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Sep 26, 2019 05:59:06   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Seth wrote:
I read this twice, and I must confess that while I'm pretty adept at understanding something I read the first time I read it, on this occasion, the second time I read it I only became twice as confused as I did the first time through.

In short, what the f**k hell heck are you talking about?


I admit I was making the whole thing up, it was very hot where I was working and a bit dusty, so I took a break in a cool spot and started having reflections, or it might have been flash-backs I'm not sure which, I started to think about Gone With the Wind and there was Scarlet begging me to stay, but I knew, and I said to myself, this can't be right, since I'm not going anywhere anyhow.

So I created a distraction to free myself from her, and posted what I remembered about making sense.

Hope that explains it.

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Sep 26, 2019 07:17:59   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Sorry to tell you that you've misunderstood the whole purpose of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Yours had a very wrong interpretation about president Bush in 1992, entering into the Iraq war, your allegations of helping people who don't have the qualification of obtaining loans. That was Mr. Obama's demand in 1996 demanding banks to provide loans to low income people. Unfortunately substantial parts of those loans were sold to Fannie and Freddie Mac subsidies under the system of Sub- Prime lending.

Here are the reasons why Fannie and Freddie were created.
FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were created by Congress in 1938. They perform an important role in the nation’s housing finance system:
1. To provide liquidity, stability and affordability to the mortgage market. They provide liquidity (ready access to funds on reasonable terms) to the thousands of banks, savings and loans, and mortgage companies that make loans to finance housing.
2. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy mortgages from lenders and either hold these mortgages in their portfolios or package the loans into mortgage-backed securities (MBS) that may be sold.
3. Lenders use the cash raised by selling mortgages to the Enterprises to engage in further lending.
4. The Enterprises’ purchases help ensure that individuals and families that buy homes and investors that purchase apartment buildings and other multifamily dwellings have a continuous, stable supply of mortgage money.

5. By packaging mortgages into( MBS), and guaranteeing the timely payment of principal and interest on the underlying mortgages.
6. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac attract to the secondary mortgage market investors who might not otherwise invest in mortgages, thereby expanding the pool of funds available for housing.
7. That makes the secondary mortgage market more liquid and helps lower the interest rates paid by homeowners and other mortgage borrowers.

8.Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac also can help stabilize mortgage markets and protect housing during extraordinary periods when stress or turmoil in the broader financial system threaten the economy. The Enterprises’ support for mortgage lending that finances affordable housing reduces the cost of such borrowing.

9. Fannie Mae was first chartered by the U.S. government in 1938 to help ensure a reliable and affordable supply of mortgage funds throughout the country. Today it is a shareholder-owned company that operates under a congressional charter.


Note: Part of the Stimulus funds provided in 2009 was bailing out Fannie and Freddie
Here's what happened during the 2008 SupPrime crisis. Banks sold the loans to Fannie and Freddie, and therefore substantial loans were carried under the two charters. But when the SubPrime failed, substantial losses were incurred by both charters. According to an independent economic group, the Shadow Open Market Committee (SOMC), keeping the two agencies afloat cost taxpayers US$187 billion over time as the Treasury paid $116 billion for Fannie and $71 billion for Freddie.
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*Quote, - yours had a very wrong interpretation of President Bush entering the Iraq war in 1992.]

Saddam Hussein attacked Iran because he believe it was an opportune moment, HW Bush attacked Saddam Hussein because Saudi Arabia used it's influence to demand Saddam be squeezed financially because he lost the war but emerged with a far stronger Arab force than all the other Arab States put together.

Even if Saddam won he would still have annihilated, I have the book right in front of me "Saddam Hussein- The Politics of Revenge" by an expert , ' Said K. Aburish '.

When that provocation didn't work Kuwait invented slant drilling now used in Fracking to really get up Saddam's nose, this led to the US bailing Kuwait out, but Saddam was still probably even stronger so the stage was set for the invasion proper of Iraq in 2003.

Saudi Arabia paid for slant drilling to be invented to start a war and now slant drilling is putting Saudi Arabia out of business, how do you like that ?.

Quote, - that was Obama's demand in 1996. ]

I don't disagree with any of that, except the part where banks sold the loans to Freddie May and Mac, but I can see how that could happen and then from the two government subsidiaries May and Mac the mortgage contracts were sold overseas as Mortgage Backed Securities, which is why the Treasury Department was liable, I think that's where the QE 1 figure of $100 billion for agency default and $500 billion for mortgage backed Securities came from, followed in 2009 by $850 billion for mortgage backed securities and $300 billion to cover treasuries, then in 2010 $600 billion injected, which was all known as QE 1.

