. He was the tool, if not the accomplice, of the European bankers who for nearly twenty years had been scheming to set up a central bank in this Country and who in 1912 has spent and were continuing to spend vast sums of money to accomplish their purpose.
"We were opposed to the Aldrich plan for a central bank. The men who rule the Democratic Party then promised the people that if they were returned to power there would be no central bank established here while they held the reigns of government. Thirteen months later that promise was broken, and the Wilson administration, under the tutelage of those sinister Wall Street figures who stood behind Colonel House, established here in our free Country the worm-eaten monarchical institution of the "King's Bank" to control us from the top downward, and from the cradle to the grave. ……..
PRESIDENT JACKSON'S TIME
"One of the greatest battles for the preservation of this Republic was fought out here in Jackson's time; when the second Bank of the United States, founded on the same false principles of those which are here exemplified in the Fed was hurled out of existence. After that, in 1837, the Country was warned against the dangers that might ensue if the predatory interests after being cast out should come back in disguise and unite themselves to the Executive and through him acquire control of the Government. …..
"The danger that the Country was warned against came upon us and is shown in the long train of horrors attendant upon the affairs of the traitorous and dishonest Fed. Look around you when you leave this Chamber and you will see evidences of it in all sides. This is an era of misery and for the conditions that caused that misery, the Fed are fully liable. This is an era of financed crime and in the financing of crime the Fed does not play the part of a disinterested spectator. … "The Fed became law the day before Christmas Eve, in the year 1913, and shortly afterwards, the German International bankers, Kuhn, Loeb and Co. sent one of their partners here to run it.
THE GREAT DEPRESSION
"Meanwhile and on account of it, we ourselves are in the midst of the greatest depression we have ever known. From the Atlantic to the Pacific, our Country has been ravaged and laid waste by the evil practices of the Fed and the interests which control them. At no time in our history, has the general welfare of the people been at a lower level or the minds of the people so full of despair. …. As Agents of the foreign central banks the Fed try by every means in their power to reduce our favorable balance of trade. (Remember; this warning was written in 1933)

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Sep 27, 2019 16:37:07   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The Assassination of JFK: Who was the “Mastermind” — Johnson or Dulles?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/phillip-f-nelson/the-assassination-of-jfk-who-was-the-mastermind-johnson-or-dulles/

Is that E. Howard Hunt in Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK’s Assassination? Indubitably.

Was it mere serendipity that caused all of the highest-level men behind the plot to kill President Kennedy to come together and develop a plot to assassinate Kennedy? Or was there a single man who had the forcefulness, the cunning guile, the ruthlessness, and a history of criminal, even murderous, acts and the subsequent power to assure the others that it would be covered up for all time, that there was nothing to worry about?

It took someone with extreme powers of persuasion — like Lyndon B. Johnson, inventor of the famous device called the “Johnson Treatment” who had built a lifetime record of experience pulling people together to accomplish his most nefarious objectives. He was uniquely equipped to accomplish these most brazen and audacious crimes: the criminal ones like stolen elections, flagrant abuse of campaign fund handling, murders of people who got in his way. He had practiced his methods for decades, and had accumulated the kind of expertise required to have pulled together and led the powerful men who agreed to the plan to kill President Kennedy.

LBJ: The Mastermind of...
Phillip F. Nelson
Check Amazon for Pricing.


Such a person had to be driven by passion, and there was no one in Washington who even came close to him in that qualification—certainly not the rather introverted, cerebral, pipe-smoking, tweed-jacketed Princeton alumnus who had previously presided over the CIA, nor the equally deluded and aged head of SOG (his term for “Seat of Government,” being his own government-issued heavy-duty desk chair) J. Edgar Hoover—who also had tentacles throughout the federal bureaucracy but not nearly equal to the powers that Johnson had amassed.

The catalyst behind the assassination had to have been a singular “driving force” who had to have connections to all the key people in multiple agencies of the federal government as well as to local officials in Dallas, Texas (the previous schemes in Chicago and Miami were most likely merely test runs to assure that all contingencies had been anticipated and that the men involved had been properly prepared for the real event). The “key man” had to have the ability to push all the right buttons and get those people—some unwittingly, with only a limited scope of knowledge of the overall plan—to take actions on his command.

