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Sep 11, 2019 15:52:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
RT friend wrote:
He's going to link up with Farage and will be unstoppable without Divine intervention, but you know what God is like, the Tory party won't survive unless Brexit goes unbelievably good, same situation as the Republican Party if things turn sour, hope not.


Realistically speaking, if the Brits hadn't joined the Common Market in "58 I might believe BREXIT had a real chance but you know how it goes, political union follows economic union. I don't think they'll quite do it. They may do something they call a BREXIT but actually isn't.

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Sep 11, 2019 15:53:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JediKnight wrote:
THE ENTIRE CURRENT REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE TRAITORS!! -there, fixed it for ya' -and no charge!


Some are coming into line...it's getting better.

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Sep 11, 2019 16:01:49   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And given trumps's inability to tell the truth, bolton is probably right.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/10/trump-ousts-john-bolton-as-national-security-adviser-1488093


Bolton, a holdover from the cold war. What do you expect him to say? "Mommy, that nasty Trump hurt my feelings." I suppose you want to keep the war going too. I think my nephew is tending poppies in Iraq, Afghanistan is pointless, actually, Iraq is too. We do have to shore up Israel's security.

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Sep 11, 2019 16:53:52   #
JediKnight
 
BigMike wrote:
Some are coming into line...it's getting better.


Well we can always hope Big Mike! I believe the 15 or so that have opted to retire simply know that their 'constituents' are now awake and can see the writing on the wall.

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Sep 11, 2019 18:32:09   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
BigMike wrote:
Realistically speaking, if the Brits hadn't joined the Common Market in "58 I might believe BREXIT had a real chance but you know how it goes, political union follows economic union. I don't think they'll quite do it. They may do something they call a BREXIT but actually isn't.


I was there in London when they were deciding to join I was living and working in Hackney, it's changed now I've heard, but the last day I worked at Lesneys Matchbox Toys (people collect them now) the Forman gave me a ride home and he said when I was arguing with him that Ireland should be Ireland not Britain he said "but that would be giving in to them" meaning the IRA.

It's still same thing today keeping Britain in the EU.

Other Countries are in the Customs Union but not in the EU, but they got no border issues.

Sure Britain could leave and remain in the European Union Customs Union which they never were in 1973 and be bound legally by the Customs Union but have no representation in the Customs Union Proceedings.

Sure Britain could leave without a deal as Boris is set to do I think and so the EU woul say to Ireland that "like every other EU member, it's your Irish Republic responsibility to ensure goods and services made available to Ireland as a privlige of membership cannot be passed on to another Country".

So the IRA hostilities ended April 1998 with the Good Friday Agreement which was mostly about getting along and gradual acceptance based on the principal of an open border.

2007 - power sharing Northern Ireland Government, Iran Paisley is first minister and Sinn Feins McGuinness is his deputy.

2011 - The Queen visits Ireland, x - IRA Commander shakes hand with the Queen.

Scottish activists want independence, the Unionist Party in Northern Ireland want the opposite and the Irish Republic want to stay in the EU, you got to ask why ? and it's because the Irish issue is the least convert financial aspect of the leave proposition.

If Britain is out with a no deal on the 31st Oct. everything changes and the arguments of Irish Unity will likely come back with a Vengence built-in by a mafia black market providing funds for militancy.

However the Brexit leave campaign of Nigel Farage will be over and he can retire again leaving the Tory Party to be called traitors and responsible if things go down hill particularly so because everything will be privatised.

Maybe it's the same in the US the issues emerging are becoming greater in importance that the 2 Party system, destined to be either Militaristic Nationalistic Popularism (Republicans) or (Democrats) supportive of Globalism where Nations of less significance begin emerging.


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Sep 11, 2019 19:19:24   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JediKnight wrote:
Well we can always hope Big Mike! I believe the 15 or so that have opted to retire simply know that their 'constituents' are now awake and can see the writing on the wall.


We need the serpents out! 2018 saw the smarter ones bow out. The ones that don't this time are in trouble...or should I say, more immediate trouble. Those who leave might have their indictments remain sealed for a long time. It's a good deal.

