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Sep 25, 2019 18:22:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Seth wrote:
https://nypost.com/2019/09/24/goodwin-pelosis-impeachment-flip-flop-changes-everything/


For months, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned itchy Democrats against the perils of impeachment. She should have stuck to her guns.

In surrendering to the radicals and the noisy drumbeat of their media handmaidens, Pelosi established a formal investigative process involving the top legislative committees.

Yet she did something else, too, something far more monumental: She effectively committed House Dems to impeaching President Trump.

Because of what she said and did, if the House doesn’t go all the way, it will be a political disaster. Either failing to take a vote on articles of impeachment, or failing to get enough votes among her majority to pass any articles, would be seen as a political exoneration for Trump, likely leading to his re-election.

If all that weren’t risky enough, consider another scenario. If House Dems do impeach Trump on grounds that much of the public sees as flimsy and concocted, they could win the battle and lose the war. Indeed, no matter what the House does, there is a next-to-zero chance the GOP controlled Senate would convict the president absent clear and convincing “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Pelosi knew all that since January, when she became Speaker, which is why she kept resisting the impeachers. But her surrender proved again that her party can’t quit 2016. Like generals fighting the last war, she and they are now committed to taking their sore-loser grievances to 2020 voters.

Dems apparently assume the country hates Trump as much as they do. President Hillary Clinton had no comment on the strategy.

They also are demonstrating they didn’t learn the lessons of the Robert Mueller probe. They assumed for two years the special counsel would get the goods that would drive Trump from office. We know how that worked out, yet here they go again.

Although Pelosi stopped short of creating a select panel and reportedly has no plans to call for a formal House vote, the Speaker’s claims that Trump “seriously violated the Constitution” and “betrayed the oath of office” in a conversation with Ukraine’s president leave her no wiggle room. If she believes those charges, how can she not advocate for the president’s removal?

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Pelosi launches 'official impeachment inquiry' into Trump
And if she advocates for it, she must deliver it, or she can no longer be the leader.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:28:15   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Cool. Sorry I can't find the post that included the part about quid pro quo of gun control legislation assistance in return for making the impeachment go away. It may have been taken down as innaccurate? Later when I get back to the big computer, I can check the search history for it. I'm away and on my phone presently.

Such an event would certainly explain the appearance of something lighting a fire under Nancy!

Did you notice that between the meeting with her caucus and her public announcement on the (finally flag adorned stage), she seems to have had a dramatic makeup makeover!? Or perhaps she was market testing a Halloween mask from the Frozen Princesses series.

Sorry, Dems. I am an equal opportunity operator, when it comes to snark.
Cool. Sorry I can't find the post that included th... (show quote)


I did notice that. Botox?

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Sep 25, 2019 18:28:45   #
debeda
 
Ricki wrote:
I think the democrats have shit and fallen back in it.



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Sep 25, 2019 18:29:31   #
debeda
 
Peewee wrote:
Haha! Also, love your new meme!

Keep forgetting to tell you.


Thanks Peewee. I'm the one in the green shirt

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Sep 25, 2019 18:30:37   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Singularity wrote:
Cool. Sorry I can't find the post that included the part about quid pro quo of gun control legislation assistance in return for making the impeachment go away. It may have been taken down as innaccurate? Later when I get back to the big computer, I can check the search history for it. I'm away and on my phone presently.

Such an event would certainly explain the appearance of something lighting a fire under Nancy!

Did you notice that between the meeting with her caucus and her public announcement on the (finally flag adorned stage), she seems to have had a dramatic makeup makeover!? Or perhaps she was market testing a Halloween mask from the Frozen Princesses series.

Sorry, Dems. I am an equal opportunity operator, when it comes to snark.
Cool. Sorry I can't find the post that included th... (show quote)


Ha Ha! You always have been very balanced in "snark!"

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Sep 25, 2019 18:31:43   #
Seth
 
eagleye13 wrote:
For months, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned itchy Democrats against the perils of impeachment. She should have stuck to her guns.

In surrendering to the radicals and the noisy drumbeat of their media handmaidens, Pelosi established a formal investigative process involving the top legislative committees.

