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My views are not quaint, unusual, nor merely MY views. They are the views of many people, including many blacks. You may want to read a post of mine, http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-12968-1.html

The article was written by a black man. Here is one of his quotes:
"You would have to absolutely loathe black people to want to keep them mired in generational poverty and ignorance, living in ghettos with high unemployment, with their kids shackled to failing K-12 urban school systems and crime-ridden neighborhoods just to secure a permanent voting majority and to hang onto political power.

This is borderline sociopathic behavior.

Black people are survivors. We have survived slavery, Jim Crow laws and other forms of discrimination. We can overcome the burden of liberal policies if they just leave us alone to get out of this predicament by ourselves.

I find it insulting that liberals view us in such an infantile manner, implying that we cannot make it without their help.

Once we free our minds of this debilitating government dependency and liberals get their boot off our necks, we can begin to rebuild our community."

Another black man, Larry Elder, said, "America traditionally represents the greatest possibility of someone's going from nothing to something. Why? In theory, if not practice, the government stays out of the way and lets individuals take risks and reap rewards or accept the consequences of failure. We call this capitalism - or, at least, we used to."

You might also want to read some of Thomas Sowell's articles, and see how conservative blacks perceive the things YOU embrace. Liberals, such as yourself, have your mind set that all the "help" you insist the rest of us give to blacks is compassionate. No conservative thinks like that, including black conservatives. All conservatives believe these programs do far more harm than good. But I suppose your concern doesn't also cover conservative blacks, only the liberal ones. Now THAT is compassion!!! Ah, yes, the democrats belittle conservative blacks for being so stupid as to be manhandled by conservative whites, and liberal blacks call them Uncle Toms. Yes, the party of the progressives is compassionate all right! Compassionate like Hitler.

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Everyone today believes that slavery was horrid, terrible that blacks were treated as they were, were not considered full persons, and everyone today is glad it is gone, glad blacks have the same rights as whites.

Rule No. 18: The worst racists are liberals, mostly white ones, who assume that blacks and Hispanics are so inferior that only affirmative action in perpetuity would give them a remotely fair chance.
This is how sometimes a possibly good idea becomes a horrid idea. Problem is that the political left is incapable of seeing the harm they often do, all in the name of compassion. I think set asides are as insulting as hell - and I wouldn't put myself in that position. My dad was as poor as they come, but he would have died before taking a handout or being treated as special because he NEEDED help. I know how he thought, and he was determined about it. I have no reason to think black people think any differently. But YOU think all blacks think like you and should be treated as such.

An affirmative action hiree can never, ever claim he did well because he was a valuable employee. He will always remember that whites thought him incapable of getting ahead without special treatment, and that special treatment branded him "one who had to be helped because on his own worth, he couldn't make it". And it is the same thinking that goes into special privileges of all sorts that the political left comes up with. There is NOTHING the Democrat Party has done well except WWII, and if we fought such a war today, Democrats would call us cruel and heartless. Democrats of today would vote for John Kennedy because he was a democrat, but they would despise his thinking because he believed in a strong America.

You can cite all you want, opinions don't mean diddly. What is important are the facts, and you cannot deny the fact that things are worse in this country than they ever have been in our lifetimes - and it is because of the way Democrats use politics and the fact that Republican politicians roll over and play dead as a result of the treatments they get from Democrats.

The Right’s 20 Rules of Racism. Taken from Tom Kratman’s website at http://www.tomkratman.com/Right20rules.html.

I'm only going to talk about rule 18 and rule 8.

Rule No. 18: The worst racists are liberals, mostly white ones, who assume that blacks and Hispanics are so inferior that only affirmative action in perpetuity would give them a remotely fair chance.

What does it say to a black or Hispanic that he/she is too stupid to compete with whites? That’s what affirmative action implies. That’s what lowering standards imply. It doesn’t happen with Asians. In fact they do better than whites. Many of them come to this country with nothing and within a generation, they do better than people born here.

Look at our current president. What has he actually accomplished in his life? Editor of the Harvard Law Review? He was the first editor of this publication who never wrote a piece for it. Never!

We don’t know what kind of grades he received because he won’t release his college transcripts. What is he hiding? The LSM propaganda arm of the Democrat Party is always extolling his intelligence. He’s the “smartest man in the room”. Where’s the proof?

He “wrote” two autobiographies. Nope. They were actually written by someone else, probably his terrorist buddy William Ayers.

