Besides guns, what do cons consider god given rights to be? (Page 5): And the bill of rights was written by men with quills and paper, and not carved into some stone tablet, but I...

factnotfiction

JoyV wrote:

If you change God given to inalienable (which could be god given or not) , then the most important are the right to life, liberty, and property. Then the right to free speech, assembly, and religion. In fact ALL rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights!!!!

And the bill of rights was written by men with quills and paper, and not carved into some stone tablet, but I notice that you did not include guns like so many cons do

JoyV

factnotfiction wrote:

Well let's just see what happens to you if you pull out a gun in a police station, a military base, a court house an airplane or airport, etc.

Yep, the government or state will mandate where you can carry and display your gun, and there is nothing that you can do about it.

So the government or states 'trumps' you god given rights in this case, don't they?

Certainly there are things you can do about it. One is legislate, another is educate, and another is fight for your rights as our founders did.

JoyV

crazylibertarian wrote:

I'm a conservative, so he called me stupid by Set ... (show quote)

There is a curious fact or coincident I've not heard anyone address regarding powerful hurricanes. Every category 5, or very strong hurricanes before the categories were devised, have occurred during years of cooler climate. This contradicts the hypothesis that hotter climate causes more extreme weather. The hypothesis sounds rational. But in real life it doesn't pan out. At least so far as hurricanes go.

JoyV

Peewee wrote:

Not really. The state carries a sword to protect the people, not to subdue them.

Eventually, those with power over others, use that power to keep it and expand it, or worse.

JoyV

factnotfiction wrote:

So we have an understanding, I will continue to bash trump, his supporters and conservatives and republicans because of their flawed policies and thought processes.

You and most of the other trump connies really don't know how discuss a topic without attacking, but then you all whine and cry and complain.

And if you don't like what I post, TOUGH

But if and that is a huge if, you limit your replies to refuting a post, then that is progress

I am one of the biggest Trump supporters and admired him since the 70s. So show where I've attacked anyone.

factnotfiction

JoyV wrote:

I am one of the biggest Trump supporters and admired him since the 70s. So show where I've attacked anyone.

That is the reply to one called crazylibertarian, and yes I have not seen you make unwarranted attacks on any other poster, which goes to show the grossly ignorant that civility can exist on OPP

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

factnotfiction wrote:

I merely answer personal attacks with the same vigor that the connies use.

And the Law is clearly written down in statutes and edicts written by men

What core beliefs did these men base these laws?

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

factnotfiction wrote:

It always comes to down to 'it is MY god given right to have guns and carry guns and to shoot guns.

So what other rights did god give to cons that should not be controlled or restricted?

God gave me the right to have opinions pinhead.

factnotfiction

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

God gave me the right to have opinions pinhead.

Just like everyone else, and yours is no more important, understand pinhead?

Tug484

America 1 wrote:

Only points out your "stupidity and lunacy."
Most likely not divine.

Read your Bible. You might learn something.
I'm far from stupid or loony.

JoyV

factnotfiction wrote:

And the bill of rights was written by men with quills and paper, and not carved into some stone tablet, but I notice that you did not include guns like so many cons do

The question was what rights OTHER than guns. But regardless, the 2nd amendment IS part of the Bill of Rights. But what you don't understand when you say the rights were written by men, is the men only wrote a GUARANTEE to not INFRINGE on the already existing rights.

Again. They did NOT write the rights, only the guarantee to not take them away!!!!!!

Tug484

JoyV wrote:

The question was what rights OTHER than guns. But regardless, the 2nd amendment IS part of the Bill of Rights. But what you don't understand when you say the rights were written by men, is the men only wrote a GUARANTEE to not INFRINGE on the already existing rights.

Again. They did NOT write the rights, only the guarantee to not take them away!!!!!!

Amen

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

JoyV wrote:

The question was what rights OTHER than guns. But regardless, the 2nd amendment IS part of the Bill of Rights. But what you don't understand when you say the rights were written by men, is the men only wrote a GUARANTEE to not INFRINGE on the already existing rights.

Again. They did NOT write the rights, only the guarantee to not take them away!!!!!!

There It is!!

Navigator

factnotfiction wrote:

It always comes to down to 'it is MY god given right to have guns and carry guns and to shoot guns.

So what other rights did god give to cons that should not be controlled or restricted?

I'm sure you know it is the democrats who are working overtime to insure people retain their 2nd amendment rights after becoming cons-this is opposed by republicans.

Navigator

factnotfiction wrote:

Well let's just see what happens to you if you pull out a gun in a police station, a military base, a court house an airplane or airport, etc.

Yep, the government or state will mandate where you can carry and display your gun, and there is nothing that you can do about it.

So the government or states 'trumps' you god given rights in this case, don't they?

No, the government is "infringing" on your god given rights in these cases.