QE 2 began mid. 2011 with $400 billion to prop up treasuries.

QE3 began 2012 with $40 billion monthly rising to $85 billion used mainly for long term bond purchases tapered in 2013 to $10 billion and ended Octiber 2014.

That wasn't the money used to bail out Commercial banks JP Morgan, America Express, Golden Sachs, Capital One, State Street, BB&T, Wells Fargo and Bank of America.

Freddie May and Mac and General Motors got $214 billion between them.

As far as I know most of that money has been paid back and the Fed has been shrinking it's Balance Sheet that's one of the reasons Powell gives for the recent injections of cash into the Banks.

However although the money is paid back the quantity of $ in the system can't be reduced, so where does all this money go? answer, - hoarding, off shore accounts, Bitcom all I know is I haven't got any.

I am studying up on Freddie Mae and Mac. The Banking short falls are getting incredibly deeper Term Repo market is getting $ 60 billion a day injected up from $30 billion and Overnight Repo is getting $100 billion injected daily up from $75 billion.

About Obama, I remember he was making US Aid conditional upon African Nations implementing gay rights legalisation, that is worse than what Trump is accused of doing in my opinion.

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Sep 26, 2019 08:09:56   #
Radiance3
 
RT friend wrote:
*Quote, - yours had a very wrong interpretation of President Bush entering the Iraq war in 1992.]

Saddam Hussein attacked Iran because he believe it was an opportune moment, HW Bush attacked Saddam Hussein because Saudi Arabia used it's influence to demand Saddam be squeezed financially because he lost the war but emerged with a far stronger Arab force than all the other Arab States put together.

Even if Saddam won he would still have annihilated, I have the book right in front of me "Saddam Hussein- The Politics of Revenge" by an expert , ' Said K. Aburish '.

When that provocation didn't work Kuwait invented slant drilling now used in Fracking to really get up Saddam's nose, this led to the US bailing Kuwait out, but Saddam was still probably even stronger so the stage was set for the invasion proper of Iraq in 2003.

Saudi Arabia paid for slant drilling to be invented to start a war and now slant drilling is putting Saudi Arabia out of business, how do you like that ?.

Quote, - that was Obama's demand in 1996. ]

I don't disagree with any of that, except the part where banks sold the loans to Freddie May and Mac, but I can see how that could happen and then from the two government subsidiaries May and Mac the mortgage contracts were sold overseas as Mortgage Backed Securities, which is why the Treasury Department was liable, I think that's where the QE 1 figure of $100 billion for agency default and $500 billion for mortgage backed Securities came from, followed in 2009 by $850 billion for mortgage backed securities and $300 billion to cover treasuries, then in 2010 $600 billion injected, which was all known as QE 1.

QE 2 began mid. 2011 with $400 billion to prop up treasuries.

QE3 began 2012 with $40 billion monthly rising to $85 billion used mainly for long term bond purchases tapered in 2013 to $10 billion and ended Octiber 2014.

That wasn't the money used to bail out Commercial banks JP Morgan, America Express, Golden Sachs, Capital One, State Street, BB&T, Wells Fargo and Bank of America.

Freddie May and Mac and General Motors got $214 billion between them.

As far as I know most of that money has been paid back and the Fed has been shrinking it's Balance Sheet that's one of the reasons Powell gives for the recent injections of cash into the Banks.

However although the money is paid back the quantity of $ in the system can't be reduced, so where does all this money go? answer, - hoarding, off shore accounts, Bitcom all I know is I haven't got any.

I am studying up on Freddie Mae and Mac. The Banking short falls are getting incredibly deeper Term Repo market is getting $ 60 billion a day injected up from $30 billion and Overnight Repo is getting $100 billion injected daily up from $75 billion.

About Obama, I remember he was making US Aid conditional upon African Nations implementing gay rights legalisation, that is worse than what Trump is accused of doing in my opinion.
*Quote, - yours had a very wrong interpretation of... (show quote)

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You are not worth of my time. All your information do not prove the facts that happened. Your book resource is not even reliable. Every one could write a book. That does not mean it is part of history, the source of facts. You are talking non-sense.

Don't change the history of this country. You don't know what you are talking about. Here are the purposes of the Iraq war.

The U.S. Iraq war's intent was to remove "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world."[1] For the invasion of Iraq the rationale was "the United States relied on the authority of UN Security Council Resolutions 678 and 687 to use all necessary means to compel Iraq to comply with its international obligations".