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Sep 11, 2019 19:24:10   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
RT friend wrote:
I was there in London when they were deciding to join I was living and working in Hackney, it's changed now I've heard, but the last day I worked at Lesneys Matchbox Toys (people collect them now) the Forman gave me a ride home and he said when I was arguing with him that Ireland should be Ireland not Britain he said "but that would be giving in to them" meaning the IRA.

It's still same thing today keeping Britain in the EU.

Other Countries are in the Customs Union but not in the EU, but they got no border issues.

Sure Britain could leave and remain in the European Union Customs Union which they never were in 1973 and be bound legally by the Customs Union but have no representation in the Customs Union Proceedings.

Sure Britain could leave without a deal as Boris is set to do I think and so the EU woul say to Ireland that "like every other EU member, it's your Irish Republic responsibility to ensure goods and services made available to Ireland as a privlige of membership cannot be passed on to another Country".

So the IRA hostilities ended April 1998 with the Good Friday Agreement which was mostly about getting along and gradual acceptance based on the principal of an open border.

2007 - power sharing Northern Ireland Government, Iran Paisley is first minister and Sinn Feins McGuinness is his deputy.

2011 - The Queen visits Ireland, x - IRA Commander shakes hand with the Queen.

Scottish activists want independence, the Unionist Party in Northern Ireland want the opposite and the Irish Republic want to stay in the EU, you got to ask why ? and it's because the Irish issue is the least convert financial aspect of the leave proposition.

If Britain is out with a no deal on the 31st Oct. everything changes and the arguments of Irish Unity will likely come back with a Vengence built-in by a mafia black market providing funds for militancy.

However the Brexit leave campaign of Nigel Farage will be over and he can retire again leaving the Tory Party to be called traitors and responsible if things go down hill particularly so because everything will be privatised.

Maybe it's the same in the US the issues emerging are becoming greater in importance that the 2 Party system, destined to be either Militaristic Nationalistic Popularism (Republicans) or (Democrats) supportive of Globalism where Nations of less significance begin emerging.

I was there in London when they were deciding to ... (show quote)


excellent post.

The difference between us and the Brits is we're backward Americans and our economy never got linked up the way theirs did. What a happy chance of timing, eh?

Plus we're armed to the teeth...that's no joke. You wouldn't believe what some folks around here have.

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Sep 12, 2019 04:14:21   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
BigMike wrote:
excellent post.

The difference between us and the Brits is we're backward Americans and our economy never got linked up the way theirs did. What a happy chance of timing, eh?

Plus we're armed to the teeth...that's no joke. You wouldn't believe what some folks around here have.


Thanks, I believe it, the reason US economy never got linked up except for Tech Stocks was because you got the dead weigh of being the World's Reserve Currency, now with AI it's even going to be tougher for manufacturing, but doesn't have to be if everyone is willing to co-operate, if that could happen it really would be a happy chance of timing.

Import replacement is better than fighting, that's really what protectionism is but it comes with isolation Trump's on that path with Boris but the Irish Republic joined the EU 2 years before Britain in order to isolate themselves from Britain, so isolation worked for the Irish just got to stick at it, nothing works out like we plan.


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Sep 12, 2019 09:54:35   #
Airforceone
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And given trumps's inability to tell the truth, bolton is probably right.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/10/trump-ousts-john-bolton-as-national-security-adviser-1488093


I do not agree with Bolton on a lot of his policies but Bolton with all his extreme views wants to keep this country safe I just disagree with what he wants to do. Bolton is no mystery, he has been around a long time. He just has extreme views about Iran, North Korea, and Trump knew this when he hired Bolton as his NSA. But Trump screwed himself when he indicated that Bolton is not a very smart person. Bolton’s quote yesterday to Trump I will answer this at the appropriate time.
Look out Trump here comes another book about how stupid and incompetent you are. Bolton has a lot of followers in this country and one thing about Bolton he is by no means stupid as you indicated and he will have something to say.
He will expose you and Pompeo and what exactly your North Korea, Iran and Russian connection really is. He will tell the American people exactly how Kim Jong-Un became Trumps new best friend. Bolton has had access to all those daily intelligence briefings, which Trump ignores. So it appears that Bolton was working on a policy to address the ongoing development of nuclear weapons in North Korea and the Russian ongoing attempts at Russian hacking in our Elections. And Trump and Pompeo wanted Bolton to stop. But like I said Bolton has extreme views on keeping this country safe I don’t agree with him but his intent is keep this country safe.

