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Sep 27, 2019 04:21:20   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
No, the AR15 is not an assault rifle, but the fact that "AR" are the initials for "Armalite Rifle" is not the reason why. The AR15 does not function the same as a military weapon, it is not capable of automatic fire. The designation of the AR15 as an "assault rifle" is a purely political construct based on what it looks like, it has nothing to do with the actual function of the gun.

The two rifles shown here are the most popular semi-automatic rifles in the world. One is the AR15, the other is the AK47.
No, the AR15 is not an assault rifle, but the fact... (show quote)


So which of these is a M16 and which one is the AR15. How would you know which one was restricted and which one was the most popular semi-automatic rifle?







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Sep 27, 2019 04:42:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
So which of these is a M16 and which one is the AR15. How would you know which one was restricted and which one was the most popular semi-automatic rifle?
By looking at the selector switch, opening the bolt and looking at the BCG and the hammer and trigger group.

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Sep 27, 2019 04:52:25   #
Iliamna1
 
.For home alarm and/or defense, your arsenal of home protection should include a large, loud protective dog. It doesn't require a permit and bites are unlimited. Our weapon of choice is an Aussie, but many yappie smaller breeds could be considered handguns.

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Sep 27, 2019 04:57:16   #
badbob85037
 
proud republican wrote:
Sorry,who is Sarah Brady??


Sarah Brady is the wife of James Brady who was shot in the Reagan assassination attempt. Not only does she make a nice chunk of change from fear, she also gets $5,000 when she shows up with her machine gun toting bodyguards to sling her lies. A few years ago the group put out a statement 'Children gun deaths are skyrocketing'. I knew this was a lie and started checking. They took the age one becomes an adult, 18 and made the age 26. Now most all your gang and drug related killings would still be counted as children. That isn't only a lie, it's a crime.

After the Fort Hood terrorist attack they put out another statement. ' If mass killings can happen on a military base the statement 'more guns less crime' is a lie'. When Bill Clinton private security team found it was too much trouble making sure all bolts were removed from rifles and slides were removed from hand guns on bases Bill would visit Bill just made all military bases inside the US gun free zones. If anyone is to blame for the Fort Hood carnage it's the one pulling the trigger and Bill. Not the NRA.

I have found the gun debate has nothing to do with facts. When young at 13 the NRA was allowed to give a safety classes in my Bay Area, California Schools. After passing the course I was given my first .22 along with all my friends. We would strap our .22's on the handle bars of our bikes almost every weekend and go shooting or rabbit hunting. In all that time never did we have an accident or a close call. It was also a big plus a few years latter entering the military.

Now the only training a child can get about something this nation has 400 million of is on TV of some gang banger holding a handgun sideways killing everything but what he is shooting at. But again it's the NRA's fault.. I don't know much but I know every line these gun grabbers and tyrant politician use and it is all lies and bull shit. High murder rates, bull shit. The high murder rates are from democrat ran cities with high poverty, no jobs, and so many gun laws making the honest citizen victims. America's murder rate is 4.5 per 100,000. Look at the list I sent. It tells the whole story and the Gun Free Zone is sure as Hell ain't the solution. The only gun debates I have ever seen is idiots on both sides preaching on something either have a clue about.

Anyone telling you they want to save you by taking the tools you would use to save yourself is a fool or a liar and God knows we have plenty of both.





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Sep 27, 2019 04:59:42   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Sarah Brady is the wife of James Brady who was shot in the Reagan assassination attempt. Not only does she make a nice chunk of change from fear, she also gets $5,000 when she shows up with her machine gun toting bodyguards to sling her lies. A few years ago the group put out a statement 'Children gun deaths are skyrocketing'. I knew this was a lie and started checking. They took the age one becomes an adult, 18 and made the age 26. Now most all your gang and drug related killings would still be counted as children. That isn't only a lie, it's a crime.

After the Fort Hood terrorist attack they put out another statement. ' If mass killings can happen on a military base the statement 'more guns less crime' is a lie'. When Bill Clinton private security team found it was too much trouble making sure all bolts were removed from rifles and slides were removed from hand guns on bases Bill would visit Bill just made all military bases inside the US gun free zones. If anyone is to blame for the Fort Hood carnage it's the one pulling the trigger and Bill. Not the NRA.

I have found the gun debate has nothing to do with facts. When young at 13 the NRA was allowed to give a safety classes in my Bay Area, California Schools. After passing the course I was given my first .22 along with all my friends. We would strap our .22's on the handle bars of our bikes almost every weekend and go shooting or rabbit hunting. In all that time never did we have an accident or a close call. It was also a big plus a few years latter entering the military.

