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Aug 5, 2019 20:43:53   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
We are all sickened by what happened. The father of lies is working hard and there is only one way this can all be stopped.


I have not slept past 6:30 am in I don't know how long; I woke up at 9:15 am today. I was exceedingly tired, it appears. The carnage and frustration of these weekend mass murders upset me more than I realized. But I also woke up afraid that I may have said some bad things to Conservatives and about Trump in my anger and grief. Don't want to verify if I did right now. Sick over the possibility whether I actually did so or not.

Gun-control is a very touchy subject and I really do not want to demean Pro Gun people. I disagree but thoroughly understand their pov, and it has its proper place on the issue.

That among almost all industrialized, or First World Nations, we are by far the most violent, sickeningly so. Asking "why?" and "what to do?" makes my hair ache. My daughter moved to Poland just for this reason. My two grandchildren are not a drive away...but far safer. And that is a terrible testimony about our country.

One solution, like Trump's, is to detain the mentally ill believed dangerous. My naive response to that is greater care, attention, and professional help for all our fellow Americans marginalized by an assortment of factors. Fear drives us to be retributive because it gives a sense of control and action taken. We are doing something and something that can be measurable. But the difficult and best solution is greater compassion and love. We need Restorative Justice, something that our usual psyche finds anathema.

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Aug 5, 2019 20:50:52   #
rumitoid
 
woodguru wrote:
You need to stop and think about what you are saying...Trump should have been removed within months for the number of his people involved with Russia that lied about it... Will we be glad when he's gone? Hell yes

Glad about white supremacist violence...? No, that is a ridiculous statement.


I will not be glad if Trump is gone. Not because Pence is far worse but we need to see if the Right is, well, right. Give them eight years, I say, re-elect Trump and brace for the ride. I see an enormous "I told you so" down the line, yet I do pray I am wrong.

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Aug 5, 2019 21:25:18   #
Tug484
 
proud republican wrote:
As horrible as it sounds,i think they are...because in their minds it shows how evil President Trump is and in the words of Kevyn needs to be removed...This is just mine opinion...


I certainly agree with your thought.

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Aug 5, 2019 21:28:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
You need to stop and think about what you are saying...Trump should have been removed within months for the number of his people involved with Russia that lied about it... Will we be glad when he's gone? Hell yes

Glad about white supremacist violence...? No, that is a ridiculous statement.







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Aug 5, 2019 23:14:03   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
I will not be glad if Trump is gone. Not because Pence is far worse but we need to see if the Right is, well, right. Give them eight years, I say, re-elect Trump and brace for the ride. I see an enormous "I told you so" down the line, yet I do pray I am wrong.


Rhumy has changed. Hmm? Who are you really and who were you before you took the name rumitoid??

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Aug 5, 2019 23:45:32   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
proud republican wrote:
As horrible as it sounds,i think they are...because in their minds it shows how evil President Trump is and in the words of Kevyn needs to be removed...This is just mine opinion...


The Dems in Washington dont care about these victims..They dont care about any victims, no matter whom they are. They are all collateral damage for their freakin political agenda.

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Aug 5, 2019 23:47:14   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Kevyn wrote:
No one with an ounce of humanity is happy about these assault weapon terrorist attacks. They are unspeakable. Trump is a traitorous, racist criminal who should never have been in office. He should have been brought to justice years ago but used his money and white privilege to avoid consequences for his actions. He is a cancer eating our nation from the inside out and needs to go as soon as possible.


Once again...shut up...go to bed!

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Aug 5, 2019 23:54:45   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
proud republican wrote:
As horrible as it sounds,i think they are...because in their minds it shows how evil President Trump is and in the words of Kevyn needs to be removed...This is just mine opinion...


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Dear Paranoid Re-puke-I-can,

While we “liberals” (BTW, I’m a registered Republican) openly distain Trump and anyone who actively supports him and sticks-up for him, even though what he’s said has been proven to be lies, misogynistic, racist, or just plain un-American (even by your standards had his words been spoken by a Democrat or other liberal; an example being: claiming the “... Main Stream Media is an enemy of the country.”), you and your troops don’t give a damn about people seeking a better life in the US.

This same goes to those who support his inhuman treatment of immigrants, in direct violation of current US immigration laws. This includes keeping people caged-up beyond the statutory limits. Separating children from their parents when the parents don’t meet the legsl criteria to justify their separation from their children. Limiting access to basic necessities for proper hygiene. Limiting access to even minimal medical care.

Instead of constantly whining and crying about how much the liberals and Dems don’t like Trump, ask your fellow GOPTPers why they haven’t moved off their lazy asses and, at a minimum, brought-up the House-passed bills that would help elegiste some of the problems we face?

Ask Moscow Mitch why he’s not allowed a single House bill relating to voting security even a debate in his GOPTP-controlled Senate. He knows that the Russians will interfere with the elections in 2020. He’ll, he even allowed a cronie of Putin’s to “invest” $400,000,000.00 for a 40% stake in the new aluminum mill being built in - of all places - Kentucky.

