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Sep 21, 2019 05:49:32   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
With who?

It will be more than a regional conflict if we attack Iran. I see no way it would not be.

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Sep 21, 2019 10:46:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
It will be more than a regional conflict if we attack Iran. I see no way it would not be.


Yet Iran has not been attacked...

And America is already engaged in several military actions in the region...

What do you see Trump pushing? War wise?

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Sep 21, 2019 22:09:17   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yet Iran has not been attacked...

And America is already engaged in several military actions in the region...

What do you see Trump pushing? War wise?


Right now troops have been deployed to Saudi Arabia. Trump has sanctioned Irans central bank. The threat "locked and loaded" has been made. There have been tanker siezures. It is not going to die down .

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Sep 21, 2019 23:30:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Right now troops have been deployed to Saudi Arabia. Trump has sanctioned Irans central bank. The threat "locked and loaded" has been made. There have been tanker siezures. It is not going to die down .


What would you have the government do?

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Sep 22, 2019 08:15:06   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
What would you have the government do?


Issue a statement condemning the attack but leave the military responses to Saudi Arabia.

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Sep 22, 2019 09:05:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Issue a statement condemning the attack but leave the military responses to Saudi Arabia.


Agreed

Move North and join the conservative Party... We have need of you

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Sep 22, 2019 11:04:51   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Agreed

Move North and join the conservative Party... We have need of you


Why thank you. . We should not get involved with Saudi Arabia. They have zero scruples when it comes to human rights--They have billions of dollars in US military hardware already and they can fight their own battles. We should not be defending their oil which is but 5% of the worlds supply. Oil is what this is really about.

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Sep 22, 2019 15:43:38   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
There is no defence against drones or cruise missiles and never will be because radar only points up, US can obliterate Iran but not before Iran obliterates Gulf States, my guess is after that Avigdor Liberman and his Russian Settlers would have to move back to Russia, since the Queen Kings of Saudi Arabia will be out of a job and moved to Tal Aviv- Yafo to groove in the night life.

However Putin wouldn't like Power sharing with Liberman so he likely will offer Netanyahu Russian Citizenship, all's well that ends well.

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Sep 25, 2019 11:04:26   #
JoyV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I do not condone the actions of trump and his administration when it comes to the situation we are now in. It is only because the Obama administration worked on and obtained the "peace" deal that trump and the cons wanted to scrap it to get a "better deal" This is not a joke. trump says he wants to avoid war but he is doing his best to start one on a global scale.


Where do you live that you never heard the outrage of Americans when the Iran treaty was announced. In fact it was so UNPOPULAR that it failed ratification BIPARTISANLY and overwhelmingly against the treaty!!!! That by the time Trump was elected it still hadn't been ratified or even get half the Democratic votes let alone Republican.

Only those who were Obama acolytes or were getting some personal advantage were in favor of the deal. Even if it hadn't come with a forgiveness of reparations and a tacit admission of guilt for freezing the funds which were in the account used to pay for the weapons we provided them with, which had mostly already been delivered. Refunding what was frozen at an exponential level without even requiring an accounting of what happened to the weapons already delivered. 《An example is refunding the money multiple times over for the purchase the f14s, even though they had recipients 78 of the 80 ordered. 》And the arrangements for more payments from us in the future.

No. The unpopularity of the unconstitutional treaty did not begin with Trump's cancellation of the unconstitutional treaty.

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Sep 25, 2019 16:02:55   #
Seth
 
JoyV wrote:
Where do you live that you never heard the outrage of Americans when the Iran treaty was announced. In fact it was so UNPOPULAR that it failed ratification BIPARTISANLY and overwhelmingly against the treaty!!!! That by the time Trump was elected it still hadn't been ratified or even get half the Democratic votes let alone Republican.

Only those who were Obama acolytes or were getting some personal advantage were in favor of the deal. Even if it hadn't come with a forgiveness of reparations and a tacit admission of guilt for freezing the funds which were in the account used to pay for the weapons we provided them with, which had mostly already been delivered. Refunding what was frozen at an exponential level without even requiring an accounting of what happened to the weapons already delivered. 《An example is refunding the money multiple times over for the purchase the f14s, even though they had recipients 78 of the 80 ordered. 》And the arrangements for more payments from us in the future.

No. The unpopularity of the unconstitutional treaty did not begin with Trump's cancellation of the unconstitutional treaty.
Where do you live that you never heard the outrage... (show quote)


Exactly.

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Sep 25, 2019 16:27:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Right now troops have been deployed to Saudi Arabia. Trump has sanctioned Irans central bank. The threat "locked and loaded" has been made. There have been tanker siezures. It is not going to die down .
I suggest you suspend your prejudices and preconceived notions about president Trump and the situation in the ME and watch President Trump's speech to the UN General Assembly. Watch it in its entirety, listen carefully to him. You may be shocked to learn that he is doing all he possibly can to avoid war with Iran, or anyone else for that matter. Yes, we are "locked and loaded", as we must be, however, as Sun Tsu has explained, the first principle of war ("Supreme excellence") is to break the enemy's will to fight WITHOUT FIGHTING. Listen and learn.

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Sep 26, 2019 08:32:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I suggest you suspend your prejudices and preconceived notions about president Trump and the situation in the ME and watch President Trump's speech to the UN General Assembly. Watch it in its entirety, listen carefully to him. You may be shocked to learn that he is doing all he possibly can to avoid war with Iran, or anyone else for that matter. Yes, we are "locked and loaded", as we must be, however, as Sun Tsu has explained, the first principle of war ("Supreme excellence") is to break the enemy's will to fight WITHOUT FIGHTING. Listen and learn.
I suggest you suspend your prejudices and preconce... (show quote)


I watched the carefully prepared speech and heard the talking points. We will see if the strategy works .Thanks for taking your time to post .

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