Now the only training a child can get about something this nation has 400 million of is on TV of some gang banger holding a handgun sideways killing everything but what he is shooting at. But again it's the NRA's fault.. I don't know much but I know every line these gun grabbers and tyrant politician use and it is all lies and bull shit. High murder rates, bull shit. The high murder rates are from democrat ran cities with high poverty, no jobs, and so many gun laws making the honest citizen victims. America's murder rate is 4.5 per 100,000. Look at the list I sent. It tells the whole story and the Gun Free Zone is sure as Hell ain't the solution. The only gun debates I have ever seen is idiots on both sides preaching on something either have a clue about.

Anyone telling you they want to save you by taking the tools you would use to save yourself is a fool or a liar and God knows we have plenty of both.
Sarah Brady is the wife of James Brady who was sho... (show quote)


Thank you!!!

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Sep 27, 2019 07:59:55   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
PeterS wrote:
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while you cons and other criminals would hang on to your AR's the majority of the country would turn their guns in and eventually, over time, economic scarcity will make them so expensive that only the wealthy, including criminals, will be able to afford them.

And if there are people bent on killing me then why haven't they done so? I don't hide and I have always been very open about my behavior? If someone with an automatic weapon want's to kill me why haven't they done so? And here is something else--my business has been robbed twice (attempted) and my house robbed once (again attempted) and in all three cases the culprits left causing only minor damage. Why, because I have loud and obnoxious alarms. For some odd reason burglars, even armed ones, don't like to rob places when there is a lot of noise alerting others that some bad guys are doing something very illegal.

And I know there is the argument about people out in the country needing to protect themselves but my mother-in-law lives way, way, out in the country and her alarm scared away a group of kids trying to break into her place and before she could get up, get her gun (a .22 pump), and shoot any they had scattered to the wind.

Now the point being is that yes, there are crooks and bad people out there--many who will have semi-autos no matter what we do--but most won't and by using common defense methods, including legal guns, you can live safely and if in fear it would be only at your choosing.

The argument you cons are making is that you can only defend yourselves if you have the most lethal weapons possible. That's nonsense and if you are trained to use a revolver or rifle or shotgun you can be just as lethal if you have a semiautomatic weapon.
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while ... (show quote)


Cool! My Colt AR is going to skyrocket in value!

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Sep 27, 2019 09:47:38   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
They already have, bought 3 in 1994 for $600 each (on sale) and sold two them for $1100 each so I made money.



amadjuster wrote:
Cool! My Colt AR is going to skyrocket in value!

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Sep 27, 2019 10:13:31   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
PeterS wrote:
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while you cons and other criminals would hang on to your AR's the majority of the country would turn their guns in and eventually, over time, economic scarcity will make them so expensive that only the wealthy, including criminals, will be able to afford them.

And if there are people bent on killing me then why haven't they done so? I don't hide and I have always been very open about my behavior? If someone with an automatic weapon want's to kill me why haven't they done so? And here is something else--my business has been robbed twice (attempted) and my house robbed once (again attempted) and in all three cases the culprits left causing only minor damage. Why, because I have loud and obnoxious alarms. For some odd reason burglars, even armed ones, don't like to rob places when there is a lot of noise alerting others that some bad guys are doing something very illegal.

And I know there is the argument about people out in the country needing to protect themselves but my mother-in-law lives way, way, out in the country and her alarm scared away a group of kids trying to break into her place and before she could get up, get her gun (a .22 pump), and shoot any they had scattered to the wind.

Now the point being is that yes, there are crooks and bad people out there--many who will have semi-autos no matter what we do--but most won't and by using common defense methods, including legal guns, you can live safely and if in fear it would be only at your choosing.

The argument you cons are making is that you can only defend yourselves if you have the most lethal weapons possible. That's nonsense and if you are trained to use a revolver or rifle or shotgun you can be just as lethal if you have a semiautomatic weapon.
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while ... (show quote)


As usual, you know a great many things that just ain't so. How about your training? What sort have you had that makes you competent to offer an opinion on the subject? I would guess zero.

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Sep 27, 2019 14:24:08   #
bikerlee
 
OK, enough about gun control!! The framers of the Constitution wrote in the 2nd amendment not only for personal protection but to ensure that the people of the United States of America would be free from oppression, not only by other governments but from our own should it become tyrannical. The founders and citizens all had military-grade weapons and even artillery of the time to ensure the freedoms and protection of the people.

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Sep 27, 2019 14:25:41   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
bikerlee wrote:
OK, enough about gun control!! The framers of the Constitution wrote in the 2nd amendment not only for personal protection but to ensure that the people of the United States of America would be free from oppression, not only by other governments but from our own should it become tyrannical. The founders and citizens all had military-grade weapons and even artillery of the time to ensure the freedoms and protection of the people.