He was acting as a forceful CEO of an enterprise that would primarily benefit himself, but sold to the others as being necessary for accomplishing their own interests, whether that be a more aggressive foreign policy, especially toward Vietnam, an end to the “peace process” with the USSR that Kennedy had implemented, a stop to the threat he had introduced to the power of the Federal Reserve, or simply a change to the apparent slippage toward socialism that many feared. Only a very powerful force, a “colossus” as described by none other than Bill Moyers, could have possibly been the driving force that was the essential ingredient, the “critical mass.”

The enterprise, like all major undertakings of humanity, required a powerful catalyst to give it momentum, direction, and the subsequent promise of protection that all the players would expect, a promise that only LBJ could make effectively. That catalyst would have to reach into not only all the federal agencies, especially the military and intelligence organizations, but just as certainly into the state and local authorities in order to simultaneously ignite the fuses within each; it would take a unified “driving force” to do that, and Lyndon Johnson was uniquely capable of providing that kind of reach into every such entity. That element could have only come from a very powerful and dedicated single person, a very forceful person, one who could bring all the elements together. Some may prefer other terms, such as a “CEO,” a “Key Man,” a “Linchpin,” or even the term I’ve used, a “Mastermind,” but that person, regardless of the label one prefers, could only have been a man consumed by power and obsessed for decades about becoming president.

The accumulated evidence demonstrates beyond doubt that Lyndon Johnson really was smart enough to have “masterminded” the plot to kill JFK (a point that many incorrectly believe excludes him from being a worthy candidate for this title). It must be remembered that the dictionary definition of this term means that he did not have to develop the entire plan, merely the germ of the idea, where the people he recruited (e.g. Dulles, among others) would be delegated that responsibility. No other candidate for that role comes close to the manic Johnson, pushing and pulling the other key people to stay on task, including the trial runs (“beta tests” as they might be called today) planned for Chicago and Miami in the weeks before the Texas trip.

For those who insist it was the introverted Allen Dulles — someone without personal connections to such other key people as James Rowley in the Secret Service, or even J. Edgar Hoover, with whom he had battled for turf that he considered his own — a man who in 1963 only had sway with others through an established linear hierarchy, within which he could receive input and issue orders, an obvious question arises: How could he do that when he had been fired two years earlier from his position of power and authority over many others?

Could the champion of the cause be a chameleon, operating from the shadows of power, a man who held no official power? Such a predicate would implicitly require a secret organization, presumably run from some camouflaged boardroom in Washington, complete with all the management tools available in 1963 in order to harness all the disparate people and entities involved. Apparently, based upon what little is known about the structure of this “invisible government,” this mysterious group of men was run by a nameless board of directors, each of whom had an equal, albeit secret, vote.

The premise would necessarily require the existence of an entirely separate organization, an enterprise dedicated to a presidential assassination. If that were the case, does it not follow that the authority residing within such a structure designed to carry out the mission of this “invisible government” had to be conferred upon him when he was chosen for the position by some very powerful men? Are we to infer, in that scenario, that Allen Dulles issued his deadly orders as the enigmatic, albeit secret, CEO, through an amorphous group of anonymous men at the helm of this invisible government?

One might be excused for intuiting this description to be what is essentially the “status quo” with respect to the present state of the investigation into the death of President Kennedy; that’s because it is, and it is precisely where many people would prefer to leave it. Moreover, it can be imputed that the only effective way to run such an organization and allocate its power must necessarily involve the use of standard operational procedures common to such enterprises, developed to ensure orderly deliberation and debate—such devices as Robert’s Rules of Order. Was a simple majority enough, or was a super majority vote required for such a committee to reach a consensus vote to murder the president? Yes, of course this scenario is absurd, which is why such a construct fails this elementary test of logic.

Yet it was indeed a consensus of such powerful men—a confluence of common interests—who were recruited for the purpose. But the missing element in the above scenario is a nucleus for the organization: a single “driving force”. It is axiomatic that such a catalyst could only exist within a single very powerful source, so potent a force that it could only emanate from the one man who could guarantee complete protection for the key people to be recruited; so powerful that it could only exist through a man so “formidable” (as Robert Kennedy once admitted Johnson was), that he could control multiple departments and agencies—law enforcement, intelligence, judicial and investigative—on the federal, state of Texas and city of Dallas levels.