In addition, Sadam Hussien, in cahoots with a UN official with Saddam who stole $1.7 billion the UN emergency funds "oil for food program" supposed to be for the suffering Iraqi's. Fact was the UN official in cahoots with the crime was terminated from the UN. Sadam's 2 sons have been feeding the Christians to the team of Lions on their cage that they have.


Your information about the 1996 Sub-Prime lending were all non-sense unreliable. Those were not facts. I have already detailed all the facts that happened and results earlier on my post about the Sup-Prime lending. Read all those highlights in blue on my earlier posts. Those were facts.

Then you create your own statistics, and figures that were made up non-sense. You are wasting my time, but I won't allow you mislead the people and make fool of yourself. Why don't you discuss about your own financial issues in Australia?

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Sep 26, 2019 08:15:40   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
I admit I was making the whole thing up, it was very hot where I was working and a bit dusty, so I took a break in a cool spot and started having reflections, or it might have been flash-backs I'm not sure which, I started to think about Gone With the Wind and there was Scarlet begging me to stay, but I knew, and I said to myself, this can't be right, since I'm not going anywhere anyhow.

So I created a distraction to free myself from her, and posted what I remembered about making sense.

Hope that explains it.
I admit I was making the whole thing up, it was ve... (show quote)



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Sep 26, 2019 13:12:29   #
JediKnight
 
proud republican wrote:
Neither Trump nor his family will go to jail...However Trump WILL stay in the White House for the second term!!!


I wouldn't be too sure of that Sparky! Its not looking too good for the fake president.


Ukraine whistleblower complaint: 6 key takeaways - Vox


https://www.vox.com › policy-and-politics › whistleblower-complaint-ukra...



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Sep 26, 2019 13:18:40   #
JediKnight
 
RT; you will soon discover that if you disagree with Rose, even in the slightest, she will list you as "not worth her time." Apparently, only those who agree with her and have their heads up Trump's rump are worth conversing with. sad. sad indeed.

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Sep 26, 2019 14:49:31   #
Radiance3
 
JediKnight wrote:
I wouldn't be too sure of that Sparky! Its not looking too good for the fake president.


Ukraine whistleblower complaint: 6 key takeaways - Vox


https://www.vox.com › policy-and-politics › whistleblower-complaint-ukra...


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Corrupt, extorter, shameless, parasites, THIEVES, RADICAL SOCIALIST DEMS.

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Sep 26, 2019 15:00:28   #
JediKnight
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Corrupt, extorter, shameless, parasites, THIEVES, RADICAL SOCIALIST DEMS.


Then please explain why it is Trump and republicans who have been under CONSTANT investigations since he stole the election? Don't you remember Trump saying "If you elect Hillary you will have constant scandals and corruption everyday?" (<that's called "projection" -and yes, it sucks!)

BTW - remember all those emails Trump begged Putin to find? If they were so top secret and what she did so very bad -why are those emails now a museum exhibit open to the public? You guys have been duped and are just too naïve to realize and see what's happening right in front of your faces. sad.



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Sep 26, 2019 15:25:25   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You are not worth of my time. All your information do not prove the facts that happened. Your book resource is not even reliable. Every one could write a book. That does not mean it is part of history, the source of facts. You are talking non-sense.

Don't change the history of this country. You don't know what you are talking about. Here are the purposes of the Iraq war.

The U.S. Iraq war's intent was to remove "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world."[1] For the invasion of Iraq the rationale was "the United States relied on the authority of UN Security Council Resolutions 678 and 687 to use all necessary means to compel Iraq to comply with its international obligations".

In addition, Sadam Hussien, in cahoots with a UN official with Saddam who stole $1.7 billion the UN emergency funds "oil for food program" supposed to be for the suffering Iraqi's. Fact was the UN official in cahoots with the crime was terminated from the UN. Sadam's 2 sons have been feeding the Christians to the team of Lions on their cage that they have.


Your information about the 1996 Sub-Prime lending were all non-sense unreliable. Those were not facts. I have already detailed all the facts that happened and results earlier on my post about the Sup-Prime lending. Read all those highlights in blue on my earlier posts. Those were facts.

Then you create your own statistics, and figures that were made up non-sense. You are wasting my time, but I won't allow you mislead the people and make fool of yourself. Why don't you discuss about your own financial issues in Australia?
===================== br i You are not worth of ... (show quote)


I suppose you agreed with George Bush Sr. when he called Trump a blowhard and said the alt-right white supremacists had taken over the Republican Party and he didn't vote for Trump either, that was reported by the BBC on the 4th. November 2017. Well I don't.

