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Sep 18, 2019 14:08:47   #
woodguru
 
There seems to be questions, yet despite that there are voices in the GOP calling for decisive action by the president, while there are voices calling for care and staying out of Saudi affairs, it not being our problem.

As it turns out there are a couple of interesting things...
...multiple supposed drones or missiles, still nothing on that, but no deaths reported
...massive damage reported affecting half the Saudi production, yet they expect to be back to full production by the end of the month
...the loss to production affects only 6% of the world production supply for a few weeks at best, yet oil prices spiked significantly, interesting huh?

This thing benefits Russia to a huge degree, as did scrapping the Iran deal.

The US has no dog in this fight, yet Pompeo is off conspiring with the Saudi prince when he should be here engaging in comprehensive intelligence and state department strategy meetings. It would seem our president and his people don't care about anything but what the Kingdom and he believes needs to happen.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/461820-gop-lawmaker-us-shouldnt-attack-anybody-on-behalf-of-saudi-arabia

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Sep 18, 2019 14:11:43   #
Lonewolf
 
woodguru wrote:
There seems to be questions, yet despite that there are voices in the GOP calling for decisive action by the president, while there are voices calling for care and staying out of Saudi affairs, it not being our problem.

As it turns out there are a couple of interesting things...
...multiple supposed drones or missiles, still nothing on that, but no deaths reported
...massive damage reported affecting half the Saudi production, yet they expect to be back to full production by the end of the month
...the loss to production affects only 6% of the world production supply for a few weeks at best, yet oil prices spiked significantly, interesting huh?

This thing benefits Russia to a huge degree, as did scrapping the Iran deal.

The US has no dog in this fight, yet Pompeo is off conspiring with the Saudi prince when he should be here engaging in comprehensive intelligence and state department strategy meetings. It would seem our president and his people don't care about anything but what the Kingdom and he believes needs to happen.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/461820-gop-lawmaker-us-shouldnt-attack-anybody-on-behalf-of-saudi-arabia
There seems to be questions, yet despite that ther... (show quote)


helps russia that sounds abought right for this adminstratiom!

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Sep 18, 2019 14:21:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:

The US has no dog in this fight,
Yeah, we do. Problem is there are just too many bleeding heart leftists who are too damned stupid to understand the geopolitics in the ME and that Iran is an extreme threat to world peace.

Trump haters are a bunch of spoiled narcissistic blind fools.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:34:24   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, we do. Problem is there are just too many bleeding heart leftists who are too damned stupid to understand the geopolitics in the ME and that Iran is an extreme threat to world peace.

Trump haters are a bunch of spoiled narcissistic blind fools.


I don't care what's going on, they can work it out themselves, we do not need to bomb the country to hell and displace more than ten million people. The world is having a difficult time absorbing millions of refugees in case you hadn't noticed that.

Trump created this, directly. The deal struck by Iran and NATO kept them in line.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:44:41   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
woodguru wrote:
There seems to be questions, yet despite that there are voices in the GOP calling for decisive action by the president, while there are voices calling for care and staying out of Saudi affairs, it not being our problem.

As it turns out there are a couple of interesting things...
...multiple supposed drones or missiles, still nothing on that, but no deaths reported
...massive damage reported affecting half the Saudi production, yet they expect to be back to full production by the end of the month
...the loss to production affects only 6% of the world production supply for a few weeks at best, yet oil prices spiked significantly, interesting huh?

This thing benefits Russia to a huge degree, as did scrapping the Iran deal.

The US has no dog in this fight, yet Pompeo is off conspiring with the Saudi prince when he should be here engaging in comprehensive intelligence and state department strategy meetings. It would seem our president and his people don't care about anything but what the Kingdom and he believes needs to happen.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/461820-gop-lawmaker-us-shouldnt-attack-anybody-on-behalf-of-saudi-arabia
There seems to be questions, yet despite that ther... (show quote)


That's a good clip, not exactly an article with any kind of assessment, but I can tell you who did make a good assessment of the motivation and logistics of the mission and that's Ron Paul Liberty Report, Ron and Daniel concluded that it was Houthis fully justified and logistically very credible.

The distances were well within the range of their drones and the accuracy of drone navigational guidance is not Hi-Tec anymore, furthermore I think this new guy O'Brien taking over from Bolton was a speech writer for room-with-a-view Mick Romney no wonder Obama got a second term, but the reeds in the swampy marsh were a lot thicker then.

Trump has drained it a bit, anyone else would have had a psychological problum putting up with Bolton, but Bolton just went over Trump's head and was doing great, made the mistake ruffling Trump's implants, did I ever mentioned on OPP I once played the Saxophone and Clarinet, I can't remember, but room-with-a-view certainly became a Stranger on the Shore.

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Sep 18, 2019 15:04:19   #
JustMPat
 
woodguru wrote:
There seems to be questions...


A good question would be if the money that Obama sent to Iran had in some way financed this attack on the Saudi Refinery.

https://bongino.com/yes-obama-paid-iran-a-1-7-billion-ransom/

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Sep 18, 2019 15:05:19   #
Kevyn
 
Lonewolf wrote:
helps russia that sounds abought right for this adminstratiom!


The other signal it sends is that Iran can through proxies apply “maximum pressure” to the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer by disrupting the supply of oil, tanking world economy’s including ours. Think if this hit a couple of supertankers or LNG transports, as it likely will if we retaliate for action the Saudis earned with their war on civilians in Yemen.

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Sep 18, 2019 15:11:13   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
I don't care what's going on, they can work it out themselves, we do not need to bomb the country to hell and displace more than ten million people. The world is having a difficult time absorbing millions of refugees in case you hadn't noticed that.

Trump created this, directly. The deal struck by Iran and NATO kept them in line.


LOL! Right! Obama gives them billions and then they start getting all rowdy but it's Trumps fault. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to Trump we now know without a doubt that Iran wasn't keeping their part of the nuclear deal.

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Sep 18, 2019 15:17:01   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JustMPat wrote:
A good question would be if the money that Obama sent to Iran had in some way financed this attack on the Saudi Refinery.

https://bongino.com/yes-obama-paid-iran-a-1-7-billion-ransom/


Of course it did!

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Sep 18, 2019 15:19:45   #
JustMPat
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Of course it did!



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Sep 18, 2019 15:20:22   #
JustMPat
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
LOL! Right! Obama gives them billions and then they start getting all rowdy but it's Trumps fault. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to Trump we now know without a doubt that Iran wasn't keeping their part of the nuclear deal.



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Sep 18, 2019 15:27:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
helps russia that sounds abought right for this adminstratiom!


How is Russia helped by this Iran attack?

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Sep 18, 2019 16:42:22   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
How is Russia helped by this Iran attack?


Russia believes the F-22 Raptor and F-35 is obsolete technology.

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Sep 18, 2019 17:16:49   #
Lonewolf
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
How is Russia helped by this Iran attack?


Raises the price of oil which helps Russia significantly

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Sep 18, 2019 17:20:45   #
Lonewolf
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, we do. Problem is there are just too many bleeding heart leftists who are too damned stupid to understand the geopolitics in the ME and that Iran is an extreme threat to world peace.

Trump haters are a bunch of spoiled narcissistic blind fools.


No one is arguing the point that I ran is very dangerous but the point I'm trying to make is did they actually do this if so Saudi Arabia should take appropriate steps whatever today think is necessary there's no need for us to get involved in this 17 years in the sandbox is way too much. Personally I think the Saudis did this to themselves by placing charges in places they could repair Easley all this horrible damage they claim will be repaired by the end of the month that alone makes me very suspicious.

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