Yet she did something else, too, something far more monumental: She effectively committed House Dems to impeaching President Trump.

Because of what she said and did, if the House doesn’t go all the way, it will be a political disaster. Either failing to take a vote on articles of impeachment, or failing to get enough votes among her majority to pass any articles, would be seen as a political exoneration for Trump, likely leading to his re-election.

If all that weren’t risky enough, consider another scenario. If House Dems do impeach Trump on grounds that much of the public sees as flimsy and concocted, they could win the battle and lose the war. Indeed, no matter what the House does, there is a next-to-zero chance the GOP controlled Senate would convict the president absent clear and convincing “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Pelosi knew all that since January, when she became Speaker, which is why she kept resisting the impeachers. But her surrender proved again that her party can’t quit 2016. Like generals fighting the last war, she and they are now committed to taking their sore-loser grievances to 2020 voters.

Dems apparently assume the country hates Trump as much as they do. President Hillary Clinton had no comment on the strategy.

They also are demonstrating they didn’t learn the lessons of the Robert Mueller probe. They assumed for two years the special counsel would get the goods that would drive Trump from office. We know how that worked out, yet here they go again.

Although Pelosi stopped short of creating a select panel and reportedly has no plans to call for a formal House vote, the Speaker’s claims that Trump “seriously violated the Constitution” and “betrayed the oath of office” in a conversation with Ukraine’s president leave her no wiggle room. If she believes those charges, how can she not advocate for the president’s removal?

SEE ALSO

Pelosi launches 'official impeachment inquiry' into Trump
And if she advocates for it, she must deliver it, or she can no longer be the leader.
For months, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned itch... (show quote)


The Dems are so out of touch with the American people that they continue to believe that stepping on ones own d**k is the best way to win elections.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:32:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
For months, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned itchy Democrats against the perils of impeachment. She should have stuck to her guns.

In surrendering to the radicals and the noisy drumbeat of their media handmaidens, Pelosi established a formal investigative process involving the top legislative committees.

Yet she did something else, too, something far more monumental: She effectively committed House Dems to impeaching President Trump.

Because of what she said and did, if the House doesn’t go all the way, it will be a political disaster. Either failing to take a vote on articles of impeachment, or failing to get enough votes among her majority to pass any articles, would be seen as a political exoneration for Trump, likely leading to his re-election.

If all that weren’t risky enough, consider another scenario. If House Dems do impeach Trump on grounds that much of the public sees as flimsy and concocted, they could win the battle and lose the war. Indeed, no matter what the House does, there is a next-to-zero chance the GOP controlled Senate would convict the president absent clear and convincing “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Pelosi knew all that since January, when she became Speaker, which is why she kept resisting the impeachers. But her surrender proved again that her party can’t quit 2016. Like generals fighting the last war, she and they are now committed to taking their sore-loser grievances to 2020 voters.

Dems apparently assume the country hates Trump as much as they do. President Hillary Clinton had no comment on the strategy.

They also are demonstrating they didn’t learn the lessons of the Robert Mueller probe. They assumed for two years the special counsel would get the goods that would drive Trump from office. We know how that worked out, yet here they go again.

Although Pelosi stopped short of creating a select panel and reportedly has no plans to call for a formal House vote, the Speaker’s claims that Trump “seriously violated the Constitution” and “betrayed the oath of office” in a conversation with Ukraine’s president leave her no wiggle room. If she believes those charges, how can she not advocate for the president’s removal?

SEE ALSO

Pelosi launches 'official impeachment inquiry' into Trump
And if she advocates for it, she must deliver it, or she can no longer be the leader.
For months, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned itch... (show quote)


She might just let it peter out a bit and never actually let the House vote on it. It would be a disaster of epic proportions for the democrats, not to mention how it would drag in and dig up some rather crappy stuff they'd like to just let lie!

