woodguru

Laws designed to prevent kids from being shot by guns that are easily accessible by kids have proved to dramatically reduce this kind of tragic "accident".

Laws requiring guns to be secured in households with kids make sense, no handguns laying around in nightstands, carried in the backseat of cars, left unsecured in any way where kids could get them.

Growing up, as a teen we had three teen aged kids shot with guns. Teen age boys are curious about guns, it's the way it is, two of these incidents were friends showing their friends their dad's guns when they went off, killing their friend.

The one that's hard to even talk about was how close I came to shooting a friend with my dad's .45, my dad didn't think I was ready to shoot a .45, but I was good at getting into the cabinet where he kept it. These have to be handled by people who know how to handle a gun that has quirks. I was racking the slide, holding it sideways and missed my friend by a small enough margin that his sweat shirt had powder burns. Tragedies happen that quick, and if you think I was a disobedient boy that somehow deserved that you are wrong. I was a normal curious boy with a love and fascination with guns and hunting.

A much better cabinet with better locks would have prevented me from shooting his gun without supervision. That is what laws designed to keep kids from accidentally getting their hands on guns is about.

Liberty Tree

Laws are only as good as people's willingness to follow them.

badbob85037

Since when has tough laws stopped criminals from doing what criminals do? Why don't you enlighten me by showing the tough laws that has slowed down the criminals. Or I'll make it easier on you, show me any law. Detroit has enough gun laws to chock a horse but it's murder rate is 65.5 per 100,000, Saint Louis 64.6, Baltimore 55.2,New Orleans 40.4, Kansas City 31.7, Cleveland 33.4 and on and on. The average for America is 4.5 per 100,000. So let's look at these cities with sky high murder rates and find the common denominator. All these cities have no jobs, high poverty, no way out, massive gun laws, and all long histories of being in Democrat control. When you are ready to use something but emotions to discus the issue and the problems along with their cures let me know. With all the information I have seen it would point to tyrant democrats disarming the good allowing them to be easy pray for the criminals. Plano Texas has more guns per citizen than any place in the nation it's murder rate in 1 per 100,000. Get rid of democrats, give the good back their Second Amendment, problem solved.

If I were you I would buy me some guns and take responsibility for you and your family's safety. Anyone suing a police department for the death of a loved one that could have been prevented lost because police are not there to protect anyone from anything. Police are there to protect the population as a whole. Not you or me.

As far as keeping your guns under lock and key that is common sense. If I was reckless keeping loaded guns out and about my home I would still have no worry because my girls and my grandsons all know gun safety and how to use fire arms. It was drilled into them with bb guns before they were big enough to hold them.

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

2quick4u Loc: Somewhere in central Tx...

Wile E..if you’re so concerned about kids why are you only obsessed with guns, when they aren’t the biggest or most pressing problem. I sure cars are a much bigger killer-why aren’t you talking about this. Do you routinely misplace your (stated) priorities in order to to take shots at things you continuously show a blatant animus towards???

badbob85037

You know my father owned a lot of guns both handgun and rifles. As you I also could get at his firearms. The only difference is my father taught me the use and safety of firearms long before I could get access to them as all kids do. i have never shot anything or anyone I wasn't aiming at. Gun safety has back ups. You can't break just one rule and shoot someone by accident Not teaching your children gun safety in a nation with 400 million firearms is just as bad as not teaching them to walk across the street.

Don't they grow up fast.

Mike Easterday

Teach kids early about shooting, takes away the curiosity.

Carol Kelly

Ditto and AMEN!

Carol Kelly

Good analysis.

Gatsby

It is a shame that your dad didn't know enough about "gun safety" to teach it to his children,

from the time that you were able to lift a gun. A friends son was killed in an incident much as you

described, there were six teenagers together, one got ahold of his grandparents .380 auto.

Not a single one knew even the First Commandment of Firearm Safety:

"Always treat every gun as if it were LOADED".

Think how many tragedies could be prevented, just by posting "The Ten Commandments of Gun Safety"

in every classroom in America.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

I think he was talking about securing guns so kids don't get them and hurt or kill someone.

I say a gun locked away is liitle help if an intruder is in your home.

Its the new generation parents that are the problem.

Dad had guns I could have gotten into but Dad taught me to obey, leave his stuff alone but also taught me a healthy respect for gun safety and how to use guns

We don't need gun laws, we need parents ass's kicked for their jackass parenting.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

My father had handgun... My uncles all had rifles... Six of our neighbors were hunters... In was routinely around guns as a young boy... Never touched one without adult supervision...

Kevyn

What does that do for the three kids needlessly blasted?

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Really?
It's the leftist "YOU" agenda that is responsible but your incapable of understanding that removing God from schools, destroying the family unit, putting laws in place that punishes parents and teachers for "Proper disciplining children has removed the moral compass. Created xyz generation of narcissist, wimps.
When our university students (Nationwide) are coddled, forgiven papers due, given puppies and cocoa because the president that won the election wasn't of their choosing. When full grown ass adults spend weeks crying, hollering at the moon, mass hysteria because the President that won the election wasn't of their choosing and these are who are raising our children.
It's the leftist agenda and the leftist (You Kevy) will be held accountable before God one day soon and asked why you taught your children to reject God and his ways, his moral compass, his instructions of raising a child and discipline. It is these generations that all the bad has multiplied in our nation.

I rest my case
Jesus is King and Lord
His ways not leftist ways!!

Jack

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

All my friends and I used to take our guns to school. Nobody got shot and there were no laws, so factor that in.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Because if we miss used them either Mom or Dad would give us the fear of God talk, or kick our ass.
Depending on our age of reasoning, a spanking with hand, spoon, or belt would reset our compass of limits, right and wrong.
A few decades back laws changed and parents have been or are arrested for child abuse and charged for giving their child a spanking.
I didn't get tons of spankings but the ones I did get made me learn very fast right and wrong. How to think for myself what was right and wrong . Some out of fear of punishment, mostly to avoid punishment and make my parents proud.

The last 40 years kids flip their parents off, hate their parents and have set their own compass on what is right or wrong even which wrongs are ok because their parents didn't set their compass for them.

Jack