To say Moscow Mitch is a crook and is in cahoots with Trump’s efforts to, again, use Russia’s help toward getting re-elected, is a severe understatement. I know of which I speak, too. I lived in Western Kentucky for several years. I got to see just how partisan and sectional Moscow Mitch really is. At the time, I worked for a federal agency in its Economic Development Section, working out of Paducah, KY. I had to travel to DC to ask Mr Moscow for his assistance on a project that would greatly benefit the citizens of the Purchase Area of Kentucky. His chief of staff asked me what political party I was affiliated with. How I answered would help determine how long I’d have to wait to see Mr Moscow. He, then, asked me if I’d care to make a donation the Mr Moscow’s re-election campaign.

I responded that my political affiliation was “...strictly my business,” and “No, I [didn’t] care to donate to the re-election campaign.” That “...my business is on behalf of the federal government and relates to a project to help his constituents and had nothing to do with politics.” 4 hours later, just before it was closing time, I was given 10 minutes with Mr. Moscow. After explaining the purpose of my visit and showing him the benefits of the project, he said that he’s “... extremely suspicious of anything that comes from...,” the agency I worked for. Then, he said he’s not at all interested in giving me his approval. I reiterated the fact that this wasn’t anything that would have a negative consequence. In fact, my agency would be providing over $1,750,000 into the project and the state and local governments said “...together, they’d spring for the remaining $1,250,000.” Mr Moscow still said “No.”

As I was leaving, his chief of staff said, in a low voice, “Things would’ve gone a lot differently had you told us who’s side you’re on and had you made a donation.” I replied, “Your playing politics just lost Western Kentucky the chance to land a large automobile manufacturing company moving its national headquarters from California to the Purchase Area. The company decided to locate in Middle Tennessee, instead.

So, please, tell me who puts party before country. If the current Majority Leader of the Senate won’t put his constituents first, don’t try to fool me and the rest of us into believing it’s the Dems who don’t care about shooting victims. Several bi-partisan, gun safety bills have sat on Mr Moscow’s desk for quite a while, now. I suppose you’ll want to excuse him because he just recently fell and broke his shoulder.

I try not to wish bodily harm on others, but in Moscow Mitch’s case, I’ll make an exception. Maybe God was just trying to get Mr Moscow’s attention; that breaking his shoulder was just a warning to him to start working for the country, not for just himself and his political party. Maybe, the next time Mr Moscow falls, it will be his neck that gets broken. One can only hope.

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Aug 6, 2019 01:46:16   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Beto sure seems to like it! He had a big old grin on his face when approached about it, which he quickly wiped off his face!


I picked up on the exact same thing when the Sunday morning news programs talked to him in El Paso.

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Aug 6, 2019 01:51:52   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
I have not slept past 6:30 am in I don't know how long; I woke up at 9:15 am today. I was exceedingly tired, it appears. The carnage and frustration of these weekend mass murders upset me more than I realized. But I also woke up afraid that I may have said some bad things to Conservatives and about Trump in my anger and grief. Don't want to verify if I did right now. Sick over the possibility whether I actually did so or not.

Gun-control is a very touchy subject and I really do not want to demean Pro Gun people. I disagree but thoroughly understand their pov, and it has its proper place on the issue.

That among almost all industrialized, or First World Nations, we are by far the most violent, sickeningly so. Asking "why?" and "what to do?" makes my hair ache. My daughter moved to Poland just for this reason. My two grandchildren are not a drive away...but far safer. And that is a terrible testimony about our country.

One solution, like Trump's, is to detain the mentally ill believed dangerous. My naive response to that is greater care, attention, and professional help for all our fellow Americans marginalized by an assortment of factors. Fear drives us to be retributive because it gives a sense of control and action taken. We are doing something and something that can be measurable. But the difficult and best solution is greater compassion and love. We need Restorative Justice, something that our usual psyche finds anathema.
I have not slept past 6:30 am in I don't know how ... (show quote)


Your friends will understand. And those who don't...who cares! Life goes on.

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Aug 6, 2019 02:02:09   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
As horrible as it sounds,i think they are...because in their minds it shows how evil President Trump is and in the words of Kevyn needs to be removed...This is just mine opinion...


Nothing thrills me more than a dead innocent, Killed by the Right's extreme reluctance for decent gun-control. What a disgusting thing to say, pr, for political points. Have you any clue what u r saying? It is utterly despicable and totally unwarranted. I could say the same of the Right who persistently reject or ignore gun violence, counting their cash in pocket from the NRA. Maybe they are happy about a few more brown dead to get the message. I do not believe that a person could accuse anyone on the Left of reveling in innocent death; that has to be the lowest anyone has gone for political gain here or anywhere. But it happened!

