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Do we need more Psychiatric Hospitals for homeless people???
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Aug 30, 2019 21:34:51   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!

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Aug 30, 2019 22:13:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
proud republican wrote:
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!


I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals that have outpatient services to treat people before they abandon life to live on the streets. Plus, not all homeless people have mental disorders. Some are there to escape worse conditions at home. Some have fallen into hard times and still others are there because of events they could not foresee or tragedy like a sudden death of the primary bread earner. Under Obama the majority of people were one paycheck away from the streets. I think we need to address these people before we consider clothing, feeding, and housing illegals.

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Aug 30, 2019 22:35:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
proud republican wrote:
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!




My plan would be, have work centers for capable free range peoples.

Many live in tents already, so something along the lines of Joe Arpaio's tent farms.

That sort of thing was good enough for folks who migrated west and picked fruit.

Heroin and Meth are rampant in the free range communities.

So cleaning up their illicit drug use would be a priority.

Free range people steal to buy drugs,

Burglaries and shoplifting would diminish, by placing structure in the free rangers game utilizing a supervised setting.

They can either work or move on.

Do not give the free range human a choice.

Many are a waste of skin, and would need rehabilitated.

The FRH who can work, must work!!

The liberals argue vehemently that the poor unborn should be terminated, because of a uphill rough existence.

I propose that the liberals apply that philosophy to the free range culls.

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Aug 30, 2019 22:54:47   #
Iliamna1
 
Why not buy some of those empty malls and reconfigure them to house the homeless. There should be no option. At those malls, you can set up clinics for those who want help and help those who are able to get jobs. Have classes for those who need a GED. WHY NOT? They'd have a bed to sleep in, a toilet and meals and off the streets.

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Aug 30, 2019 23:00:12   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Why not buy some of those empty malls and reconfigure them to house the homeless. There should be no option. At those malls, you can set up clinics for those who want help and help those who are able to get jobs. Have classes for those who need a GED. WHY NOT? They'd have a bed to sleep in, a toilet and meals and off the streets.


I would agree that sort of facility for families.

Or clean and sober singles.

Drug dependent need a different structure.

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Aug 30, 2019 23:48:25   #
son of witless
 
proud republican wrote:
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!


Great Idea and I want to honor the great Democratic Presidents. Like the way we put Republican Presidents names on Military Ships, such as the USS Ronald Reagan, I think we should honor Democrats Presidents by naming Psychiatric Hospitals after them. The Barak Obama Mental Illness Center sounds pretty good to me. I think next to the Barak Obama Presidential Library is a good location.

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Aug 31, 2019 01:20:53   #
Radiance3
 
proud republican wrote:
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!

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I want that those DEMOCRAT cities, counties, and states, populated by homeless and rat infestations must:
1. Build a medical facility to house all the drug addicts with medical doctors to visit and cure, with fully guarded security officers. These drug addicts could be very dangerous especially when their drug cravings are so high.

2. Those homeless who are not drug addicts could be built low income apartments complex free of rent. The funding could come from various multi-millionaires and billionaires. These could be done if only elected leaders who manage their cities and care about their own people. These people could go to work as soon as they are given a start.

The location will be cleaned up, free of diseases, rats. It will be a very good project for the sake of those who are less fortunate. If they do that, God will bless them and that city.

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Aug 31, 2019 01:26:24   #
badbob85037
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals that have outpatient services to treat people before they abandon life to live on the streets. Plus, not all homeless people have mental disorders. Some are there to escape worse conditions at home. Some have fallen into hard times and still others are there because of events they could not foresee or tragedy like a sudden death of the primary bread earner. Under Obama the majority of people were one paycheck away from the streets. I think we need to address these people before we consider clothing, feeding, and housing illegals.
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals th... (show quote)


People no longer live pay check to pay check. With all these title loan places popping up on every street charging 400% interest it is a lot worse than that. A friend borrowed some cash from one of these places. On his way out one of the employees of the place ran out catching him saying he had forgotten to sign a paper. He should had read what he had 'forgotten' to sign. Told he had 60 days to pay the loan off 30 days latter they showed up at his house with a tow truck and towed off a custom Jeep worth 20 times the money he borrowed.

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Aug 31, 2019 01:32:35   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
badbob85037 wrote:
People no longer live pay check to pay check. With all these title loan places popping up on every street charging 400% interest it is a lot worse than that. A friend borrowed some cash from one of these places. On his way out one of the employees of the place ran out catching him saying he had forgotten to sign a paper. He should had read what he had 'forgotten' to sign. Told he had 60 days to pay the loan off 30 days latter they showed up at his house with a tow truck and towed off a custom Jeep worth 20 times the money he borrowed.
People no longer live pay check to pay check. With... (show quote)



Those lenders are paracites! I am sorry your friend lost his Jeep....truly sad. Those kinds of lenders need to be shut down!!!

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Aug 31, 2019 05:29:56   #
Gatsby
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals that have outpatient services to treat people before they abandon life to live on the streets. Plus, not all homeless people have mental disorders. Some are there to escape worse conditions at home. Some have fallen into hard times and still others are there because of events they could not foresee or tragedy like a sudden death of the primary bread earner. Under Obama the majority of people were one paycheck away from the streets. I think we need to address these people before we consider clothing, feeding, and housing illegals.
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals th... (show quote)


Many of the homeless simply prefer to deal with the rats on the streets, rather than deal with the rats in

CITY HALL!

