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Sep 20, 2019 10:38:33   #
hdjimv Loc: South Dakota
 
Seth wrote:
The U.N. is too busy pursuing its globalist agenda to do what its charter mandates.

This is obvious in nearly everything that corrupt institution does, from appointing oppressive dictatorships to the "Human Rights" Commission to continuing to support corrupt, terrorist friendly bureaucracies like UNRWA.

Notice how the U.N. takes more funding from, and is based in the United States yet goes against us on nearly every issue.

We ought to evict them from Turtle Bay and send 'em packing to Brussels or someplace.
The U.N. is too busy pursuing its globalist agenda... (show quote)


We won't though because as long as we house and support them, they pretty much will have to leave us to our own devices. Otherwise, they can get the hell out. We are a free republic!

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Sep 20, 2019 13:34:53   #
badbob85037
 
Kevyn wrote:
Abide by the terms of the multinational agreement that brought their nuclear weapon program to a stop and was working brilliantly. Stop selling weapons to the Saudis until they stop killing civilians in Yemen as both houses of congress demand. Two can play the “maximum pressure” game and while the US can win in the big picture it could cost a financial collapse which Trump wants to avoid at all cost.


In other terms we should unconditionally surrender to Iran because it's all Trump's fault. Your love of country is showing.

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Sep 20, 2019 14:29:07   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
The last administration strengthened Iran for battle with the huge release of cash.

Iran funds a big portion of Hezbollah.

The last administration gave Hamas 221 million in its last hours in charge, for terrorist activity.

Hamas and Hezbollah are partners in terrorism.

The last administration left the Israel in a more vulnerable situation than it already was.

Israel will be forced to deal with Iran.

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Sep 20, 2019 14:34:18   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
byronglimish wrote:
The last administration strengthened Iran for battle with the huge release of cash.

Iran funds a big portion of Hezbollah.

The last administration gave Hamas 221 million in its last hours in charge, for terrorist activity.

Hamas and Hezbollah are partners in terrorism.

The last administration left the Israel in a more vulnerable situation than it already was.

Israel will be forced to deal with Iran.



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Sep 20, 2019 15:21:13   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Iran is the most problematic country in the world. It is arrogant, violent, and does not correct its aggression. Despite of its people sufferings the Ayotollah is the problem.

US must not directly engage in this war. Although US must assist or advise Saudi Arabia how to face this conflict. Since the world's economy is affected by Iran's destruction of Arabia's oil supplies, the UN countries, must join the conflict against Iran. Not the US alone.


I agree with you and CD. The becoming allies with China, no, they have an agenda. Not getting into wars is what Trump promised and just as we should pull out of Afghanistan, the middle east is not our ball field. The world's oil supply doesn't have to be affected by Iran we sell oil too.

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Sep 20, 2019 15:59:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
proud republican wrote:
Do we need another war???.....President Trump is supposed to get us out of wars.....not to start new one!!!
Get real, OK, the last thing president Trump wants is a war with Iran, he has just put a heavy sanction on Iran's central bank, and that is on top of the other economic sanctions that are causing the Iranian mullahs serious problems.

President Trump's military advisors--the Combined Chiefs of Staff--are quite familiar with Sun Tsu's first principle in the Art of War--to break the enemy's will to fight without fighting. An effective way to do that is to impose powerful economic sanctions -- IOW, cut off their options for waging war.

It seems that very few American citizens really understand the mind-set of radical Islamists. It would benefit you greatly to do some serious research into what drives radical Islam. It ain't a pretty picture. They put little value on human life, they are suicidal, martydom for the glory of Allah is one of their primary tactics in establishing a world caliphate, and they have many volunteers willing to commit Shahhid. The Ayatollah and all other leaders of Islamic fundamentalism are leading their dogs to the slaughter.

What makes Islam so different

If we don't do something now to stop Iranian aggression and hold off until they get their nuclear weapons operational, the threat will become exponentially greater and far more immediate. We shut the door on them now and we won't have to suffer the consequences.

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Sep 20, 2019 19:12:22   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Get real, OK, the last thing president Trump wants is a war with Iran, he has just put a heavy sanction on Iran's central bank, and that is on top of the other economic sanctions that are causing the Iranian mullahs serious problems.

President Trump's military advisors--the Combined Chiefs of Staff--are quite familiar with Sun Tsu's first principle in the Art of War--to break the enemy's will to fight without fighting. An effective way to do that is to impose powerful economic sanctions -- IOW, cut off their options for waging war.

It seems that very few American citizens really understand the mind-set of radical Islamists. It would benefit you greatly to do some serious research into what drives radical Islam. It ain't a pretty picture. They put little value on human life, they are suicidal, martydom for the glory of Allah is one of their primary tactics in establishing a world caliphate, and they have many volunteers willing to commit Shahhid. The Ayatollah and all other leaders of Islamic fundamentalism are leading their dogs to the slaughter.

What makes Islam so different

If we don't do something now to stop Iranian aggression and hold off until they get their nuclear weapons operational, the threat will become exponentially greater and far more immediate. We shut the door on them now and we won't have to suffer the consequences.
Get real, OK, the last thing president Trump wants... (show quote)



This is true. And if Poco-haunt'us or one of the brain dead "give the nation to all comers" clowns is in charge.

We have defended ourselves as the United States for the last time.

I know that you deny conspiracies, but there are many more Muslims inside our borders than folks believe.

I seriously wonder how many jihadists came across our borders when Obama and Holder were running operations on our border.

Muslims have recruited whites and other races to personal self reflection jihad first thing, until they are called upon for the main event.

Little Ashland Oregon is infested with terrorists.