Such a powerful driving force, axiomatically, could only come from a man who was manic by nature: it could only be given life by a man having a lifetime obsession to become president of the United States. That force had to have sprung from a man driven by hunger for greater power, as Robert Caro once described Lyndon B. Johnson’s lust for power: “a hunger so fierce and consuming that no consideration of morality or ethics, no cost to himself—or to anyone else—could stand before it” [Emphasis added.]. The best candidate for being the “driving force” was one whose favorite expression was “power is where power goes” and whose entire career was based upon the inherent premise of that very expression.

In 1963, Lyndon B. Johnson was the most powerful man in the United States, in some ways even more so than John F. Kennedy, owing to the “back channel” alliances he had developed within the Pentagon and CIA. As noted within that link, researchers John M. Newman and Peter Dale Scott have acknowledged that LBJ had access to much greater classified national security data than did JFK. His direct connections to the military and intelligence organizations and law enforcement agencies of the federal government and the state of Texas were unimpeded by the many clashes that John F. Kennedy had experienced with those same chieftains.

Clearly, the “invisible government” was behind the assassination of the president, but — as many researchers fail to realize — in 1963 Lyndon B. Johnson was the CEO of that entity, through the use of the power he was ceded from all of the groups he controlled: from the Texas oil barons; from the heads of the FBI, the CIA, the SS, the NSA; from the financial power centers and his own campaign financial backers like Abe Fineberg and Arthur Krim and all of their loyalists: In sum, it was the zeitgeist of all the anti-Kennedy groups noted elsewhere, in the “establishment” side of politicos at its peak in 1963.

This kind of power was best illustrated by Johnson’s close connections through J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, H. L. Hunt, Irving Davidson, Fred Black, and Bobby Baker to Mafiosi throughout the country such as Carlos Marcello, Johnny Rosselli and Sam Giancana, et al., and through the CIA’s James Angleton, Cord Meyer, Bill Harvey, and David Morales on down to the numerous Cuban exiles — pretty much as summarized by E. Howard Hunt in his deathbed confession.

These were all men whom Lyndon Johnson had developed for many years, decades even, insinuating himself as closely and personally as he could, using methods (or Johnson “Treatments”) customized for his selected prey. That kind of power was unique to Lyndon Johnson, no one else in Washington had worked so hard to accrue it and practice it and hone its edges with every iteration: He alone possessed that kind of power in 1963. The record of his astounding success stands, even now, half a century later, and thus becomes the biggest proof of his pivotal role: The claim of the title “Mastermind” is proven, ironically, by the even grander title “Colossus,” which best represents his real legacy of having achieved the highest office in the land, his resolve established when he was merely a child and later a high school bully. His lifetime of corruption and criminal behavior attest to the fact that his character traits were consistent over his entire lifetime.

There are many other trails that lead inexorably to a logically based conclusion that Lyndon Johnson was the “driving force” behind JFK’s assassination. Billie Sol Estes is another source, whose 1984 testimony to a Texas Grand Jury about Johnson’s role — as he uniquely saw it from the “inside” — in his belated efforts to redeem himself was compelling evidence to the same point. It is almost an axiom requiring no further proof that, because LBJ fulfilled all of the requirements for that role and that no one else was even close, he was uniquely qualified for the position of CEO of what he himself called “Murder Incorporated.”

Lyndon had not only forced himself onto the ticket in Los Angeles in 1960 by threatening to destroy JFK using information provided to him by J. Edgar Hoover but he even sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place weeks before the assassination. And after the event, he took an active role in managing the cover up, calling DA Henry Wade directly to ensure that he would stop speaking about “a possible conspiracy” and even calling Charles Crenshaw, M.D., who was then treating the alleged assassin Lee H. Oswald at Parkland Hospital, to ask for “a deathbed confession”. Lyndon Johnson was a “hands on” guy who left nothing to chance.....
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Johnson wanted JFK out of the way so his 'Great Society' could work. He had lots of contacts to do it for him. I never bought the grassy knowle. Wrong trajectory. And a Russian doing it? How spy vs. spy can you get? In his affair with Marilyn Monroe, JFK made many enemies, but he was also protected he thought.

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Sep 27, 2019 16:39:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The Assassination of JFK: Who was the “Mastermind” — Johnson or Dulles?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/phillip-f-nelson/the-assassination-of-jfk-who-was-the-mastermind-johnson-or-dulles/

Is that E. Howard Hunt in Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK’s Assassination? Indubitably.

