maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Are you saying that you understand throwing batteries at people? Soda cans full of urine? Soda cans full of cement? Rocks? Explosives? Carrying knives, clubs, and guns? Wearing masks to hide their identity? Pepper spray? Destroying private property? These are actions that antifa takes all the time.
All this and they call the right fascist.
So, I'd like to know what you understand about antifa. Name the fascists they are against and the actions that make them fascist.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

The author mentioned Charlottesville. The "white nationalists" you speak of had a permit to assemble that they had to file a lawsuit to obtain. Why? Because the city had a democratic government. The mayor ordered the police to arrange the barriers so that antifa and the marchers would come together, and that when they did, the police were told to stand down. The whole thing was set up by the democratic leaders of that city.
You know what? Even if the marchers were KKK or neo nazis, free speech and a permit says that they can march. I condemn the KKK and neonazis but not their right to free speech OR the right to assemble WITH A PERMIT.
Antifa had no permit.
When fascism broke out in Italy and spread through Europe, I can understand anti-fascism when fascism was real. None of those conditions exist today. Trump is not a dictator in any way. He is for free speech.There is far less control over industry than under Obama. And most obviously, Trump does not control opposition.
What does antifa want? To stop any speech that does not agree with their own. To give government complete control over industry. To stop opposition with violence so that people will be afraid to oppose them.
So...is my equivalence false? How can it be? There is NO fascism in our federal government. The actions of fascism lie with antifa.

Cuda2020

If I were you I would actually read my post, obviously, you didn't.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Go to Youtube and search for antifa. You'll get a zillion results. ALL of them show antifa's actions.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

I did read it and reread it. I got nothing different from the reread. You said their actions were "very understandable". What actions are you talking about?

Cuda2020

He tries to be a dictator constantly, he squashed new research reports from the EPA, his administration proposes to dramatically limit the right to demonstrate near the White House and on the National Mall, including in ways that would violate court orders that have stood for decades. Do you call that free speech?

What does Antifa want, I believe it's called justice. Justice for murdered black people at the hands of the police. Fascism didn't break out it was created and supported by their leader Mussolini.

For your information:
Benito Mussolini was Europe’s first 20th-century fascist dictator, and the word fascism comes from the far-right movement he led in Italy. Mussolini named the fasci di combattimento—paramilitary groups which were largely under his control and from which his movement derived its own name, fascismo—after the Latin word fasces, which was the bundle of wooden sticks topped with an axe-head that ancient Roman authority figures’ attendants would carry to distinguish their rank.

Cuda2020

Then you read that I do not condone violence and that I support our constitutional laws. When people are consistently and constantly NOT HEARD, people than riot to force their attention. To try and force a change that isn't happening. Yes, I understand those feelings. Understanding and condoning are two very different things.

GmanTerry

That is. a fact, young lady.

Semper Fi

debeda

Cuda2020

If you want to blame then let's spread it around, if you're going to bring up Benghazi, then let's bring up the falsehood of the entire war for eight years that killed and wounded how many? Mexico...I really wouldn't go there if I were you.

And spying on American's, tell me again who forced the Patriot Act on us? Yeah, that's all OK, right?

Now the president, who has a winery, decides to tax imported wine, no self-interest there ONCE AGAIN. How transparent does it have to get before you guys see????

acknowledgeurma

It's just the block where Trump Tower is located. Suggestion started as a joke.

acknowledgeurma

Did you not understand my example?

Trump (a right-wing person?) killing Jared Kushner (another right-wing person?) would be just "someone doing something ".

debeda

debeda

I was talking about your brush off of the lefty mass shooter in Dayton

acknowledgeurma

I didn't brush the Dayton shooter off.

See:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/16/mass-shooting-motives-what-if-we-never-learn-why/2000720001/
Wherein:
The alleged gunman who opened fire in an El Paso Walmart, Patrick Crusius, posted a hateful manifesto decrying what he called a “Hispanic invasion of Texas’’ and ranting against immigrants, so his motives, while contemptible, appear pretty clear.

So far that stands in contrast with Connor Betts, the shooting suspect in Dayton who was killed by police. There have been reports of misogynistic tendencies in his past and police said he had “a history of obsession with violent ideations,’’ but no specific reason for his assault has been pinpointed.

Similarly, attacks like last November’s shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California, where 12 died; the shooting spree at Santa Fe (Texas) High School in May 2018 that cost 10 lives; and, most notoriously, the Las Vegas rampage of October 2017 in which 58 were killed, have rendered investigators unable to specify a motive.
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Those of you who think CNN ignored Dayton shooting haven't been watching CNN. For a sample see:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/dayton-shooting-victims-funerals/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/us/dayton-shooter-sister-obituaries/index.html