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Sep 12, 2019 14:10:26   #
JediKnight
 
BigMike wrote:
We need the serpents out! 2018 saw the smarter ones bow out. The ones that don't this time are in trouble...or should I say, more immediate trouble. Those who leave might have their indictments remain sealed for a long time. It's a good deal.


Call me 'greedy' -I want them out and "in" prison.



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Sep 12, 2019 15:01:07   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
RT friend wrote:
Thanks, I believe it, the reason US economy never got linked up except for Tech Stocks was because you got the dead weigh of being the World's Reserve Currency, now with AI it's even going to be tougher for manufacturing, but doesn't have to be if everyone is willing to co-operate, if that could happen it really would be a happy chance of timing.

Import replacement is better than fighting, that's really what protectionism is but it comes with isolation Trump's on that path with Boris but the Irish Republic joined the EU 2 years before Britain in order to isolate themselves from Britain, so isolation worked for the Irish just got to stick at it, nothing works out like we plan.

Thanks, I believe it, the reason US economy neve... (show quote)


Think the English, Irish and Scots will ever get along?

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Sep 12, 2019 15:02:22   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JediKnight wrote:
Call me 'greedy' -I want them out and "in" prison.


The ones who bow out have no guarantee they won't see prison...just that there are many others to prosecute first.

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Sep 12, 2019 15:03:46   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Airforceone wrote:
I do not agree with Bolton on a lot of his policies but Bolton with all his extreme views wants to keep this country safe I just disagree with what he wants to do. Bolton is no mystery, he has been around a long time. He just has extreme views about Iran, North Korea, and Trump knew this when he hired Bolton as his NSA. But Trump screwed himself when he indicated that Bolton is not a very smart person. Bolton’s quote yesterday to Trump I will answer this at the appropriate time.
Look out Trump here comes another book about how stupid and incompetent you are. Bolton has a lot of followers in this country and one thing about Bolton he is by no means stupid as you indicated and he will have something to say.
He will expose you and Pompeo and what exactly your North Korea, Iran and Russian connection really is. He will tell the American people exactly how Kim Jong-Un became Trumps new best friend. Bolton has had access to all those daily intelligence briefings, which Trump ignores. So it appears that Bolton was working on a policy to address the ongoing development of nuclear weapons in North Korea and the Russian ongoing attempts at Russian hacking in our Elections. And Trump and Pompeo wanted Bolton to stop. But like I said Bolton has extreme views on keeping this country safe I don’t agree with him but his intent is keep this country safe.
I do not agree with Bolton on a lot of his policie... (show quote)


What a dopey response! Bolton is a warmonger who would get a bunch of us KILLED...already has!

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Sep 12, 2019 16:39:18   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
BigMike wrote:
Think the English, Irish and Scots will ever get along?


I think so this is their big chance, it's differren now after this entire century plus a bit left over from last one with amicable relations.

There is a Religion dimension to it too, the Reformation was a very just cause that led to Republicanism, if you google up Cromwell there is not any straight forward tight cast identities following on in the Irish time line, I was surprised how diverse it all became that's why I think the problums are more financial than apartheid, one solution I heard about was if Britain really does quit EU it may be possible to put the backstop with the Irish Sea as the Customs boundary and leave everything else unchanged.


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Sep 12, 2019 17:17:22   #
JediKnight
 
Airforceone: Do you really think Bolton will shed some truthful light on Trump's miscarriages of justice? I hope he does, but so far, everyone that I thought would do the same folded like a cheap suit. I don't know if Trump buys them off, or intimidates them with some type of threat -but so far - no joy.

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