Was it mere serendipity that caused all of the highest-level men behind the plot to kill President Kennedy to come together and develop a plot to assassinate Kennedy? Or was there a single man who had the forcefulness, the cunning guile, the ruthlessness, and a history of criminal, even murderous, acts and the subsequent power to assure the others that it would be covered up for all time, that there was nothing to worry about?

It took someone with extreme powers of persuasion — like Lyndon B. Johnson, inventor of the famous device called the “Johnson Treatment” who had built a lifetime record of experience pulling people together to accomplish his most nefarious objectives. He was uniquely equipped to accomplish these most brazen and audacious crimes: the criminal ones like stolen elections, flagrant abuse of campaign fund handling, murders of people who got in his way. He had practiced his methods for decades, and had accumulated the kind of expertise required to have pulled together and led the powerful men who agreed to the plan to kill President Kennedy.

LBJ: The Mastermind of...
Phillip F. Nelson
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Such a person had to be driven by passion, and there was no one in Washington who even came close to him in that qualification—certainly not the rather introverted, cerebral, pipe-smoking, tweed-jacketed Princeton alumnus who had previously presided over the CIA, nor the equally deluded and aged head of SOG (his term for “Seat of Government,” being his own government-issued heavy-duty desk chair) J. Edgar Hoover—who also had tentacles throughout the federal bureaucracy but not nearly equal to the powers that Johnson had amassed.

The catalyst behind the assassination had to have been a singular “driving force” who had to have connections to all the key people in multiple agencies of the federal government as well as to local officials in Dallas, Texas (the previous schemes in Chicago and Miami were most likely merely test runs to assure that all contingencies had been anticipated and that the men involved had been properly prepared for the real event). The “key man” had to have the ability to push all the right buttons and get those people—some unwittingly, with only a limited scope of knowledge of the overall plan—to take actions on his command.

He was acting as a forceful CEO of an enterprise that would primarily benefit himself, but sold to the others as being necessary for accomplishing their own interests, whether that be a more aggressive foreign policy, especially toward Vietnam, an end to the “peace process” with the USSR that Kennedy had implemented, a stop to the threat he had introduced to the power of the Federal Reserve, or simply a change to the apparent slippage toward socialism that many feared. Only a very powerful force, a “colossus” as described by none other than Bill Moyers, could have possibly been the driving force that was the essential ingredient, the “critical mass.”

The enterprise, like all major undertakings of humanity, required a powerful catalyst to give it momentum, direction, and the subsequent promise of protection that all the players would expect, a promise that only LBJ could make effectively. That catalyst would have to reach into not only all the federal agencies, especially the military and intelligence organizations, but just as certainly into the state and local authorities in order to simultaneously ignite the fuses within each; it would take a unified “driving force” to do that, and Lyndon Johnson was uniquely capable of providing that kind of reach into every such entity. That element could have only come from a very powerful and dedicated single person, a very forceful person, one who could bring all the elements together. Some may prefer other terms, such as a “CEO,” a “Key Man,” a “Linchpin,” or even the term I’ve used, a “Mastermind,” but that person, regardless of the label one prefers, could only have been a man consumed by power and obsessed for decades about becoming president.

The accumulated evidence demonstrates beyond doubt that Lyndon Johnson really was smart enough to have “masterminded” the plot to kill JFK (a point that many incorrectly believe excludes him from being a worthy candidate for this title). It must be remembered that the dictionary definition of this term means that he did not have to develop the entire plan, merely the germ of the idea, where the people he recruited (e.g. Dulles, among others) would be delegated that responsibility. No other candidate for that role comes close to the manic Johnson, pushing and pulling the other key people to stay on task, including the trial runs (“beta tests” as they might be called today) planned for Chicago and Miami in the weeks before the Texas trip.

For those who insist it was the introverted Allen Dulles — someone without personal connections to such other key people as James Rowley in the Secret Service, or even J. Edgar Hoover, with whom he had battled for turf that he considered his own — a man who in 1963 only had sway with others through an established linear hierarchy, within which he could receive input and issue orders, an obvious question arises: How could he do that when he had been fired two years earlier from his position of power and authority over many others?