Said K. Aburish tell us that Saddam was a bad chap and his sons were terrible, now I'm not saying otherwise but he didn't have any weapons of mass destruction otherwise he surely would have blown everything sky high.

Secretly Saddam Hussein must have been taking orders directly from Allied Command Headquarters otherwise how could he Order his Soldiers to dig in out in the desert when there was a perfectly good City that was already taken to fight from ?, realistically what was he promised in return, that never surfaced along with his Soldiers.

August 2 1990 Saddam attacked Kuwait and began 8 months of unbelievable military blunders that must have been either deliberate or Divine Intervention.

I've seen videos and it was widely reported Saddam's army was entrenched in the desert and when attacked the trenches were just filled in with an angled bladed bulldozers driving down the line, Saddam's Men were just buried alive in their trenches, some jumped out and surrendered, most didn't.

Also on top of them gruesome developments, - before die sigh end of the rope 30th. December 2006, - in mid-February 1991 H W Bush gave a speech at the Raytheon Patriot missile plant calling for the Iraqi people to arise, they did, and they too died, maybe there was a stupid sickness indemic in Iraq at the time but they seemed to have overcome it now since Iraq is still in one piece.

In spite of the lies.

HW Bush told the US public Kuwait was invaded "without provocation or warning" what he omitted to mention was that the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had given Saddam an effective green light, telling Saddam on July 1990, a week before his invasion, "We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait". (Wikileaks, April Glaspie, and Saddam Hussein) .

The stupid sickness was really bad because Saddam believed him, personally I believe it was Rapturous Design aka emotional overload.

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Sep 26, 2019 15:59:33   #
Radiance3
 
RT friend wrote:
I suppose you agreed with George Bush Sr. when he called Trump a blowhard and said the alt-right white supremacists had taken over the Republican Party and he didn't vote for Trump either, that was reported by the BBC on the 4th. November 2017. Well I don't.

Said K. Aburish tell us that Saddam was a bad chap and his sons were terrible, now I'm not saying otherwise but he didn't have any weapons of mass destruction otherwise he surely would have blown everything sky high.

Secretly Saddam Hussein must have been taking orders directly from Allied Command Headquarters otherwise how could he Order his Soldiers to dig in out in the desert when there was a perfectly good City that was already taken to fight from ?, realistically what was he promised in return, that never surfaced along with his Soldiers.

August 2 1990 Saddam attacked Kuwait and began 8 months of unbelievable military blunders that must have been either deliberate or Divine Intervention.

I've seen videos and it was widely reported Saddam's army was entrenched in the desert and when attacked the trenches were just filled in with an angled bladed bulldozers driving down the line, Saddam's Men were just buried alive in their trenches, some jumped out and surrendered, most didn't.

Also on top of them gruesome developments, - before die sigh end of the rope 30th. December 2006, - in mid-February 1991 H W Bush gave a speech at the Raytheon Patriot missile plant calling for the Iraqi people to arise, they did, and they too died, maybe there was a stupid sickness indemic in Iraq at the time but they seemed to have overcome it now since Iraq is still in one piece.

In spite of the lies.

HW Bush told the US public Kuwait was invaded "without provocation or warning" what he omitted to mention was that the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had given Saddam an effective green light, telling Saddam on July 1990, a week before his invasion, "We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait". (Wikileaks, April Glaspie, and Saddam Hussein) .

The stupid sickness was really bad because Saddam believed him, personally I believe it was Rapturous Design aka emotional overload.
I suppose you agreed with George Bush Sr. when he ... (show quote)

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Fact is I don't take any word of yours at face value. Your only source of info. was Aburish a Palestinian journalist. I won't take any word of this Muslim. Not reliable and not credible but Lies. Muslims are required to lie and to deceive their enemies. That is an order from their god. No wonder every statement you've written, not one of them was credible. Your faith and sympathy is with Muslims. No wonder you have been defending Barack Obama. I would suggest don't talk to me anymore. I don't take any Muslim belief. So, please get lost. Okay? All your statements are made up lies. Your only source of information is that Palestinian Muslim LIAR Said Aburish.

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Sep 26, 2019 16:52:36   #
JediKnight
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Fact is I don't take any word of yours at face value. Your only source of info. was Aburish a Palestinian journalist. I won't take any word of this Muslim. Not reliable and not credible but Lies. Muslims are required to lie and to deceive their enemies. That is an order from their god. No wonder every statement you've written, not one of them was credible. Your faith and sympathy is with Muslims. No wonder you have been defending Barack Obama. I would suggest don't talk to me anymore. I don't take any Muslim belief. So, please get lost. Okay? All your statements are made up lies. Your only source of information is that Palestinian Muslim LIAR Said Aburish.
================== br I U Fact is I don't take a... (show quote)


Do you know what "brainwashed" means? You display those symptoms in your posts when you flagrantly deny any news that is negative about your republican heroes. When you limit yourself to "just" right wing sources don't you understand that your viewpoint is skewed towards what those sources want you to believe?