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Sep 27, 2019 14:36:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Sarah Brady is the wife of James Brady who was shot in the Reagan assassination attempt. Not only does she make a nice chunk of change from fear, she also gets $5,000 when she shows up with her machine gun toting bodyguards to sling her lies. A few years ago the group put out a statement 'Children gun deaths are skyrocketing'. I knew this was a lie and started checking. They took the age one becomes an adult, 18 and made the age 26. Now most all your gang and drug related killings would still be counted as children. That isn't only a lie, it's a crime.

After the Fort Hood terrorist attack they put out another statement. ' If mass killings can happen on a military base the statement 'more guns less crime' is a lie'. When Bill Clinton private security team found it was too much trouble making sure all bolts were removed from rifles and slides were removed from hand guns on bases Bill would visit Bill just made all military bases inside the US gun free zones. If anyone is to blame for the Fort Hood carnage it's the one pulling the trigger and Bill. Not the NRA.

I have found the gun debate has nothing to do with facts. When young at 13 the NRA was allowed to give a safety classes in my Bay Area, California Schools. After passing the course I was given my first .22 along with all my friends. We would strap our .22's on the handle bars of our bikes almost every weekend and go shooting or rabbit hunting. In all that time never did we have an accident or a close call. It was also a big plus a few years latter entering the military.

Now the only training a child can get about something this nation has 400 million of is on TV of some gang banger holding a handgun sideways killing everything but what he is shooting at. But again it's the NRA's fault.. I don't know much but I know every line these gun grabbers and tyrant politician use and it is all lies and bull shit. High murder rates, bull shit. The high murder rates are from democrat ran cities with high poverty, no jobs, and so many gun laws making the honest citizen victims. America's murder rate is 4.5 per 100,000. Look at the list I sent. It tells the whole story and the Gun Free Zone is sure as Hell ain't the solution. The only gun debates I have ever seen is idiots on both sides preaching on something either have a clue about.

Anyone telling you they want to save you by taking the tools you would use to save yourself is a fool or a liar and God knows we have plenty of both.
Sarah Brady is the wife of James Brady who was sho... (show quote)
Sarah Brady is dead.

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Sep 28, 2019 17:12:36   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
proud republican wrote:
AR-15 is NOT Assault Rifle..Here is information about this peace of protection!!!

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/07/what-does-ar-in-ar15-rifle-mean/#axzz60hfcdCuT


lol I saw a cartoon on fascist book about it. A lady was complaining it was sooooooooooo heavy. And that the bullets were 50 calibers. A 12-year-old girl corrected her that they were .22lrs .50 is almost a cannon. Real assault rifles have been banned for countless years. I was never a fan of pull the trigger once and the magazine empties. I like bolt action accuracy, where one bullet gets the job done. I'm not saying others shouldn't use an assault rifle if it is their choosing.

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Sep 28, 2019 17:51:38   #
gaconservative74
 
PeterS wrote:
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while you cons and other criminals would hang on to your AR's the majority of the country would turn their guns in and eventually, over time, economic scarcity will make them so expensive that only the wealthy, including criminals, will be able to afford them.

And if there are people bent on killing me then why haven't they done so? I don't hide and I have always been very open about my behavior? If someone with an automatic weapon want's to kill me why haven't they done so? And here is something else--my business has been robbed twice (attempted) and my house robbed once (again attempted) and in all three cases the culprits left causing only minor damage. Why, because I have loud and obnoxious alarms. For some odd reason burglars, even armed ones, don't like to rob places when there is a lot of noise alerting others that some bad guys are doing something very illegal.

And I know there is the argument about people out in the country needing to protect themselves but my mother-in-law lives way, way, out in the country and her alarm scared away a group of kids trying to break into her place and before she could get up, get her gun (a .22 pump), and shoot any they had scattered to the wind.

Now the point being is that yes, there are crooks and bad people out there--many who will have semi-autos no matter what we do--but most won't and by using common defense methods, including legal guns, you can live safely and if in fear it would be only at your choosing.

The argument you cons are making is that you can only defend yourselves if you have the most lethal weapons possible. That's nonsense and if you are trained to use a revolver or rifle or shotgun you can be just as lethal if you have a semiautomatic weapon.
No, but Chicago isn't the whole country and while ... (show quote)


Well if I can be just as lethal with a revolver or shotgun or revolver as with a semi-auto then you have to explain why we don’t need to ban all guns or drop the argument that we need to ban semi-autos.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:29:09   #
promilitary
 
proud republican wrote:
AR-15 is NOT Assault Rifle..Here is information about this peace of protection!!!

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/07/what-does-ar-in-ar15-rifle-mean/#axzz60hfcdCuT



There is no such thing as a manufactured assault weapon......it is the assaulter who
makes it so, and that can be a kitchen knife or a ball bat.

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