Could the champion of the cause be a chameleon, operating from the shadows of power, a man who held no official power? Such a predicate would implicitly require a secret organization, presumably run from some camouflaged boardroom in Washington, complete with all the management tools available in 1963 in order to harness all the disparate people and entities involved. Apparently, based upon what little is known about the structure of this “invisible government,” this mysterious group of men was run by a nameless board of directors, each of whom had an equal, albeit secret, vote.

The premise would necessarily require the existence of an entirely separate organization, an enterprise dedicated to a presidential assassination. If that were the case, does it not follow that the authority residing within such a structure designed to carry out the mission of this “invisible government” had to be conferred upon him when he was chosen for the position by some very powerful men? Are we to infer, in that scenario, that Allen Dulles issued his deadly orders as the enigmatic, albeit secret, CEO, through an amorphous group of anonymous men at the helm of this invisible government?

One might be excused for intuiting this description to be what is essentially the “status quo” with respect to the present state of the investigation into the death of President Kennedy; that’s because it is, and it is precisely where many people would prefer to leave it. Moreover, it can be imputed that the only effective way to run such an organization and allocate its power must necessarily involve the use of standard operational procedures common to such enterprises, developed to ensure orderly deliberation and debate—such devices as Robert’s Rules of Order. Was a simple majority enough, or was a super majority vote required for such a committee to reach a consensus vote to murder the president? Yes, of course this scenario is absurd, which is why such a construct fails this elementary test of logic.

Yet it was indeed a consensus of such powerful men—a confluence of common interests—who were recruited for the purpose. But the missing element in the above scenario is a nucleus for the organization: a single “driving force”. It is axiomatic that such a catalyst could only exist within a single very powerful source, so potent a force that it could only emanate from the one man who could guarantee complete protection for the key people to be recruited; so powerful that it could only exist through a man so “formidable” (as Robert Kennedy once admitted Johnson was), that he could control multiple departments and agencies—law enforcement, intelligence, judicial and investigative—on the federal, state of Texas and city of Dallas levels.

Such a powerful driving force, axiomatically, could only come from a man who was manic by nature: it could only be given life by a man having a lifetime obsession to become president of the United States. That force had to have sprung from a man driven by hunger for greater power, as Robert Caro once described Lyndon B. Johnson’s lust for power: “a hunger so fierce and consuming that no consideration of morality or ethics, no cost to himself—or to anyone else—could stand before it” [Emphasis added.]. The best candidate for being the “driving force” was one whose favorite expression was “power is where power goes” and whose entire career was based upon the inherent premise of that very expression.

In 1963, Lyndon B. Johnson was the most powerful man in the United States, in some ways even more so than John F. Kennedy, owing to the “back channel” alliances he had developed within the Pentagon and CIA. As noted within that link, researchers John M. Newman and Peter Dale Scott have acknowledged that LBJ had access to much greater classified national security data than did JFK. His direct connections to the military and intelligence organizations and law enforcement agencies of the federal government and the state of Texas were unimpeded by the many clashes that John F. Kennedy had experienced with those same chieftains.

Clearly, the “invisible government” was behind the assassination of the president, but — as many researchers fail to realize — in 1963 Lyndon B. Johnson was the CEO of that entity, through the use of the power he was ceded from all of the groups he controlled: from the Texas oil barons; from the heads of the FBI, the CIA, the SS, the NSA; from the financial power centers and his own campaign financial backers like Abe Fineberg and Arthur Krim and all of their loyalists: In sum, it was the zeitgeist of all the anti-Kennedy groups noted elsewhere, in the “establishment” side of politicos at its peak in 1963.

This kind of power was best illustrated by Johnson’s close connections through J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, H. L. Hunt, Irving Davidson, Fred Black, and Bobby Baker to Mafiosi throughout the country such as Carlos Marcello, Johnny Rosselli and Sam Giancana, et al., and through the CIA’s James Angleton, Cord Meyer, Bill Harvey, and David Morales on down to the numerous Cuban exiles — pretty much as summarized by E. Howard Hunt in his deathbed confession.

