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Aug 20, 2019 19:26:48   #
Cuda2020
 
Gatsby wrote:
The first step in "fixing" a problem, is "identifying" the problem.


Trust me, I've identified the problem.

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Aug 20, 2019 19:30:12   #
EmilyD
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I've never read those promises in the new green deal, I read about hopes and goals such as reversing inequality as we decarbonize, and we can lay the foundations for resilient, low-carbon high well-being economies, based on independent sources of energy supply, and add rich in fulfilling jobs where communities can thrive, never read about any guarantees, how can they?


Verbatim quotes from the Green New Deal (emphasis added by me):

Page 11 of the GND, under goals, Section (C): "providing resources, training and high quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States, with a focus on frontline and vulnerable communities, so that all people of the United States may be full and equal participants in the Green New Deal mobilization."

Page 12, Section (H): "guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations and retirement security to all people of the United States."

Page 13/14, Section (O): "providing all people of the United States with - (i) high quality health care, (ii) affordable, adequate safe housing, (iii) economic security and (iv) clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food and access to nature."

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

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Aug 20, 2019 19:35:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
This has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Have you seen the economic projections regarding the socialist democrat proposals?

Economic analysts have calculated the economic consequences of the proposals spewing from the mouths of the socialist democrat candidates. In the aggregate, to cover the cost of the massive giveaways--such as free healthcare and free education--the tax hikes alone would take at least 73% of taxable income. Put simply you would get a quarter and 2 cents from every dollar you earn. This would shut down thousands of small businesses and force corporations to make major cuts in their workforce and production.

Why even work if all you are doing is feeding the beast?

You're not looking at a recession, you are looking at the Great Depression on steroids.


Democrats Call for Trillion Dollar Tax Hike

Senate Democrats are proposing one trillion dollars in higher taxes over the next ten years including a nearly $600 billion income tax increase, a business tax increase, an increase to the death tax, and a capital gains tax increase.

These proposed tax increases would wipe out the benefits of tax reform, which include larger paychecks, salary bonuses, pay raises, increased employee retirement contributions, and utility rate cuts.

The Senate Democrat plan calls for raising the income tax rate to 39.6 percent and increasing the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) to pre TCJA levels, meaning millions of Americans would have to again pay this tax. According to 2015 IRS data, over 900,000 taxpayers in California and 500,000 taxpayers in New York paid the AMT prior to passage of the TCJA, which dramatically increased the threshold at which this tax applied.

Democrats also propose an $83 billion increase to the death tax. This tax increase would disproportionately fall on family-owned businesses and suppress jobs and wages. 76 percent of Americans support full, permanent repeal of the Death Tax, according to a poll by NPR.

In addition, the proposal calls for increasing the corporate tax to 25 percent. Including state corporate tax rates, this would cause the U.S. rate to rise to 29 percent, above the worldwide average rate of 23 percent and the industrial average of 24 percent.

Finally, Democrats propose a tax increase on carried interest capital gains. A carried interest capital gains tax increase would reduce investment and savings and damage economic growth at a time when the economy is beginning to grow at 3 percent or higher.

Democrats have claimed that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) passed by Republicans in December was irresponsible because it would increase the deficit. Now, they are proposing to undo these tax cuts to finance more wasteful spending, proving they are not truly concerned about the deficit.

Regardless, tax reform is working. The law has resulted in 90 percent of Americans receiving more money in their paycheck and has resulted in at least four million workers receiving bonuses. Millions more have received salary increases, increased retirement benefits, and lower utility costs. The Senate Democrat tax hike proposal would wipe out these benefits.

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Aug 20, 2019 20:31:13   #
debeda
 
Gatsby wrote:
When you educate an idiot, all that you get is an educated idiot!

The "squad" is a perfect example of that axiom.



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Aug 21, 2019 00:27:51   #
EmilyD
 
Crickets from barracuda ... not a surprise.

The first "version" said we should get rid of beef. (cows).

Thankfully, she did not target chickens...that would mean eggs and tenders.....NOPE. I'm going to keep eating chicken. Chicken farts are no where near as potent as cow farts....I vote for no more beef. Our atmosphere, our plants, our air and our depend on no more cow farts...time to get rid of cows, if I have to give up beef.

Chick fil a will agree with me :-D

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Aug 21, 2019 04:21:05   #
Gatsby
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Trust me, I've identified the problem.


You found a mirror, and looked into it?

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Aug 21, 2019 06:31:52   #
Rose42
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
That is malicious thinking and drenched in propaganda.


Not at all - simple truth. The democrat party of old is gone. So is the republican party

Barracuda2020 wrote:
And you Rose, are you bringing people up? I'm certainly not seeing it in any of your posts.


Right back atcha

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Aug 21, 2019 07:47:00   #
moldyoldy
 
EmilyD wrote:
Crickets from barracuda ... not a surprise.

The first "version" said we should get rid of beef. (cows).

Thankfully, she did not target chickens...that would mean eggs and tenders.....NOPE. I'm going to keep eating chicken. Chicken farts are no where near as potent as cow farts....I vote for no more beef. Our atmosphere, our plants, our air and our depend on no more cow farts...time to get rid of cows, if I have to give up beef.

Chick fil a will agree with me :-D


I love a good steak but we have to change our diets for our children to survive

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Aug 21, 2019 09:36:24   #
Rose42
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I love a good steak but we have to change our diets for our children to survive


That sir, is pure propaganda. Know how it originated? I'll bet you don't. It has nothing to do with science and everything to do with the animal rights movement. They want to 'liberate' all animals from humans and force everyone to be vegans.

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Aug 21, 2019 10:08:30   #
moldyoldy
 
Rose42 wrote:
That sir, is pure propaganda. Know how it originated? I'll bet you don't. It has nothing to do with science and everything to do with the animal rights movement. They want to 'liberate' all animals from humans and force everyone to be vegans.


Here is a right wing source.

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/456057-cows-carbon-and-climate-change

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Aug 21, 2019 10:46:55   #
EmilyD
 


The Hill....right wing???

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

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Aug 21, 2019 13:35:20   #
debeda
 
EmilyD wrote:


Lolololhahahaha

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Aug 21, 2019 14:12:22   #
Cuda2020
 
EmilyD wrote:
Verbatim quotes from the Green New Deal (emphasis added by me):

Page 11 of the GND, under goals, Section (C): "providing resources, training and high quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States, with a focus on frontline and vulnerable communities, so that all people of the United States may be full and equal participants in the Green New Deal mobilization."

Page 12, Section (H): "guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations and retirement security to all people of the United States."

Page 13/14, Section (O): "providing all people of the United States with - (i) high quality health care, (ii) affordable, adequate safe housing, (iii) economic security and (iv) clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food and access to nature."

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution
Verbatim quotes from the Green New Deal (emphasis ... (show quote)


You do realize this is just another proposal, correct? There isn’t just one Green New Deal yet. For now, it’s a platform position that some candidates are taking to indicate that they want the American government to devote the country to preparing for climate change and reinvigorating the economy. So don't get your panties in a bunch, there's still time for that.

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Aug 21, 2019 14:13:46   #
Cuda2020
 
Rose42 wrote:
Right back atcha


original

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Aug 21, 2019 14:15:19   #
Cuda2020
 
Gatsby wrote:
You found a mirror, and looked into it?


Oh, are we doing I'm rubber and you're glue now too?

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