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Aug 31, 2019 07:45:31   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
proud republican wrote:
I would say ..Yes...Most homeless people have some kind of psychiatric problems...I think building more of these hospitals will help with homeless problems and get them off the streets and in place where they can eat 3 meals a day,get meds and sleep in beds and not on the streets It will be safe for them and even safer for us......Plus we can clean up the streets and make them safe again for the rest of us!!!


It was Reagan that closed mental institutions, and both sides allowed funding to lapse, virtually disappearing community mental health clinics. I grant that reforms were needed as many of those institutions were working the system instead of helping patients, but closing them was not the answer. True to the norm in this country, we wandered from one extreme to another.

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Aug 31, 2019 08:27:28   #
Trumpnotthestormiestpres Loc: L.A.
 
We could afford all those lovely hospitals clinic and facilities with the hundreds of billions we are spending to babysit the world's demented poor.

How about the path to citizenship is two years spent nursing the homeless dementia victims and hopeless cases abandoned to the streets.

let's face it folks.

1. A lot of people had kids they couldn't take care of. or afford. But our culture encourages people to take every chance.
well what happens when parents are worn out and the fifty something child wanders out into the streets vaguely aware of what is going on?

2. A lot of people had kids they knew weren't healthy. And to hell with the external social cost.

after years of cocooning them in family life and residences, the word is out. Something is a little...off. But mommy and daddy want to check out.

Then junior gets a gun and unloads on the Flamingo or sandy hook or Dayton or El Paso or a church in Charlotte or a Jewish synagogue.

. The 1940s and 1950s had ways of dealing with the percentages. That was dealt with carefully. now strangers count their dead because dozens of parents in Anytown USA wanted to smoke weed or slack off or knit afghans instead of deal responsibly with their kids.

Remember that movie the Village? The parents knew he was psycho. then after the killings, the mother keeps sobbing and cries out when the men discuss what to do. Waaahh.

A thirty- year-old man with a driver's license and a double custom magazine of automatic weapon materiel is not a three year old . the social contract has a lot of fine print ppl don't read.
like any other outcome it makes sense.Why be accountable? teachers and priests and scout leaders and babysitters can deal with it.

.these people shield their children and them selves from the consequences. And el Paso and Dayton has to pay the price.

3. A lot of people wanted to be heroes and raised kids that needed millions of dollars in housing , medication, and physician care. How did they think it was going to end?

These kids become poison pills for the communities around them.

4. A lot of people died or were put in eldercare while they were responsible for another person needing round the clock care. there are nowhere near enough police and licensed social workers to sort them out.

5. a lot of people were financially dependent on dole systems but couldn't or wouldn't abide by requirements , documentation, didn't appear at hearing's or interviews, and just drifted away.

I've watched people show up on the first of the month just so they can afford what drugs their check will buy. tokens and vouchers and things they can trade.
this cycle in Los Angeles is hundreds of thousands of people. parked in vans near your childs' school. washing in your kid's library restrooms. cruising your local grocery store.

(And still South American mob the border for "jobs".?)

6. the appeal of living without any accountability is too appealing for people. Why work when they see hundreds of people to their left and right doing nothing all day?

if they are already on the edge they see little reward in the effort of following rules of a shelter or waiting in line in 109 degrees for food they don't want.

A borderline case become worse. these ppl don't go to group. they don't go to scheduled appts. they don't take their insulin for weeks until an ambulance admits them to hospital for diabetic coma.

7. People want to collect their check, gather cans, search trash, vomit on the sidewalk before they'll come back to reality . right now there is a drunk homeless man lying across the apron of our parking lot driveway.

There are four vans lining the street and the men sleep in them at night. the way this depicted on the news is very different from reality.

yes Dr. Drew Pinsky can save some of them. But for what? jobs and housing that requires documents they don't have?

A mental hospital is really a residential hotel for people with chemical imbalances. It may seem humane to house and care for such people but here is a reality check;
if you are one paycheck away from the street, there is no safety net for you.

you are safe and accountable. You'll reach the street. But when get there, the other chemically imbalances ones will get more sympathy.
Those people will come first. With doctors, nurses, social workers, case workers & etc.

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Aug 31, 2019 08:37:23   #
Gatsby
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It was Reagan that closed mental institutions, and both sides allowed funding to lapse, virtually disappearing community mental health clinics. I grant that reforms were needed as many of those institutions were working the system instead of helping patients, but closing them was not the answer. True to the norm in this country, we wandered from one extreme to another.


President Reagan didn't close a single mental institution.
You may dispel your ignorance, if you wish.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/422/563.html

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Aug 31, 2019 08:41:50   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It was Reagan that closed mental institutions, and both sides allowed funding to lapse, virtually disappearing community mental health clinics. I grant that reforms were needed as many of those institutions were working the system instead of helping patients, but closing them was not the answer. True to the norm in this country, we wandered from one extreme to another.


Nope. All of this started with the illustrious Jimmy Carter. Please get your history correct.

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Aug 31, 2019 10:58:00   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals that have outpatient services to treat people before they abandon life to live on the streets. Plus, not all homeless people have mental disorders. Some are there to escape worse conditions at home. Some have fallen into hard times and still others are there because of events they could not foresee or tragedy like a sudden death of the primary bread earner. Under Obama the majority of people were one paycheck away from the streets. I think we need to address these people before we consider clothing, feeding, and housing illegals.
I think that we need more psychiatric hospitals th... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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