He didn’t write any legislation while a state senator or a US senator. He won his state senate seat by having his opponents disqualified. When running for the US Senate, his opponent’s sealed divorce records were somehow unsealed and his opponent dropped out of the race. How come it’s always a Republican’s sealed records which are made public? It never seems to happen to a Democrat. Funny how that works.

He got elected president due to overwhelming black support, white guilt, and brainwashed youth who thought it would be neat to have a black president. Dear kids, you’re gonna be the ones who will suffer the most with what Obungler has done to this country. Your Social Security will not be as good as mine. Healthcare will get more expensive and the quality will drop because of Obummercare. With the debt this country is running up, your standard of living will not be as good as my generations. But you did elect the first black president. Suckers!

Then in his reelection campaign, with the worst recovery from a recession in my lifetime, the Stupid Party ran the only Republican who couldn’t run against Obummercare. Since blacks are held to lower standards than whites, he was able to get reelected, though he didn’t get as many votes as he got in the first election. Some people wised up. Blacks didn’t, even though they were better off during the administrations of Reagan and both Bushes. Skin color trumps reality. Suckers!

His only skill is being able to read words off a TelePrompTer written by others. He is our first affirmative action president and as has happened so often in business affirmative action met the Peter Principle. His foreign policy is a joke. The economy is stuck in the doldrums. He has to keep delaying the implementation of Obummercare. The employer mandate has been pushed back until after the 2014 elections. The only reason unemployment is dropping is people are giving up looking for jobs. Obummercare has caused many full time jobs to become part time jobs. Obumbler has become the black Jimmah Carter.

Of course, they no longer call it affirmative action any more since it led to the hiring and promoting of unqualified people. I saw it a lot in the aerospace industry. Whatever to do? Rebranding. That usually works and that’s what they did. Affirmative action has been renamed Diversity (All Hail Diversity!) Of course, they threw some crumbs to Hispanics, women, gays, and cripples (No Asians. They don’t need it.) to make it look good, but it’s just repackaged affirmative action. Want proof? Look at the person responsible for Diversity (All Hail Diversity!) at your company. Dollars to donuts it will be a black person.

Rule: 8: It’s not racist to note that white liberalism managed to do in about thirty years something that three hundred years of slavery could not, seriously damage the black family, generally though not universally, and ruin it completely over wide swaths.

Yep! If the KKK (the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party) wanted to destroy the black family, what would they have done differently than the Democrat Party? What’s more, they got the useful idiots in the Congressional Black Caucus to buy into these destructive policies. LBJ was a genius. He said about welfare, “the ni__ers would vote Democrat for the next 200 years”.

Amazing!

Never thought your views were quaint, unusual, or unique. In fact, I respect the clarity and forthrightness with which you express the conservative viewpoint. That being said....

No matter the color of the conservative, they usually build a straw-man argument when it comes to affirmative action. The laws and regulations are not about handouts and special treatment. They are about discrimination and how to end it. The 'handout' interpretation is a myth conservatives tell themselves so that they do not have to confront the history of discrimination in employment, legal rights, etc., that necessitated the passage of these laws and regulations in the first place.

And that is the nub of the matter. We will never come to terms with affirmative action and it's results until we have an honest accounting of it's institutionalization. I can see why an argument might be made that it's time, after more than a half-century, to revisit the policy and debate it's effects, but your inability to see what caused the need for these policies to be enacted precludes that.

And the Hitler reference is a refuge for scoundrels and ideologues.

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My views are not quaint, unusual, nor merely MY views. They are the views of many people, including many blacks. You may want to read a post of mine, http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-12968-1.html

The article was written by a black man. Here is one of his quotes:
"You would have to absolutely loathe black people to want to keep them mired in generational poverty and ignorance, living in ghettos with high unemployment, with their kids shackled to failing K-12 urban school systems and crime-ridden neighborhoods just to secure a permanent voting majority and to hang onto political power.

This is borderline sociopathic behavior.

Black people are survivors. We have survived slavery, Jim Crow laws and other forms of discrimination. We can overcome the burden of liberal policies if they just leave us alone to get out of this predicament by ourselves.

I find it insulting that liberals view us in such an infantile manner, implying that we cannot make it without their help.

Once we free our minds of this debilitating government dependency and liberals get their boot off our necks, we can begin to rebuild our community."

Another black man, Larry Elder, said, "America traditionally represents the greatest possibility of someone's going from nothing to something. Why? In theory, if not practice, the government stays out of the way and lets individuals take risks and reap rewards or accept the consequences of failure. We call this capitalism - or, at least, we used to."