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Sep 25, 2019 18:36:43   #
badbob85037
 
10chevy22 wrote:
That's funny


Russian collusion?! The only Russian collusion I saw was when $114 million showed up at the Clinton Foundation from the Russian company that bought our uranium. I think it's more like treason that collusion. And we can't forget stupid obama over an open mic telling his Russian good buddy he could sell us out more after the election which he did. That sounds a lot like treason too so I guess there was no collusion. Eric Holder was caught running guns to Mexican drug cartel behind the back of the Mexican government. Those weapons have been used in over 600 murders. He was found in Contempt of Congress yet he has never been tried for his crimes. I'll tell you I'm getting real tired of playing with two sets of rules. I want some pay back.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:37:54   #
Carol Kelly
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not fair, he admitted to doing some things he should be impeached for.

No worries, now both the senate and house intelligence gets the whistle blower report... and anything else they want.


Do you know what that “Whistleblower” did was illegal.?

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Sep 25, 2019 18:38:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Russian collusion?! The only Russian collusion I saw was when $114 million showed up at the Clinton Foundation from the Russian company that bought our uranium. I think it's more like treason that collusion. And we can't forget stupid obama over an open mic telling his Russian good buddy he could sell us out more after the election which he did. That sounds a lot like treason too so I guess there was no collusion. Eric Holder was caught running guns to Mexican drug cartel behind the back of the Mexican government. Those weapons have been used in over 600 murders. He was found in Contempt of Congress yet he has never been tried for his crimes. I'll tell you I'm getting real tired of playing with two sets of rules. I want some pay back.
Russian collusion?! The only Russian collusion I s... (show quote)


There was also the $500,000 to Bill for one speech.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:40:57   #
Carol Kelly
 
Seth wrote:
Perhaps that's why Bernie always appears to be a very angry man. He is feeling "The Burn" from 2016.

When he gets edged out by Pocahontas or whomever, his blood pressure will cause him to explode, taking out everybody in the room.

Luckily, they'll all be Democratic Socialists and MSM hacks, so America won't suffer any real losses...


Well, I’m hoping for that explosion.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:41:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Do you know what that “Whistleblower” did was illegal.?


More of a whistle leaker!

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Sep 25, 2019 18:50:34   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
Hillary alone could've given Al Capone a run for his money.


She's got more bodies than Capone had.

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Sep 25, 2019 18:54:48   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Do you know what that “Whistleblower” did was illegal.?


The whistle blower has a friend that is really close to Trump, and they feared for the Bidens and Hillary when one of them had privy to the call. This was a heads up warning to the kommiecrats and the entire Obama Clinton cabal.
If the Crowd Strike lies and cover up is revealed, lots of kommiecrats will be in jail. They should be now, but Trump needs to replace Bush Boy Barr.

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Sep 25, 2019 19:14:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The whistle blower has a friend that is really close to Trump, and they feared for the Bidens and Hillary when one of them had privy to the call. This was a heads up warning to the kommiecrats and the entire Obama Clinton cabal.
If the Crowd Strike lies and cover up is revealed, lots of kommiecrats will be in jail. They should be now, but Trump needs to replace Bush Boy Barr.


Crowd strike is the key.

CrowdStrike, for those who may not remember, was the cybersecurity firm that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) used to investigate hacks against it back in 2016. It concluded that Russia was responsible, a finding later backed up by the US intelligence communities and special counsel Robert Mueller. But Trump apparently still believes that his own intelligence agencies have it wrong.

CrowdStrike cooperated with the FBI’s investigation of the hacks but Trump has nonetheless repeatedly pushed baseless conspiracy theories suggesting that information was somehow withheld from the bureau because CrowdStrike didn’t turn over a physical server to the FBI, and was therefore involved in a cover-up that resulted in the Russia investigation. (This isn’t how the relevant technology works, but more on that later.)

....Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t the FBI take possession of it? Deep State?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 14, 2018

For a sense of how grounded in reality this “inside job” conspiracy theory about the DNC hack is, it’s worth pointing out (as Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo did) that, broadly speaking, it’s the same one that holds that DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered by a DNC-affiliated hit squad for leaking the emails to WikiLeaks.

During a bilateral media availability with Zelensky at the United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday, Trump alluded to the “Crowdstrike” conspiracy theory and said that his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, is “looking to also find out where the phony witch hunt started, how it started.”



You can see why!

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