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Sep 20, 2019 21:58:11   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
proud republican wrote:
Do we need another war???.....President Trump is supposed to get us out of wars.....not to start new one!!!


Iran is all about dollers and cents, it's an economic strategy.

Saudi Arabia is saying the attack on Aramco's facilities came from the North not from Iran, not that it did or it didn't, who cares anyway, the point is Saudi Arabia is attempting to shake down the market by plugging up the Iranian threat hoping investors will be thrilled to buy into the Saudi Aramco's IPO at hyped up politically inflated prices.

Not such an easy "can do" any more especially for an imbecile like Mohammad bin. Salman, they say on some platforms Egyptian President Sisi, that I always supported since July 3 2013 is on the way out because he's too tight with Salman.

The point I'm making is the "only" Country in the World with a smooth running economy can't become a normal state of affairs, at the moment the US is the "only" country with a smooth running economy this is an abnormality, and is caused by imagined enemies under every four leaf clover disclaiming any and every chance of anybody ever being lucky. Furthermore everyone that is a part of the problum has to be a part of the solution except the cause of the problum can't be included if there is to be an effective solution.

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Sep 20, 2019 22:11:12   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Iran is the most problematic country in the world. It is arrogant, violent, and does not correct its aggression. Despite of its people sufferings the Ayotollah is the problem.

US must not directly engage in this war. Although US must assist or advise Saudi Arabia how to face this conflict. Since the world's economy is affected by Iran's destruction of Arabia's oil supplies, the UN countries, must join the conflict against Iran. Not the US alone.


Absolutely correct!

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Sep 21, 2019 01:20:55   #
JoyV
 
Kevyn wrote:
Abide by the terms of the multinational agreement that brought their nuclear weapon program to a stop and was working brilliantly. Stop selling weapons to the Saudis until they stop killing civilians in Yemen as both houses of congress demand. Two can play the “maximum pressure” game and while the US can win in the big picture it could cost a financial collapse which Trump wants to avoid at all cost.


It did NOT bring their nuclear program to a stop. Even if they didn't break the agreement, the treaty itself allowed:
1) building dozens of accelerators to enrich uranium by more than 10 times the level needed for nuclear power plants.
2) Developing nuclear capable long range ICBMs. They have nuclear capable missiles estimated to reach 4,000 miles, and one under development is claimed to have a range of 6,000 miles. Hundreds of launches far more powerful than NK missiles have been made, including orbital launches. They also have the greatest number of nuclear capable missile in the Mideast. More even than Israel.
3) Developing sea based launches off ships and submarines.
4) Requiring inspectors to file a 3 to 6 month ahead of time inspection schedule which Iran must approve of before they could inspect.
5) Exempting accelerators and stockpiles on military bases from inspection.

One of the things they promised to do was sell much of their stockpiled highly enriched uranium to Russia. They sold some but kept back more than they agreed to, while also buying back the highly enriched uranium from Russia.

pictures:
1) Submarine nuclear capable ICBM launch.
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Sep 21, 2019 01:29:26   #
JoyV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The Iran crisis is a direct result of trump pulling out of the nuclear agreement with Iran. Any body who thinks other wise is a fool. --trump pulls out- Iran tries to wait him out then says-F-U. What could be expected? Stupidity caused this crisis.


Do you really believe they built 13 enrichment accelerators and enriched the amount of high grade unranium SINCE Trump pulled out of the unconstitutional deal? Just building that many accelerators could not have been done in that timetable.

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Sep 21, 2019 01:35:28   #
JoyV
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Tom, do you mean the agreement that Iran was violating left and right?
You mean the agreement that said US inspectors could not set foot in Iran, and the international inspectors had to give 30 days notice and were only allowed to inspect certain sites?
The agreement which exempted Iran's military bases from inspection?
The agreement which left Iran with more than enough centrifuges to continue weapons research?
The agreement in which Iran was given 150 billion dollars which they will doubtless spend on gay outreach programs and shelters for abused women?
Tom, do you mean the agreement that Iran was viola... (show quote)


Correction. Not a 30 day notice but a 90 day notice with Iran having the option of extending by 30 day increments to as much as 6 months.

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Sep 21, 2019 01:38:02   #
JoyV
 
Seth wrote:
The U.N. is too busy pursuing its globalist agenda to do what its charter mandates.

This is obvious in nearly everything that corrupt institution does, from appointing oppressive dictatorships to the "Human Rights" Commission to continuing to support corrupt, terrorist friendly bureaucracies like UNRWA.

Notice how the U.N. takes more funding from, and is based in the United States yet goes against us on nearly every issue.

We ought to evict them from Turtle Bay and send 'em packing to Brussels or someplace.
The U.N. is too busy pursuing its globalist agenda... (show quote)



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Sep 21, 2019 05:05:29   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JoyV wrote:
Do you really believe they built 13 enrichment accelerators and enriched the amount of high grade unranium SINCE Trump pulled out of the unconstitutional deal? Just building that many accelerators could not have been done in that timetable.


I do not condone the actions of trump and his administration when it comes to the situation we are now in. It is only because the Obama administration worked on and obtained the "peace" deal that trump and the cons wanted to scrap it to get a "better deal" This is not a joke. trump says he wants to avoid war but he is doing his best to start one on a global scale.

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Sep 21, 2019 05:22:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I do not condone the actions of trump and his administration when it comes to the situation we are now in. It is only because the Obama administration worked on and obtained the "peace" deal that trump and the cons wanted to scrap it to get a "better deal" This is not a joke. trump says he wants to avoid war but he is doing his best to start one on a global scale.


With who?

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