Intelligence dictates that in today's times of propaganda, dog whistles, and projection that you seek more than one source, preferably multiple viewpoints from multiple sources.
You come off as a delusional, head-in-the-sand, ultra-right conservative with your 'believe only Trump' perspective. It is truly sad, and makes one wonder about your mental and medical condition.

Here's something you should consider -but I'm already convinced you will just blow it off and pretend that its a lie because your fake president says so.



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Sep 26, 2019 17:28:04   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
I suppose you agreed with George Bush Sr. when he called Trump a blowhard and said the alt-right white supremacists had taken over the Republican Party and he didn't vote for Trump either, that was reported by the BBC on the 4th. November 2017. Well I don't.

Said K. Aburish tell us that Saddam was a bad chap and his sons were terrible, now I'm not saying otherwise but he didn't have any weapons of mass destruction otherwise he surely would have blown everything sky high.

Secretly Saddam Hussein must have been taking orders directly from Allied Command Headquarters otherwise how could he Order his Soldiers to dig in out in the desert when there was a perfectly good City that was already taken to fight from ?, realistically what was he promised in return, that never surfaced along with his Soldiers.

August 2 1990 Saddam attacked Kuwait and began 8 months of unbelievable military blunders that must have been either deliberate or Divine Intervention.

I've seen videos and it was widely reported Saddam's army was entrenched in the desert and when attacked the trenches were just filled in with an angled bladed bulldozers driving down the line, Saddam's Men were just buried alive in their trenches, some jumped out and surrendered, most didn't.

Also on top of them gruesome developments, - before die sigh end of the rope 30th. December 2006, - in mid-February 1991 H W Bush gave a speech at the Raytheon Patriot missile plant calling for the Iraqi people to arise, they did, and they too died, maybe there was a stupid sickness indemic in Iraq at the time but they seemed to have overcome it now since Iraq is still in one piece.

In spite of the lies.

HW Bush told the US public Kuwait was invaded "without provocation or warning" what he omitted to mention was that the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had given Saddam an effective green light, telling Saddam on July 1990, a week before his invasion, "We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait". (Wikileaks, April Glaspie, and Saddam Hussein) .

The stupid sickness was really bad because Saddam believed him, personally I believe it was Rapturous Design aka emotional overload.
I suppose you agreed with George Bush Sr. when he ... (show quote)


The Bush clan are globalists.

As far back as Bush senior's time as V.P., then President Reagan warned him to cut his ties to the Trilateral Commission.

George W, in coordination with then Mexican President Vicente Fox and then Canadian P.M. Jean Chretien, attempted to stealthily forge a North American Union via the deceptively named SPP (Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America).

In 2007, George W attempted to push through a large blanket amnesty for illegal aliens -- it was foiled by a massive voter backlash.

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Sep 26, 2019 17:36:21   #
Radiance3
 
JediKnight wrote:
Do you know what "brainwashed" means? You display those symptoms in your posts when you flagrantly deny any news that is negative about your republican heroes. When you limit yourself to "just" right wing sources don't you understand that your viewpoint is skewed towards what those sources want you to believe?

Intelligence dictates that in today's times of propaganda, dog whistles, and projection that you seek more than one source, preferably multiple viewpoints from multiple sources.
You come off as a delusional, head-in-the-sand, ultra-right conservative with your 'believe only Trump' perspective. It is truly sad, and makes one wonder about your mental and medical condition.

Here's something you should consider -but I'm already convinced you will just blow it off and pretend that its a lie because your fake president says so.
Do you know what "brainwashed" means? Yo... (show quote)


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Shut off. You are not worth my time. You don't know what you are talking LIAR, CROOK!!

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Sep 26, 2019 17:38:37   #
JediKnight
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Shut off. You are not worth my time, LIAR!


You will never learn that your petty insults are meaningless. You're so deep in denial that you can't even see straight. Whatever will you do when Trump is out of office? You do know that suicide is a sin right? I keep praying for you to awaken and see the light, but I'm beginning to think that there is no hope for you. sad. sad indeed.

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Sep 26, 2019 17:40:12   #
Radiance3
 
You are NOT WORTH a minute of my time, Jihad!!

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