The cover of Newsweek
Aug 6, 2019 19:12:38 #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Where does it enumerate charity and healthcare from the federal government?
Well gee, it's an outline. It leaves it to Congress and the President to fill in the details.
Aug 6, 2019 19:21:46 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
acknowledgeurma wrote:
What are you some kind of socialist who wants the government to regulate prices?
What has ruffled your feathers? Don't be ludicrous. How do you make the leap to thinking I might be some kind of socialist? What I am saying is that in the absence of a system of completely free enterprise, we instead have crony capitalism. Examples abound. The government regulates all kinds of things, more things than it should. But at the same time, some regulation is necessary to prevent abuses because we do not have a perfectly free market. What is your point? Or are you just having a disagreeable day?
Aug 6, 2019 19:23:52 #
dtucker300 wrote:
Yes, it covers quite a bit. br Taxation br Spend... (show quote)
It doesn't cover Santa Claus
Aug 6, 2019 19:36:36 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Well gee, it's an outline. It leaves it to Congress and the President to fill in the details.
But it doesn't cover healthcare. SCOTUS accepted the ACA as Constitutional because it was a tax that required everyone to have it or pay a penalty. Once that issue was eliminated it was no longer a tax and whole or part can be discarded because it isn't a constitutional right to have or provide healthcare.
Aug 6, 2019 19:50:05 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
flash wrote:
It doesn't cover Santa Claus
Excellent point. But don't tell the snowflakes. It would send them into a conniption fit. IT almost sent them over the edge when they found out the Easter bunny isn't real.
Aug 6, 2019 19:58:53 #
dtucker300 wrote:
How did you make a leap to that conclusion about n... (show quote)
"There will always be poor among us"? So you are quoting Jesus from John 12:8? If some nameless one called me a Demonrat and I only replied, "Sticks and stones", you would understand that this was just the beginning of the common saying that ends with "words will never hurt me". Jesus was well versed and most likely used beginnings of verses to refer to the whole. In the case of John 12:8, Jesus most likely referred to: " For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land." (Deut 15:11)
See:
https://www.craiggreenfield.com/blog/thepooryouwillalwayshave
Aug 6, 2019 20:09:53 #
dtucker300 wrote:
It is very difficult to accumulate any wealth if you are not earning money and fail to save or invest. A distinct disadvantage. But opportunity is there and that is why we attract so many immigrants. However, the income brackets are not static, People move up and down them throughout their lives.
On the contrary, it is very easy for wealth to generate wealth in a capitalist system.
Aug 6, 2019 20:26:10 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
acknowledgeurma wrote:
"There will always be poor among us"? So... (show quote)
And that is what we do. Americans are more charitable than any other nation. But it should be our choice and not compelled by the government. It is also more effective and efficient that way.
Aug 6, 2019 20:27:27 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
acknowledgeurma wrote:
On the contrary, it is very easy for wealth to generate wealth in a capitalist system.
On the contrary to what?
Wealth to generate wealth! There a novel idea. I wonder why I never thought of that?
Aug 6, 2019 20:33:54 #
dtucker300 wrote:
Yes, it covers quite a bit. br Taxation br Spend... (show quote)
I won't be put to task.
Charity?
Healthcare?
Not enumerated in the constitution.
Aug 6, 2019 20:34:00 #
dtucker300 wrote:
Excellent point. But don't tell the snowflakes. It would send them into a conniption fit. IT almost sent them over the edge when they found out the Easter bunny isn't real.
No Easter Bunny? What keeps em hoppin.
Aug 6, 2019 20:41:11 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
acknowledgeurma wrote:
So no foreign tourists without a personal invitation?
Wouldn't you say a tourist visa is a personal invitation? I would. But don't overstay your welcome unless you properly apply for an extension.
You really like to be contrary, don't you? They say no question is stupid if it is sincere. I would say sincerity is the most important thing. Once you learn to fake that you've got it made. You wouldn't be faking it, would you?
Aug 6, 2019 20:44:48 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I won't be put to task.
Charity?
Healthcare?
Not enumerated in the constitution.
Charity?
Healthcare?
Not enumerated in the constitution.
Are you confusing me and my postings with someone else?
Aug 6, 2019 21:41:15 #
dtucker300 wrote:
...there are too many these days who think the people are here to serve the government or they are trying to make it that way.
Yes, I would be happy to see fewer people serving in militaries.
dtucker300 wrote:
You sound like you come from a place where the government thinks and acts as though it owns everything and the rest of us are here to serve the government (That vaguely sounds like the utopian dream the progressives and socialist have for America).
It probably sounds vague because you are not listening to most progressives and socialists.
dtucker300 wrote:
Your capital is your investment of what you earned so you are entitled. You are reaping the fruit of others labor by investing in their labor. You're not ripping them off. Both parties entered freely into a mutual agreement.
Is an inheritance "earned". Believe it or not, I've heard people argue that chattel slavery in the South was better than the wage slavery of the North.
Just because someone "agrees" to an exchange, does not mean that they are not being ripped off.dtucker300 wrote:
I'm not ay all arguing for no taxes. That would be impossible.
I'm sure an anthropologist could tell you about cultures that did not have taxes (perhaps plains tribal cultures).
dtucker300 wrote:
Yes, of course, there is free stuff. But it still isn't free.
What are you, a Zen master? Of course you are free, but you are a slave.
dtucker300 wrote:
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't be ridiculous!
Not only are there free lunches, but there are also free dinners. All I have to do is show up to a restaurant where some guy sparbles investment advice while I eat and daydream about free food.
dtucker300 wrote:
What got you feathers ruffled?
Apparently, you've mistaken me for a bird
Aug 6, 2019 21:58:10 #
dtucker300 wrote:
What has ruffled your feathers? Don't be ludicrou... (show quote)
Still mistaking me for a bird? Tsk, tsk. How did I make the leap? Almost anytime someone suggests that there should be some sort of government regulation, someone on OPP will call them a socialist or a commie. I was just seeing if I could join in that fun(?).
[Probably more suitable for a separate thread, but...]
What would a "system of completely free enterprise" and a "perfectly free market" look like?
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