These were all men whom Lyndon Johnson had developed for many years, decades even, insinuating himself as closely and personally as he could, using methods (or Johnson “Treatments”) customized for his selected prey. That kind of power was unique to Lyndon Johnson, no one else in Washington had worked so hard to accrue it and practice it and hone its edges with every iteration: He alone possessed that kind of power in 1963. The record of his astounding success stands, even now, half a century later, and thus becomes the biggest proof of his pivotal role: The claim of the title “Mastermind” is proven, ironically, by the even grander title “Colossus,” which best represents his real legacy of having achieved the highest office in the land, his resolve established when he was merely a child and later a high school bully. His lifetime of corruption and criminal behavior attest to the fact that his character traits were consistent over his entire lifetime.

There are many other trails that lead inexorably to a logically based conclusion that Lyndon Johnson was the “driving force” behind JFK’s assassination. Billie Sol Estes is another source, whose 1984 testimony to a Texas Grand Jury about Johnson’s role — as he uniquely saw it from the “inside” — in his belated efforts to redeem himself was compelling evidence to the same point. It is almost an axiom requiring no further proof that, because LBJ fulfilled all of the requirements for that role and that no one else was even close, he was uniquely qualified for the position of CEO of what he himself called “Murder Incorporated.”

Lyndon had not only forced himself onto the ticket in Los Angeles in 1960 by threatening to destroy JFK using information provided to him by J. Edgar Hoover but he even sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place weeks before the assassination. And after the event, he took an active role in managing the cover up, calling DA Henry Wade directly to ensure that he would stop speaking about “a possible conspiracy” and even calling Charles Crenshaw, M.D., who was then treating the alleged assassin Lee H. Oswald at Parkland Hospital, to ask for “a deathbed confession”. Lyndon Johnson was a “hands on” guy who left nothing to chance.....
The Assassination of JFK: Who was the “Mastermind”... (show quote)
What does this have to do with anything? All those people are dead.

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Sep 27, 2019 16:51:04   #
GmanTerry
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Why would a guy, Johnson, who hated Kennedy with a passion, agree to play second fiddle?


My theory has always been that Johnson was behind the plot. That was further reinforced by the government hiding all the evidence for 75 years. That made me believe that the government knew Johnson was responsible but in order to maintain stability, they could not let us, the people know. So Johnson got away with it to protect the Union. Why else keep the evidence under wraps until everyone who was around when it happened, is dead? Why else?

Semper Fi

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Sep 27, 2019 17:43:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
GmanTerry wrote:
My theory has always been that Johnson was behind the plot. That was further reinforced by the government hiding all the evidence for 75 years. That made me believe that the government knew Johnson was responsible but in order to maintain stability, they could not let us, the people know. So Johnson got away with it to protect the Union. Why else keep the evidence under wraps until everyone who was around when it happened, is dead? Why else?

Semper Fi


Exactly!
The perps are gone.

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Sep 27, 2019 21:58:26   #
Blue Fox
 
Neither.

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Sep 28, 2019 12:28:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blue Fox wrote:
Neither.


Neither what?

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Sep 28, 2019 12:32:00   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
GmanTerry wrote:
My theory has always been that Johnson was behind the plot. That was further reinforced by the government hiding all the evidence for 75 years. That made me believe that the government knew Johnson was responsible but in order to maintain stability, they could not let us, the people know. So Johnson got away with it to protect the Union. Why else keep the evidence under wraps until everyone who was around when it happened, is dead? Why else?

Semper Fi


My take on it, is Johnson was not privy to the whole scheme/conspiracy.
Just the right man for the job.
Sooo many skeletons in his closet.
And he was not a very nice man.

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Sep 28, 2019 12:59:08   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Kennedy and Johnson were not friends. They hated each other and Johnson receded what JFK accomplished before his body was cold. Yea Johnson was in on it. I think Oswald was a patsy and the CIA were in on it. Remember the speech JFK gave about the evil he wanted us to uncover and the news to report. That's what got him killed. It's to bad too because we didn't listen and the media was bought and paid for. A mastermind?! We are talking about democrats. The two words are not compatible.


Kennedy took over Johnson's place as the next Dem nominated. Kennedy was too popular to deny him the nomination.

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Oct 18, 2019 11:14:00   #
promilitary
 
I don't know but it sure as hell wasn't a single gunman all by himself.

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Oct 18, 2019 11:22:10   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
promilitary wrote:
I don't know but it sure as hell wasn't a single gunman all by himself.


"I don't know but it sure as hell wasn't a single gunman all by himself."

That should be obvious to all.
So; who used Lee Harvey Oswald, and who had him erased?

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