You might also want to read some of Thomas Sowell's articles, and see how conservative blacks perceive the things YOU embrace. Liberals, such as yourself, have your mind set that all the "help" you insist the rest of us give to blacks is compassionate. No conservative thinks like that, including black conservatives. All conservatives believe these programs do far more harm than good. But I suppose your concern doesn't also cover conservative blacks, only the liberal ones. Now THAT is compassion!!! Ah, yes, the democrats belittle conservative blacks for being so stupid as to be manhandled by conservative whites, and liberal blacks call them Uncle Toms. Yes, the party of the progressives is compassionate all right! Compassionate like Hitler.

The Right’s 20 Rules of Racism. Taken from Tom Kratman’s website at http://www.tomkratman.com/Right20rules.html.

I'm only going to talk about rule 18 and rule 8.

Rule No. 18: The worst racists are liberals, mostly white ones, who assume that blacks and Hispanics are so inferior that only affirmative action in perpetuity would give them a remotely fair chance.

What does it say to a black or Hispanic that he/she is too stupid to compete with whites? That’s what affirmative action implies. That’s what lowering standards imply. It doesn’t happen with Asians. In fact they do better than whites. Many of them come to this country with nothing and within a generation, they do better than people born here.

Look at our current president. What has he actually accomplished in his life? Editor of the Harvard Law Review? He was the first editor of this publication who never wrote a piece for it. Never!

We don’t know what kind of grades he received because he won’t release his college transcripts. What is he hiding? The LSM propaganda arm of the Democrat Party is always extolling his intelligence. He’s the “smartest man in the room”. Where’s the proof?

He “wrote” two autobiographies. Nope. They were actually written by someone else, probably his terrorist buddy William Ayers.

He didn’t write any legislation while a state senator or a US senator. He won his state senate seat by having his opponents disqualified. When running for the US Senate, his opponent’s sealed divorce records were somehow unsealed and his opponent dropped out of the race. How come it’s always a Republican’s sealed records which are made public? It never seems to happen to a Democrat. Funny how that works.

He got elected president due to overwhelming black support, white guilt, and brainwashed youth who thought it would be neat to have a black president. Dear kids, you’re gonna be the ones who will suffer the most with what Obungler has done to this country. Your Social Security will not be as good as mine. Healthcare will get more expensive and the quality will drop because of Obummercare. With the debt this country is running up, your standard of living will not be as good as my generations. But you did elect the first black president. Suckers!

Then in his reelection campaign, with the worst recovery from a recession in my lifetime, the Stupid Party ran the only Republican who couldn’t run against Obummercare. Since blacks are held to lower standards than whites, he was able to get reelected, though he didn’t get as many votes as he got in the first election. Some people wised up. Blacks didn’t, even though they were better off during the administrations of Reagan and both Bushes. Skin color trumps reality. Suckers!

His only skill is being able to read words off a TelePrompTer written by others. He is our first affirmative action president and as has happened so often in business affirmative action met the Peter Principle. His foreign policy is a joke. The economy is stuck in the doldrums. He has to keep delaying the implementation of Obummercare. The employer mandate has been pushed back until after the 2014 elections. The only reason unemployment is dropping is people are giving up looking for jobs. Obummercare has caused many full time jobs to become part time jobs. Obumbler has become the black Jimmah Carter.

Of course, they no longer call it affirmative action any more since it led to the hiring and promoting of unqualified people. I saw it a lot in the aerospace industry. Whatever to do? Rebranding. That usually works and that’s what they did. Affirmative action has been renamed Diversity (All Hail Diversity!) Of course, they threw some crumbs to Hispanics, women, gays, and cripples (No Asians. They don’t need it.) to make it look good, but it’s just repackaged affirmative action. Want proof? Look at the person responsible for Diversity (All Hail Diversity!) at your company. Dollars to donuts it will be a black person.

Rule: 8: It’s not racist to note that white liberalism managed to do in about thirty years something that three hundred years of slavery could not, seriously damage the black family, generally though not universally, and ruin it completely over wide swaths.

Yep! If the KKK (the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party) wanted to destroy the black family, what would they have done differently than the Democrat Party? What’s more, they got the useful idiots in the Congressional Black Caucus to buy into these destructive policies. LBJ was a genius. He said about welfare, “the ni__ers would vote Democrat for the next 200 years”.

Amazing!