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Aug 6, 2019 02:04:05   #
carlajones
 
Kevyn wrote:
No one with an ounce of humanity is happy about these assault weapon terrorist attacks. They are unspeakable. Trump is a traitorous, racist criminal who should never have been in office. He should have been brought to justice years ago but used his money and white privilege to avoid consequences for his actions. He is a cancer eating our nation from the inside out and needs to go as soon as possible.
How Dumb are you Demoncrap ? Trump is none of those things. You Demoncraps need to leave America to a already socialist country of your choice because America will never be one. You are evil demon Posessed it's ! Everything that is filthy, vile, wrong you want Americans to accept but we never will. Why are you still in a country that demands freedoms not dictatorship ?

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Aug 6, 2019 02:16:39   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nothing thrills me more than a dead innocent, Killed by the Right's extreme reluctance for decent gun-control. What a disgusting thing to say, pr, for political points. Have you any clue what u r saying? It is utterly despicable and totally unwarranted. I could say the same of the Right who persistently reject or ignore gun violence, counting their cash in pocket from the NRA. Maybe they are happy about a few more brown dead to get the message. I do not believe that a person could accuse anyone on the Left of reveling in innocent death; that has to be the lowest anyone has gone for political gain here or anywhere. But it happened!
Nothing thrills me more than a dead innocent, Kill... (show quote)


Interesting, blacks have been killing blacks in record numbers for years in Chicago and Baltimore and now it's all Trumps and the GOP 's fault? Who is really the party of racist and hate? Who controls the education system and teacher's union? Who has controlled these cities for decades? Which party removed God from it's platform and then cheered after three voice votes? You reap what you sow.

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Aug 6, 2019 03:36:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nothing thrills me more than a dead innocent, Killed by the Right's extreme reluctance for decent gun-control. What a disgusting thing to say, pr, for political points. Have you any clue what u r saying? It is utterly despicable and totally unwarranted. I could say the same of the Right who persistently reject or ignore gun violence, counting their cash in pocket from the NRA. Maybe they are happy about a few more brown dead to get the message. I do not believe that a person could accuse anyone on the Left of reveling in innocent death; that has to be the lowest anyone has gone for political gain here or anywhere. But it happened!
Nothing thrills me more than a dead innocent, Kill... (show quote)
You really need to back off. You freak out and throw out of control, irrational tantrums.

PR asked a question.

"Are some Democrats secretly happy about shootings this weekend???"

She didn't say, "Democrats ARE secretly happy about the shootings this weekend?"

Your outrageous accusations that these victims were
"Killed by the Right's extreme reluctance for decent gun-control", and,
"the Right who persistently reject or ignore gun violence, counting their cash in pocket from the NRA", and, "Maybe they are happy about a few more brown dead to get the message", and,
implying that WE are "reveling in innocent death".

These accusations are "utterly despicable and totally unwarranted."
These utterly false accusations demand an apology. I won't hold my breath.

So, let's unpack the question: "Are some Democrats secretly happy about shootings this weekend???"

Personally, I don't believe democrats are happy about anything--you're a good example--but they certainly have no problem politicizing a tragedy and exploiting the victims to advance their agenda. Within minutes of a mass shooting, the progs grab the microphones, go to their podiums, go on TV, and once again we hear the screams: "Gun control" - "Gun control" - "Gun control".

The progs don't offer condolences, they don't send flowers to the families, they don't visit with them, and they definitely won't say a prayer for God's mercy and guidance. The dead are not yet buried when the progs rise up and attack and attack and attack - "Gun control" - "Gun control" - "Gun control".

More than sufficient gun laws are already on the books that control the who, where, when, how and why American citizens can or cannot possess guns. The problem, and it is a big one, is the miserable lack of enforcement of existing gun laws and the low percentages in successful prosecution of offenders. The records are dismal to say the least.

Obviously, you are not aware that in most, if not all, BLUE cities, counties, and states, so many gun control laws have been established--restrictive, prohibitive, bureaucratic red tape laws--that they are in conflict with each other, many contradict others, some are simply unenforceable. In any given case, police officers, attorneys, and judges are constantly at odds trying to figure out which ones apply and which ones don't.

Take Chicago for example: Hey, Jackass!

Once again, your accusations, your unhinged blame game, is really really totally an appalling insult to millions of decent, law abiding Americans who own GUNS.

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Aug 6, 2019 03:55:58   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
woodguru wrote:
You don't have a clue what socialism is except the right wing rhetorical way it's being used


I live in the Socialist state call taxachusetts and it's nearly impossible to live here if you're a working class person. I paid my health care premiums and in the end of the month I don't have enough money to buy food. I told my wife and daughter if you want to eat you have to buy your own food. I paid the base camp bills which includes subsidized Healthcare subsidized electric bills and gas so don't give me any of your cheap shit. You must be on MassHealth and you get all your stuff for free. You're probably in love with Elizabeth Warren. Yuck!

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